03:32:31
redsh4de:matrix.org:
any ideas? that part def could use some work
08:09:24
redsh4de:matrix.org:
also would appreciate if anyone with time can go through the website and provide UX feedback - was really helpful to improve the downloads page yesterday
08:18:14
redsh4de:matrix.org:
mobile style for the category cards used in knowledge base / monero tools
08:18:28
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/tFAXxTdeIfCtxXnffDIjtOLs.png (image.png)
11:51:13
redsh4de:matrix.org:
library page draft
11:51:30
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/tHZWByGPcJHcGKzUzFxGrkqU.png (image.png)
15:09:23
redsh4de:matrix.org:
did i cook or what
15:09:27
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/jWOeYtdadYnykViZKHMJSPUh.png (image.png)
19:31:18
unnamed:kek.pm:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/kek.pm/x3UWuQfZPvPxK9NHA4V55WdwtIOnYws0.jpg (11349.jpg)
20:49:50
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Alright
20:49:52
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://beta.monerodevs.org/
20:50:09
redsh4de:matrix.org:
done, all routes have content
21:01:34
redsh4de:matrix.org:
cleared out the placeholder translations
21:07:44
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
the homepage: with the talknof hero change etc, what do you (and others) think about simplifying the landing page like bitcoin.org
21:08:09
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Meaning dropping some of those 1 2 3 1 2 3 etc and having whatismonero downlaod etc in the hero
21:13:53
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Might work, user would see the main options immediately
21:13:53
redsh4de:matrix.org:
About Monero / Downloads / Buy Monero
21:14:05
redsh4de:matrix.org:
but at that point the entire index page layout would need to be redesigned i think
21:14:22
redsh4de:matrix.org:
cc @diego:cypherstack.com
21:14:41
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: not just the hero section
21:15:06
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Like, (from bottom to top)
21:15:06
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Resources: we dont need the resources section - docs is in the footer and workgroups, and faq is in the menu
21:15:06
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
start using monero:[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/69q_7NsKMGJFN2JV ]
21:15:40
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
This also reduces duplication on the homepage
21:17:23
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Atp just an idea, but i think it could work to greatly simplify the experience and focus on signal
21:23:59
redsh4de:matrix.org:
true abt the resources
21:23:59
redsh4de:matrix.org:
if going that route, would be for deferring the start using monero items to the hero section with the buttons like on bitcoin.org
21:23:59
redsh4de:matrix.org:
then the start using monero section would need to be removed/replaced with something else[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/vpng7NsKYVpLbUM1 ]
21:27:23
redsh4de:matrix.org:
maybe so there are 3 sections, under about Monero we could feature the 3 latest blog posts or something? in a row, would keep the page dynamic
21:27:23
redsh4de:matrix.org:
or a get involved section linking to hangouts or workgroups
21:27:54
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Get involved probably best
21:28:58
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Do you mind doing a trial of that?
21:29:33
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Not at all, few mins
21:29:39
redsh4de:matrix.org:
wont be pretty just rough layout changes
21:31:31
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Good
21:31:39
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
:P
21:31:44
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Ugly is my nickname
21:42:16
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mmhaIENQNmNEmHHOWaeaRDGF.png (image.png)
21:42:38
redsh4de:matrix.org:
the start using monero part should be kept tbh its very helpful
21:42:42
redsh4de:matrix.org:
eyecatcher
21:44:38
redsh4de:matrix.org:
only thing i ended up changing was buttons and the resource section
22:00:39
ofrnxmr:
Start using monero is a duplicate of the hero
22:01:44
ofrnxmr:
"Spend monero" merchant link being the difference
22:03:12
ofrnxmr:
id keep (change) section to link accept monero, spend monero
22:35:47
diego:cypherstack.com:
hey ho, I've returned
22:35:58
redsh4de:matrix.org:
welcome back
22:36:18
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i deployed all the routes today, no blank pages left
22:36:30
diego:cypherstack.com:
looking
22:36:45
diego:cypherstack.com:
I see the discussion of redoing the index page
22:36:49
diego:cypherstack.com:
I don't mind it. I think what I designed is a good bridge between functional and aesthetic
22:36:54
diego:cypherstack.com:
but if someone has better ideas, please feel free to give it a go
22:37:22
redsh4de:matrix.org:
yeah ive been experimenting with the variants - i think what's live right now is good
22:37:43
redsh4de:matrix.org:
but hero definitely needs to be upgraded
22:38:21
redsh4de:matrix.org:
and maybe changing the resources section to a get involved section, because its at the very bottom and the footer already has the resources column next to it like ofrn pointed out
22:38:56
redsh4de:matrix.org:
look through the pages on the site, lmk if you have any improvement ideas
22:40:08
diego:cypherstack.com:
goddamn that drop down menu is sexy
22:40:39
redsh4de:matrix.org:
the header one? yee
22:41:18
redsh4de:matrix.org:
doing the full width instead of the individual cards was a good call
22:42:04
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@diego:cypherstack.com: Its not getting rid of your design, just playing with trimming and modifying content a lil bit
22:42:21
diego:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: any changes and I will throw a tantrum
22:42:26
diego:cypherstack.com:
I jest, let's do it
22:43:55
redsh4de:matrix.org:
what would u wanna change in the hero? would it be the background image mainly?
