06:24:36
0xfffc:
Don’t let it happen, it depends on you.
06:25:14
0xfffc:
@0xfffc: Whoops. I send this
06:25:25
0xfffc:
Here ^ > <@0xfffc> Don't let it happen. It depends on you.
06:25:33
0xfffc:
I don’t know why it sent this multiple times though
14:08:18
datahoarder:
I could see it on matrix fine, I was trying to bridge it to IRC
14:08:44
datahoarder:
The server for the matrix<>irc bridge now makes an url with that as the key so it can decrypt it on the fly when users request it
21:57:09
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
hi @here
22:04:03
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
nohello.net
22:04:30
gan:skhron.org:
To note, it's not Discord either
22:05:27
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Good thing randoms can't ping everyone with just a "here" or "room"
22:06:12
pointoffailure:
Hey there, are all these news true? Are prices for memory skyrocketing now? I bought the memory 3 years ago and planned to upgrade it in 2026. Should I wait for another year now?
22:06:12
pointoffailure:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/109337/samsung-halting-sata-ssd-production-says-leaker-warns-of-18-months-of-ssd-price-pressure/index.html
22:07:08
ivan:tmux.io:
that link is about ssds
22:07:16
ivan:tmux.io:
but yes memory prices are pretty crazy right now
22:07:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pointoffailure: it only tripled so far
22:08:48
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Flash storage might go up too.
22:08:48
ravfx:xmr.mx:
As Crucial is existing and another big SSD maker is also exiting SSD production (don't have the name in my name right now)
22:09:18
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Samsung halt SATA SSD prod
22:09:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
you are going to own nothing and use cloud storage!
22:10:16
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
i have a question @everyone
22:10:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
so nice the @ don't work
22:10:42
ivan:tmux.io:
he is pinging people in a bridged monero discord
22:11:00
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@ivan:tmux.io: That premium leaker guy, quite accurate usually
22:11:02
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
what is a moonero
22:11:05
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/YWbqAroekhhaiftABJZvBFJs.png (clipboard.png)
22:11:32
gan:skhron.org:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: Money.
22:11:56
gan:skhron.org:
assuming you meant to spell it Monero tho
22:12:05
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-to-halt-SATA-SSD-production-leaker-warns-of-up-to-18-months-of-SSD-price-pressure-worse-than-Micron-ending-consumer-RAM.1184896.0.html
22:12:16
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@everyone thanks gaza
22:12:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
why do you try to ping everyone?
22:12:51
gan:skhron.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: Discordism of the mind
22:12:54
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@everyone anyone else here plays roblox?
22:12:59
pointoffailure:
@ivan:tmux.io: I mentions RAM situation too. Well, I can live for a year without extra RAM but flash storage is what I'm interested the most.
22:13:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pointoffailure: then buy it now, don't delay
22:13:35
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
why use ram if u can enable swap
22:13:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
ram is faster
22:13:50
pointoffailure:
So it's not trippled so far? > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> Flash storage might go up too.
22:13:51
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@everyone
22:13:55
ravfx:xmr.mx:
then zram :D
22:14:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pointoffailure: only ram trippled
22:14:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
SSD will probably if you wait a few months
22:14:58
ravfx:xmr.mx:
what's the choice of Sata SSD other than Samsung[leaving] and Crucial[gone]?
22:14:58
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Kingston low end shit?
22:15:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Some people already saying Sansing SSD doubled in price lol (did not confirm)
22:15:42
btcdwed:
they doubled,facts
22:15:49
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Sandisk *
22:16:03
btcdwed:
RAM went from 90€ for 32GB to 350€ in .de
22:16:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
ram did more than trippled yeah
22:16:14
btcdwed:
soon 400€ 32GB RAM safu incoming
22:16:22
ivan:tmux.io:
the wd red 4tbs i bought in july went from $258 to $326 on amazon
22:16:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
fortunately I have all the ram I need
22:16:25
btcdwed:
NVME SSDs also doubled
22:16:33
btcdwed:
i dont buy some weeks ago
22:16:37
btcdwed:
now i fomo af
22:16:38
btcdwed:
:P
22:16:55
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
ram is non persistent anyways, just invest in persistant ram 💅 @everyone
22:17:04
btcdwed:
what do you mean?
