00:10:26 shortwavesurfer2009: RetoSwap has launched the beta version of their application. For now, they ask people to keep the trade amounts low in case there are problems.
00:10:26 shortwavesurfer2009: https://github.com/retoaccess1/RetoSwap-App/releases/tag/v1.0.0.1-beta
00:50:00 321bob321: How come it was forked ?
00:51:10 torir:matrix.org: This is the Android app, not the desktop one.
00:52:40 321bob321: Yeah but forked from https://github.com/atsamd21/Haveno-app
00:54:49 atsamd21:matrix.org: network operators have to fork and configure it for their network, my repo is only for stagenet
01:07:33 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: this connects to an existing desktop instance?
01:08:31 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Cuz i didnt see anything in their commits that pointed to any network. Just the fee changes + "stagenet" -> "mainnet" + repo links
01:12:13 revuoxmr: Revuo Monero Issue 251: November 3 - 25, 2025. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-251/
02:31:22 atsamd21:matrix.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: They changed the url to point to their haveno releases where it fetches the haveno daemon
03:58:56 datahoarder: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/foPLGgssajCZXiPDvwTBfddf.png (image.png)
03:59:12 datahoarder: Added an indicator on https://blocks.p2pool.observer/pools when pools go past 50%
03:59:29 datahoarder: for example, currently SXMR + HV + NP control 67% of hashrate
06:57:41 rbrunner7: Is the 10% fee for mining XMR through Qubic an estimate, or do really 10% of the shares you submit just "vanish"?
07:31:42 datahoarder: it's the fee their pools have
07:31:55 datahoarder: https://miningpoolstats.stream/qubic
07:31:58 datahoarder: jetski has 8% but also smaller share
07:32:18 datahoarder: note miners are paid on Qubic, and it's miners mining qubic which mine also XMR
07:33:23 datahoarder: https://qubic.minerlab.io/overview <- solo 10% as "service fee", PPS "up to 10%" service fee, "maybe lower"
07:34:02 datahoarder: apool: https://apool.gitbook.io/help/qubic-faq/pool-fee
07:34:06 datahoarder: 10%.
07:35:05 datahoarder: so 10% of your reward is gone, whatever that reward ends up being
07:35:38 datahoarder: @rbrunner7: about vanishing shares, seems it's also hard for people to "solo" mine as their shares don't propagate due to their network and are lost :)
07:36:06 rbrunner7: Interesting. But never mind, after getting ripped off 10% you get those wonderful, very valuable and future-proof Qubic coins, and that will more than make up for your loss :)
07:37:10 datahoarder: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/hQvqsjJpaNCkcvkeXqNXPxNY.png (image.png)
07:37:25 datahoarder: hey, top2 pools now control 50% + 0.2%
07:37:37 datahoarder: (in the past week)
07:38:34 neutronic99:matrix.org: Hello, could anyone point me to a privacy focused monero android wallet?
08:32:16 anything21:matrix.org: Netron666 Use Termux to run monero-wallet-cli. Route network traffic through TOR. Create an additional layer of encryption using GPG.
09:23:15 quantum_z9191:matrix.org: @datahoarder: what's the problem with this?
09:24:11 DataHoarder: no problem per se. pools could collude together to get 50%+1, although unlikely
09:27:11 quantum_z9191:matrix.org: what will happen if they get to 50+1?
09:27:16 quantum_z9191:matrix.org: sorry I'm new here
09:29:05 DataHoarder: you can achieve 100% long term or select what makes it on the network
09:29:27 DataHoarder: this is, sustained, not peak as Qubic did
09:30:10 DataHoarder: these are not hostile entities but old people might remember MineXMR reaching 50% on its own a couple years ago
09:32:38 angled:matrix.angled.rip: @neutronic99:matrix.org: are you specifically against using cake? pretty simple & privacy level depends on how you choose to use it.
09:32:48 sech1: feeling old
09:34:47 reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: @neutronic99:matrix.org: cake wallet is already pretty good, can reroute trough tor and have a self erased pin feature
09:37:02 angled:matrix.angled.rip: DataHoarder: people need to mine in smaller pools, definitely agree. I don't particularly care if the pool is openly hostile or not, they still should not have the ability to do any amount of shenanigans to the network.