22:45:34
diego:cypherstack.com:
ofrn will not rest until the size is reduced because he values small things, on himself and elsewhere
22:46:02
diego:cypherstack.com:
I'm fine with reducing it, but then the thought process behind what it will show needs to change a bit too.
22:47:27
ofrnxmr:
The download and buy monero buttons moved to the hero
22:47:28
redsh4de:matrix.org:
if its smaller would probably have to be something like a
22:47:29
redsh4de:matrix.org:
[text] [image]
22:47:29
redsh4de:matrix.org:
layout right?
22:47:45
redsh4de:matrix.org:
or [image] [text] in a row
22:47:46
ofrnxmr:
@ofrnxmr: Resources are in the footer (and menu)
22:48:04
diego:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr: sir, CTAs are still good
22:48:10
ofrnxmr:
I think this is already a win win > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mmhaIENQNmNEmHHOWaeaRDGF.png (image.png)
22:48:30
ofrnxmr:
Since you dont have to scroll around to find downloads button
22:48:47
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i mean, the downloads area is already p visible in the header as well
22:49:12
ofrnxmr:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: I use mobile, so not for me
22:49:58
redsh4de:matrix.org:
true. but if a user clicks on get started, the get started section's 1st step does link them to the downloads page directly - and to the community section with the mobile wallet options as well
22:50:20
ofrnxmr:
Yea, but who's really clicking get started to find a wallet
22:51:54
redsh4de:matrix.org:
well the hamburger menu is there in either case as well... either of the buttons end up linking to the downloads eventually (what-is-monero CTA at the bottom & get-started 1st step)
22:52:36
ofrnxmr:
I like this if start using monero section had link to accept xmr, spend xmr (and buy xmr?) > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mmhaIENQNmNEmHHOWaeaRDGF.png (image.png)
22:52:36
ofrnxmr:
and there was that new get involved section
22:52:43
redsh4de:matrix.org:
but yeah, "Download" is not in your face, it kind of subtly encourages the user to inform themselves first which arguably is a good thing
22:53:03
ofrnxmr:
The first button is what is monero :P
22:53:14
redsh4de:matrix.org:
not so subtle
22:53:50
diego:cypherstack.com:
You wouldn't download a Monero
22:53:56
diego:cypherstack.com:
that's what we'll use
22:54:26
ofrnxmr:
@diego:cypherstack.com: i pictures one of those anti-drug or drinking and driving propaganda videos
22:54:45
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: is this a thing? i might be remembering wrong but think i saw something somewhere
22:54:48
redsh4de:matrix.org:
if it isnt it should be
22:55:01
diego:cypherstack.com:
It was a silly thing "You wouldn't download a car."
22:55:01
diego:cypherstack.com:
or something
22:55:23
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLzy-IJg4_4
22:55:24
ofrnxmr:
An anti-piracy thing, yeah?
22:55:50
redsh4de:matrix.org:
the page if we replace the "Monero Resources" with "Get Involved" - fan of this change myself
22:55:55
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/JEaWXPqoUtmFSWwvZqgcMFLq.png (image.png)
22:56:38
ofrnxmr:
@diego:cypherstack.com: This is gold
22:56:40
redsh4de:matrix.org:
as Resources is already there in the footer linking to docs, just would have to add FAQ there as well
22:56:59
diego:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr: We need to commission someone to make the same thing but for Monero
22:57:02
ofrnxmr:
Get involved is beautiful
22:57:15
diego:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr: I like the change
22:57:37
redsh4de:matrix.org:
nice, consensus!
23:01:53
redsh4de:matrix.org:
also btw, this is the 404 page
23:01:57
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/MpSCnbBnIHSxFcLADmGQeOZJ.png (image.png)
23:02:53
ofrnxmr:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: On the "get involved" add :P. I still prefer the 3 button hero
23:03:30
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
And keep in mind that my views are based solely on mobile experience
23:13:56
redsh4de:matrix.org:
get involved version deployed
23:14:11
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@ofrnxmr: yeah hero overall needs to be reworked
23:14:14
redsh4de:matrix.org:
but i think the overall sections are good now
23:34:03
diego:cypherstack.com:
clicked through everything. Looks good!
23:34:24
diego:cypherstack.com:
one ofrnxmr in the hand is worth two in the bush
23:34:27
diego:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr: this one?
23:34:32
diego:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: or this one?
23:36:26
redsh4de:matrix.org:
two ofrnxmrs
23:36:42
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i think out of all pages this is the weakest one visually
23:36:43
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/contribute/
23:36:55
redsh4de:matrix.org:
very card heavy
23:37:09
redsh4de:matrix.org:
in a way that doesn't make it easy to scan
23:38:56
diego:cypherstack.com:
We can maybe separate into a couple of different pages
23:40:36
redsh4de:matrix.org:
similar to how its done for Tools & Knowledge Base?
23:40:38
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Or more compact
23:42:19
diego:cypherstack.com:
I actually think Knowledge Base isn't a bad template here. Support Network, Develop, and Donate could easily be their own pages. Not super huge ones, but fleshed out.
23:52:04
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Yeah def
23:52:25
redsh4de:matrix.org:
cause right now its a bit of a information overlod