22:17:09
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: Only some server mobo can support that weird ram
22:17:10
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
its cheaper too
22:17:12
DataHoarder:
seems we got a troll around plowsof ^
22:17:22
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
NVMe SSD is basically persistant ram
22:17:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
if you mean "swap" then it already doubled in a lot of space
22:17:30
btcdwed:
ah ok
22:17:31
btcdwed:
:P
22:17:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: nvme is slower than ram
22:17:34
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
just plug it into ur ram socket with a connector
22:17:38
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
its the same technology
22:17:48
ravfx:xmr.mx:
my old DDR4 can score ~20GB/s
22:17:57
ravfx:xmr.mx:
it's faster than the fastest PCIE.5 nvme drive afaik
22:18:08
btcdwed:
hmm, why that
22:18:12
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
NVMe is as fast as DDR3 and DDR3 is fast enough
22:18:27
DataHoarder:
how many read cycles? :D
22:18:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: how to I add DDR3 to my threadripper?
22:18:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
force?
22:18:35
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
plus with ssds u can put them in raid0 and keep doubling the speed
22:18:46
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
u cant do that with ram, so checkmate @everyone
22:18:49
btcdwed:
which board supporting that?
22:18:53
DataHoarder:
just use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVDIMM
22:18:57
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
infinite speed vs limited ddr5 speed
22:19:10
ravfx:xmr.mx:
DataHoarder: yeah, that's the one. but most board don't support that
22:19:22
DataHoarder:
enterprise ones do :D
22:19:24
DataHoarder:
but intel also killed it
22:19:29
btcdwed:
haha
22:19:40
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Just put like 8 x 20TB drive in raid 5 or something
22:19:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
then use a 2TB nvme drive for caching
22:19:41
btcdwed:
endconsumer arent en vogue anymore
22:20:00
btcdwed:
i never tried that, but sounds interesting :D
22:20:36
DataHoarder:
but really. unless you are looking at enterprise NVMe SSD you will find that they won't survive much (or that you get throttled after you run out of SLC memory :P)
22:20:57
ravfx:xmr.mx:
always get nvme with DRAM
22:21:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
that's my rule, no DRAM, no buy
22:21:14
btcdwed:
naah, only if you move more tons of GBs daily
22:21:26
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
honestly i wish ram prices would keep increasing, i have already bought 4kg of ram and im ready to sell it once i reach 200 APY
22:21:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Samsung only exit Sata so there is hope (for NVMe)
22:21:50
ravfx:xmr.mx:
4KG of what?: FPM?
22:21:56
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
of RAM
22:22:04
nioc:
of BS
22:22:11
btcdwed:
daddy <3
22:22:37
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
u need some ram babygirl?
22:22:59
ravfx:xmr.mx:
only time you buy ram in KG is when you buy it from scrapyard ort something
22:23:41
btcdwed:
i buy 4KG of ddr5 RAM sir, query me
22:23:42
btcdwed:
:P
22:23:57
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
i am just a reseller i have so much i just measure it in kg
22:24:08
nioc:
I have some DDR2 if you like
22:24:21
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
this thing is a much better investment than bitcoin
22:24:24
btcdwed:
i got 4x2GB ddr2 too daddy :P
22:24:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I have all of them, from 30 pin simm to DDR5 😂
22:24:41
nioc:
ofc u do :)
22:25:10
btcdwed:
cyberwizardofanything: i can sell you 800grams of ddr2 ram, are you interested?
22:25:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The only one I don't have are the 30 pin simm that have actual pins instead of gold fingers
22:25:21
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
this website is awful to use on mobile @everyone
22:25:34
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/AGEOmChzoaKqqRiVPleugQQf.png (Screenshot_20251214-232539.png)
22:25:54
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
had to even enable desktop mode
22:25:55
nioc:
TIL this is a website
22:26:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
real men use program, like Nheko
22:27:12
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
im a femboy hacker
22:27:24
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@here
22:27:46
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Stop trying to ping us, it does not work
22:27:55
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
i weigh more than all of your ram combined @everyone
22:28:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: What about my monero node, it use very long mercury delay lines to store the blockchain
22:29:12
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
is that mercury quantum resistant?