09:37:27 DataHoarder: go to monero ocean :P
09:37:29 DataHoarder: or well. p2pool
09:37:50 marioob:matrix.org: @neutronic99:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/YoaxaOglYPVAnkfRBMrIdwgJ. (I guess these are your only options as they are recommended on getmonero.org. Some of them you can even find on fdroid.)
09:38:07 angled:matrix.angled.rip: DataHoarder: ha, I actually have one machine on both atm
09:39:42 angled:matrix.angled.rip: @marioob:matrix.org: you say only options but there is a million wallets listed haha
09:40:38 redsh4de:matrix.org: @neutronic99:matrix.org: Anonero is a privacy oriented wallet for Android, you have to access the page via Tor though
09:41:01 marioob:matrix.org: @angled:matrix.angled.rip: I can only see 7
09:42:13 angled:matrix.angled.rip: @marioob:matrix.org: that's quite a large amount of wallets IMO
13:23:19 pcre: https://odysee.com/@pcre:e/mnp9:0
13:23:37 pcre: A program for reading a Monero transaction written in Assembler.
14:07:52 DataHoarder: is this reading the json?
14:07:54 DataHoarder: or binary frankestein
14:10:11 rbrunner7: And: "Why?"
14:25:46 datahoarder: easy answer, "why not"
18:10:24 pcre: What do you guys think of the idea of a reverse bazaar? You post the product you want, for example, with an Amazon link. Your opponent buys this product with fiat money, gets paid in XMR and provides the relevant delivery address.
18:13:36 ohchase:envs.net: @pcre: Couldn't one bad actor go and accept every order, and lock the offers and dispute all the orders? You would end up needing an arbitrator
18:15:43 ohchase:envs.net: or i guess the whole premise already warrants a need for an arbiter\
18:15:46 pcre: @ohchase:envs.net: Fair enough
18:17:58 loveloli:matrix.org: @pcre: The idea is good but there is no good exicution for it
18:18:24 kowalabearhugs_: @pcre: This sounds like a concept similar to Anon Shop, https://anonshop.app/ and https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1ns5aq8/anonymous_amazon_deliveries/
18:20:09 ohchase:envs.net: also feel free to tell me to go kick rocks, but I was hoping since monero and tor community are friendly (?) does anyone have any information/examples/articles that go over fake tor traffic to blur usage. I was tinkering with the idea with a side application that creates hidden services to pump fake traffic. You leave it on at [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/srf15dIKZnlRaWU2 ]
18:21:06 pcre: DataHoarder: It is reading a pipe (string). Just as it should be - the univeral interface. However, this is only possible via a JSON wrapper.
18:21:27 rucknium: @ohchase:envs.net: That is cover traffic. It's implemented in mixnets, not Tor. Nym is a working implementation of it.
18:21:34 ohchase:envs.net: @ohchase:envs.net: I know with stuff like this, you can actually be shooting yourself in the foot lol
18:23:15 ohchase:envs.net: @rucknium: I was reading about spectre 0 day for cpus, and then I cried because I feel like a peasant compared to these savants
18:44:44 pcre: https://cdn.nostrcheck.me/b5db2c16e1037cece8fcb4e8591723a6dfc97dec76dbce250a8484ec25730230/fa7a378d309a56ef988cc6d7043e0fa9613efaba962dd6f7323f5112e963c9f8.webp
19:21:17 hooftly:matrix.org: Privacy as far as I understand.
21:50:28 torir:matrix.org: > <@pcre> What do you guys think of the idea of a reverse bazaar? You post the product you want, for example, with an Amazon link. Your opponent buys this product with fiat money, gets paid in XMR and provides the relevant delivery address.
21:50:28 torir:matrix.org: Purse.io used to offer this exact service but for Bitcoin. They've unfortunately shut down. You could even purchase with a discount since the service could be used to extract Amazon gift card balance from your Amazon account (which is otherwise impossible to liquidate). I imagine the service was probably also used by scammers [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/pMX369IKWkM3MGZS ]
22:19:02 torir:matrix.org: They didn't provide a reason for the shutdown but I assume it was due to regulatory uncertainty.
22:35:54 torir:matrix.org: (Ignore everything I said about the shutdown, it's baseless speculation on my part)