00:01:19
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@321bob321: Yeah, but I did not watercool it for mining use case, it's just bonus
00:51:09
lza_menace:
hilarious that someone made that site just for that. "don't ask to ask" > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> nohello.net
00:54:04
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
dontasktoask.com nohello.net xyproblem.info :D
02:45:00
DataHoarder:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-to-halt-SATA-SSD-production-leaker-warns-of-up-to-18-months-of-SSD-price-pressure-worse-than-Micron-ending-consumer-RAM.1184896.0.html
02:52:55
nioc:
Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB was $160 in October and is now $210
02:53:27
nioc:
up $20 in the past week
03:18:37
plowsof:
but Moores law
03:19:01
DataHoarder:
think of the shareholders
03:23:57
nioc:
recycle your glass bottles so we can make more chips
05:19:35
BlueyHealer:
ravfx, about the brands - I've personally had goos experiences with Kingston SSDs/USB sticks. But it is indeed limited.
05:21:35
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: It's low end stuff that work
05:21:35
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's low end yes, but it's also reliable
05:21:55
ravfx:xmr.mx:
you won't win any performance test but it should work reliably*
05:22:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
This is I don't like dram-free drive, I always ending up with my face hitting the bottleneck they cause
05:24:14
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I have zero trust with USB stuck thru
05:24:14
ravfx:xmr.mx:
so many of them suicided while I used them
05:24:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
So I switched to cheap nvme drive in USB nvme enclosure
05:24:43
BlueyHealer:
Ah, I indeed use low-end ones!
05:24:43
ravfx:xmr.mx:
So even my USB "keys" have dram in them 😂
05:25:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But for the USB keys, it's more the sandisk one I got issue, I think the warm ambiant temperature did not help... They all die somehow
05:25:46
ravfx:xmr.mx:
speed is down to a crawl after more than 1 GB saved...
05:25:50
BlueyHealer:
<ravfx:xmr.mx> So I switched to cheap nvme drive in USB nvme enclosure <- I do use USB sticks for other things (like when I need to print), but yeah, indeed, I do trust drives more. And indeed a normal drive in an enclosure seems like the way rather than a whole dedicated external drive)
05:26:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Nvme drive in USB enclosure on the other one I like, it's like 15-20$ on amazon, you put a decent drive in it and you can push 500MB/s for the whole time your dumping 40GB in the thing!
05:27:13
BlueyHealer:
Aren't "internal" ones also usually better-quality too?
05:29:40
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: Well, the thing i'm talking are USB NVMe adapters, so you can put the nvme drive of your choice inside the enclosure and use it as external drive.
05:29:40
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But yeah, internal use is better (it's designed for internal use). USB have extra quick and it's slower, plus the drive can get warm in the enclosure (ideally you get a full metal one so you can warm up your hands by moving files in it during the winter)
05:30:19
ravfx:xmr.mx:
All my old nvme drive ended up in external enclosure of that type
05:30:24
BlueyHealer:
I was talking about the same thing except SATA because they tend to be cheaper.
05:30:47
ravfx:xmr.mx:
including a Samsung one that I used to the bone (0% life left according to smart)
05:31:11
BlueyHealer:
also one such SSD is plugged into my torrent-seeding box right now and I don't think it gets partocularly warm.
05:31:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: You can use sata too yeah, it's just that I tend to upgrade my hardware and endup with extra nvme units with time
05:31:37
BlueyHealer:
lucky
10:56:37
321bob321:
https://youtu.be/UALxgn1MnZo nioc it will pack your lunch
12:47:21
basses:matrix.org:
Should Proof-of-Work be standardized for HTTP?
12:47:21
basses:matrix.org:
https://blog.ce9e.org/posts/2025-05-24-anubis/
13:09:06
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
@basses:matrix.org: Yes please ! Bonus point if it's randomx, but it might be difficult to implement in all browsers
14:33:10
gan:skhron.org:
@basses:matrix.org: Standardization of POW is in fact what would kill it, the examples were given are easily computable with ASICs, standardization also would limit choice in general as well
14:33:59
gan:skhron.org:
To note the classics - "Standards are always out of date. That’s what makes them standards." and "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from."
14:38:00
datahoarder:
^ it's proof of browser or interaction less so pow
14:38:17
datahoarder:
literally a simple refresh with js had the same success as pow
14:38:24
datahoarder:
the rest is around cookie setting
14:39:30
datahoarder:
or even refresh with meta HTTP header in <html>...
14:39:45
datahoarder:
or checking if CSS resources got loaded :D
14:40:28
datahoarder:
all of that requires you to keep state around requests = less dragnet scraping
14:41:23
datahoarder:
before it was dragnet then process weeks later, now they had to move processing and interactivity on the loop. it also decreased how fast they could scrape (and it was more expensive for them, from a single python script to full chromiums)
14:41:40
datahoarder:
yet still can't git clone ...
14:41:51
datahoarder:
several TBs wasted to scrape a 14 KiB git repo
14:45:30
gan:skhron.org:
Such proposal is fundamentally useless in my view, as any standard would disregard many options which could be done with Javascript/WASM - it's an example where diversity of implementations is a strength, since the attacker(s) can't account for all the methods being used to verify the interaction to begin with, creating quite a lot of friction and making the whole endeavor quite fruitless for them
14:50:00
datahoarder:
indeed. you can even do HTTP 2 poking of internals to find if they are the brand they say they are :)
14:50:05
datahoarder:
or find any proxy usage
14:50:07
datahoarder:
quite fun
14:50:12
datahoarder:
all JS-less
17:23:21
jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org:
micron, now samsung https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-to-halt-SATA-SSD-production.1184896.0.html
17:23:41
DataHoarder:
repost :P
17:24:04
jack_ma_blabla:matrix.org:
oops
17:53:03
plowsof:
but Moores law
19:58:36
nioc:
*mores
21:01:25
321bob321:
*S’mores
22:35:38
0xfffc:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/yfInVcYREsLQoQRyLrTEgQNr/bHdOHfBSG0GW0H1-ggJbZf5jUDUgIeA5YTysEcwOoR9xqk7m2HpIDQAAAAAAAAAA.mp4 (-1710775565638757588.mp4)
23:25:59
mining1337:matrix.org:
@shitpost1337:matrix.org: hey, sorry having to ask but lost the link, what was the link for the logs again? 😅
23:45:27
shitpost1337:matrix.org:
@mining1337:matrix.org: hey no worries, https://logs.monero.coffee
23:48:31
shitpost1337:matrix.org:
I'll check what's up with it, sorry for the inconvenience > <DataHoarder> is this another br-ds-geld annoyance time?