22:29:20
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I'm sure I have enough mercury to outweight you
22:29:28
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: yes, it is
22:29:33
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
fuck
22:29:35
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Just don't breath it
22:30:16
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
why doesnt @everyone work here like what kind of chat app is this
22:30:28
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
even microsoft teams knows how to ping people properly
22:30:55
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: Matrix have working "permissions"
22:31:09
ravfx:xmr.mx:
people without the permissions can't ping whole rooms lol
22:31:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Even in my own room I disabled room ping even for mods
22:31:45
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=17.757561&mlon=10.031256 (Location geo:17.757561162263528,10.031256457791898 at 2025-12-14T22:32:01.367Z)
22:32:35
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
oh cool u can even share ur location
22:33:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: I don't think so, it's a chat thing, not Uber or Didi
22:34:52
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/WjJyNSoLJQZUQGQKShHYgLnv.png (Screenshot_20251214-233445.png)
22:34:52
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
works fine for me
22:34:57
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
have u tried updating ur computer?
22:35:27
ravfx:xmr.mx:
my computer don't have location
22:35:28
ravfx:xmr.mx:
my phone only have random location
22:35:28
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Why would I try that anyway lol
22:36:15
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
let me come.over
22:36:50
ravfx:xmr.mx:
non thanks
22:38:15
DataHoarder:
23:32:04 <br-m> <greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org> https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=17.757561&mlon=10.031256 (Location geo:17.757561162263528,10.031256457791898 at 2025-12-14T22:32:01.367Z)
22:38:27
DataHoarder:
lol
22:38:29
DataHoarder:
I added that but never expected to see it being used on IRC
22:39:29
pointoffailure:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/109337/samsung-halting-sata-ssd-production-says-leaker-warns-of-18-months-of-ssd-price-pressure/index.html
22:40:35
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
you created schildi? DataHoarder
22:40:54
pointoffailure:
Damn, WTF happened to Schildi chat. It's a total mess now. Cannot send messages, the chat history is lags behind..
22:41:06
nioc:
please triple monero price so I can buy moar ram
22:41:17
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
yes ur supposed to open this chat on discord and switch between ur browser and the discord app
22:41:34
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
this is just for sending messages, discord is for reading messages @everyone
22:41:40
pointoffailure:
Reboot helps, though
22:41:43
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pointoffailure: I can read it :p
22:41:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Deletion is futile in linked rooms.
22:42:21
RavFX:
IRC log all like it did 40 years ago or something. The OG chat thing
22:42:35
DataHoarder:
is this another br-ds-geld annoyance time?
22:43:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Why pisscord still exist.
22:43:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's inferior for everything except for pings
22:43:48
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
discord is great; it allows you to play video games inside the app like wordle
22:44:03
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: wfc
22:45:08
pointoffailure:
For the last 15 minutes I was trying to say that SanDisk, Kingstone, Corsair D.K. and GoodRam are in my personal blacklist for poor perfomance and unreliability issues. I enjoy flash memory from AGI(Agile Gear International) and Lexar manufacturers, curious about their SSDs. > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> Some people already saying Sansing SSD doubled in price lol (did not confirm)
22:45:25
DataHoarder:
anyhow you all. don't engage the trolls, they will bore and move on :P
22:45:56
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
or you can troll the troll and have a good time, you boring nerd
22:46:07
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, I only get DRAM enabled SSD and for some system I use that Kioxia stuff
22:46:20
ravfx:xmr.mx:
all my spinning rust here are from HGST or course
22:47:01
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Got that extra interface just the plug the spining rust 😂
22:48:10
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Have to upgrade my LTO tape thing eventually.
22:49:10
ravfx:xmr.mx:
DataHoarder: yeah, maybe I should do something else
22:49:30
DataHoarder:
LTO-10 came so time to get LTO-8 :)
22:49:42
DataHoarder:
tape still being made at high volume and price is going down
22:49:56
ravfx:xmr.mx:
DataHoarder: yeah, exactly, squat ebay and refresh every days!
