11:42:34 darkhappyman: Cheapest conversions are stablecoin to xmr or ltc to xmr ?
11:43:06 imprevisto:matrix.org: cheapest are to me
14:37:02 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/fIIAgLtTCtxotWFXOtKQPqpY.png (1000159980.png)
14:42:50 kaigoh:gohegan.uk: @bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Time to make Linux on phone usable then
14:43:34 gan:skhron.org: I daily-drive pmOS with OP6 normally
14:43:38 gan:skhron.org: pretty usable to me
14:43:59 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: How ?
14:45:21 BlueyHealer: gan, NICE
14:45:34 BlueyHealer: How's the battery life?
14:46:39 BlueyHealer: Also, I don't think Graphene or Lineage would be doing this. Like, it's way too big and complex of a thing to Jia Tan in. I'd suspect it would be either the communications app, or Google Services.
14:49:13 gan:skhron.org: BlueyHealer: it lasts only a day sadly at most, I use stuff like maps, occasionally look into matrix with nheko and often have waydroid running in the background
14:49:42 gan:skhron.org: Contextually, GSM-related functionality is meh
14:49:49 BlueyHealer: Like?
14:50:23 BlueyHealer: Also, why is Waydroid in tha background? And how different is the battery without such?
14:50:24 gan:skhron.org: it's possible to send and receive SMS, but calls themselves are very flaky
14:50:30 BlueyHealer: ah
14:50:42 BlueyHealer: And the cellular internet?
14:50:49 gan:skhron.org: BlueyHealer: I still have to use the banking apps from time to time
14:50:58 BlueyHealer: ah
14:51:07 BlueyHealer: Why does it have to constantly stay on then?
14:51:10 gan:skhron.org: BlueyHealer: Mobile data works perfectly in my experience
14:51:34 BlueyHealer: Also, nice to know they work on Waydroid! Heard of some refusing to work even on just degoogled Android
14:51:38 BlueyHealer: Oh, neat!
14:52:07 gan:skhron.org: BlueyHealer: I think it gets frozen, sadly the chip in op6 doesn't have a true suspend mode
14:52:30 gan:skhron.org: BlueyHealer: That's true, but the banks that I use work just normally
14:53:27 BlueyHealer: I wonder if you can have notifications. Ntfy is available on desktop but desktop apps don't have UnifiedPush, so idk if you can set something like this up.
14:55:31 gan:skhron.org: To note, it doesn't need to, but it'd be annoying to start up the lineageOS every time when you'd want to use an app > <BlueyHealer> Why does it have to constantly stay on then?
14:56:25 gan:skhron.org: I forgot to mention that obviously camera support is in its initial stages, that'll be a deal breaker for a lot of people, I reckon
14:57:58 BlueyHealer: To note, it doesn't need to, but it'd be annoying to start up the lineageOS every time when you'd want to use an app <- Does it take long to start up?
14:58:22 gan:skhron.org: ~6 seconds
14:58:46 gan:skhron.org: OP6 itself is quite speedy compared to pinephone regular and pro
14:58:49 BlueyHealer: That's less than I expected! That's about as much as it takes for me to switch into the secondary profile.
15:15:48 kaigoh:gohegan.uk: This. This is why I can't go GrapheneOS. > <@gan:skhron.org> I still have to use the banking apps from time to time
15:17:07 kaigoh:gohegan.uk: I'm thinking two devices. One for mainstream that stays off most of the time, and another daily driver with Linux.
15:17:40 gan:skhron.org: @kaigoh:gohegan.uk: Yup, some shitty bank apps won't work with a non-verified device, it's sometimes possible to use a PWA, but sadly not always
15:18:03 BlueyHealer: Is your app requiring specifically an app instead of a webapp? I've heard of this happen and this is nasty. And even then I'd go to the bank and wonder about my options...
15:18:40 BlueyHealer: Here pretty much all of the apps run without Google Services just fine. I guess to acommodate Chinaphones.
15:18:49 kaigoh:gohegan.uk: BlueyHealer: Limited options here, unfortunately. Both the providers I use are full fat app only, no web option.
15:20:46 BlueyHealer: ah
15:21:35 yurimyname:matrix.org: I've taken an interest into postmodern edm-rap-punk-noise music
15:21:48 BlueyHealer: I'd still talk to an employee about how, say, a dumbphone user could use it.
15:27:06 pw:xmr.mx: Bikram Biswas
15:30:21 gan:skhron.org: Factually, it's a common thing in some European states for whatever reason > <BlueyHealer> Is your app requiring specifically an app instead of a webapp? I've heard of this happen and this is nasty. And even then I'd go to the bank and wonder about my options...
15:36:18 monika_tho:matrix.org: @yurimyname:matrix.org: hey yuri, monika tho!
15:36:18 monika_tho:matrix.org: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk8UEWHYfEg
15:39:32 yurimyname:matrix.org: ???
15:46:19 monika_tho:matrix.org: wdym "???" no one reading books no more?
15:46:19 monika_tho:matrix.org: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-zD6OwbBt24
15:46:20 monika_tho:matrix.org: .
23:51:39 jeffro256: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/MaDsoVhBIDkeTrtujWyqRSmH.png (chainalysis_flippening_Jan2026.png)
23:52:42 nioc: :)