22:49:56
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
how did you add this though, are u a dev of schildi? > <DataHoarder> I added that but never expected to see it being used on IRC
22:50:39
DataHoarder:
I have some code/tools to convert a library drive to standalone too, btw, I did that with a new unit sealed in box for a library
22:50:39
DataHoarder:
:D
22:51:11
DataHoarder:
also implemented way more than that, reverse engineered the firmware too and tools
22:51:49
ravfx:xmr.mx:
nice
22:52:07
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I only have LTO-5 here 😂
22:52:09
DataHoarder:
the only thing is that I got no front lid :D
22:52:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Really need to get that LTO-8 stuff
22:52:25
DataHoarder:
but I put that drive onto a normal carrier
22:52:36
DataHoarder:
you can also convert the other way around, but that tends to be easier
22:52:46
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Mine is like an external thing I got on sale a while ago
22:53:08
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: DataHoarder:
22:53:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I did pull it out of the enclosure and stuff it in my PC but it's like +10db so I put it back in the external enclosure 😂
22:53:43
DataHoarder:
that enclosure is needed btw
22:53:56
DataHoarder:
needs a LOT of cooling
22:53:58
DataHoarder:
at high static pressure
22:54:17
DataHoarder:
otherwise the heads hit their limit quick. they do pull like 15-25W in a very small surface
22:54:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's way silent, at least for the older unit, did not try my future lto-8 unit yet
22:55:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
If you mean a library library, it's different yeah
22:55:25
DataHoarder:
not library, even just enclosures
22:55:34
DataHoarder:
if it has a fan by design, you are good
22:55:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
yeah, mine have a fan, but even that it's more silent than putting it in the PC... And yeah, maybe it's better to leave it in the enclosure for the fan
22:55:55
DataHoarder:
if it doesn't, you might kill the drive (or it might auto-stall due to heat)
22:56:26
DataHoarder:
also ambient temps ... assume it gets +20C inside :)
22:56:28
DataHoarder:
... on idle
22:57:22
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: DataHoarder:
23:23:21
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: DataHoarder:
23:34:51
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@banhammer:matrix.org
23:42:55
321bob321:
Anyone mine with a water cooled pc ?
23:44:19
ivan:tmux.io:
water cooling seems overkill for most usecases ngl
23:46:43
plowsof:matrix.org:
is @greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org: spamming direct pings? :(
23:47:10
321bob321:
@plowsof:matrix.org yeah
23:49:03
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
@plowsof:matrix.org: @321bob321:monero.social @ravfx:xmr.mx DataHoarder simply didn't see my ping its why im reminding him
23:49:20
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Fucking left me out, pussy
23:49:26
321bob321:
@greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org ok
23:49:31
greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org:
IM SORRY @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx I LOVE U TOO
23:49:34
DataHoarder:
or ignored the troll, thanks for bringing the troll alive
23:50:43
plowsof:matrix.org:
sorry, i only caught the stuff about being able to disable everyone pings on matrix
23:51:11
DataHoarder:
it's not even a thing most of the time
23:51:57
datahoarder:
it's also @ room :D
23:52:19
datahoarder:
but the discord brain of the troll can't even realize it's not working ofc
23:52:20
plowsof:matrix.org:
🫢
23:52:38
datahoarder:
they came with the intention to be disruptive and edgy, as usual, ignore them
23:54:05
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Ye, they werent in any other rooms
23:54:25
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Clearly some retard who's probably already here via their main acct
23:55:04
datahoarder:
or the bridged discord, or the impostor trying to appear like that due to the Discord bridge
23:56:01
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
That was a normal acct and from their screenshot, this was the only room they were kn
23:56:02
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
In*
23:56:31
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Created an acct for the sole purpose of joining monero-offtopic and shitposting
23:57:21
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Monero-offtopic isnt an advertised room (on website etc), so its not likely to be first stop for anyone
23:57:32
DataHoarder:
23:41:36 <br-m> <greatwizardofdoom:matrix.org> yes ur supposed to open this chat on discord and switch between ur browser and the discord app