01:26:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.19.2-Released
01:26:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The shit is so botched that we got two point release on the same day
01:27:42
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I was kinda thinking why I have a hole in my kernel collection, now I know, they released another one so fast that I skipped a version while upgrading every days
01:28:37
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Still wont try it till .5
01:28:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
First time an os managed to fsck my uefi
01:34:13
btcdwed:
first i thought you meant windows, then i saw your link :P
01:44:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Naa, Linux desktop is more botched than windows enterprise ltsc.
01:44:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Pretty sure vibe coding is also involved, which can explain the loss in quality in the recent years
01:45:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Hell, i remember daily driving -rc and -next a decade ago... Now I have to stay away from normal release until a few point release
01:48:07
btcdwed:
thats the way :P
04:54:52
DataHoarder:
ravfx:xmr.mx: sounds GPU funs, just use software decoder :')
04:54:56
DataHoarder:
at 8K 120fps ofc
04:56:11
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Well, I did stay on 6.17.x for longer, until 6.18 was reliable.
04:56:11
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And now I stay at 6.18.10 until... well, Until I want risk trying 6.19 again, will wait at .5.
04:56:11
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Software decoded waste CPU ;)
05:47:11
ct:xmr.mx:
At least you get to choose when to update
08:22:55
321bob321:
https://ironpeak.be/blog/leaking-secrets-from-the-claud/
08:24:13
BlueyHealer:
not the same but reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7BI4jfEFwA
08:37:10
321bob321:
https://research.eye.security/log-poisoning-in-openclaw/
08:37:56
321bob321:
"Using this POC, we were not able to reliably make the LLM interpret and act on the injected instructions. Instead, something slightly ironic happened"
11:17:36
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@ct:xmr.mx: Wdym by at least?
11:17:37
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I choose when/how to update on all my operating systems. One of them have automated default so the non technicals stay up to date but that can be overriden (for that specific OS I use the enterprise version so no feature updates and it wait one week before proposing me security updates, to leave time for peoples with telemetry [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/_djiz-cKd0gydGFy ]
11:17:37
ravfx:xmr.mx:
On the Linux side I also do it when I do it, every few days, and most of the time i do not reboot. And yes, "non reboot after updates weird issue" can append but far less than on the microslop os.
11:26:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Linux related issues for not rebooting are usually some application that become weird until I relaunch them. And often think like screenshot that stop working. Fortunately I use Gentoo and hoard kernels so kernel upgrade dont break usb key support if I dont reboot (arch users will know that very anoying post upgrade thing)
11:38:49
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Now that i think about it, I am immune to "not rebooting after kernel upgrade issues" is other ways too. My kernels have no modules. Everythink I use is built in. So even if it was nuking the modules after an update, there is no modules to nuke
11:55:12
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Oh yeah, one have to patch ollama if you want to use it on a module-free kernel. Who tought it was a good idea to detect what kind of gpu there is in the system by checking what kernel modules are loaded.... Instead of finding then interogating rocm and cuda.
12:02:56
idhide:matrix.org:
I am selling a fully age verified discord account for cheap check it out if you are interested! https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/v8Wb/
12:07:54
btcdwed:
hai
12:23:46
ct:xmr.mx:
even if Linux desktop is more botched than windows, you don't have to worry about surprise updates that forcefully restart without your control
12:23:46
ct:xmr.mx:
Yeah with special versions and tweaking you may beat windows into submission, but that ain't the default experience
12:24:33
ct:xmr.mx:
After using Linux for a while its such a stark contrast to my work windows PC I forced to use
12:46:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@ct:xmr.mx: You can tell it that you want to update when you want to update. That argument can be totally reversed.
12:46:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Install Arch on aunt Rosa computer and when you will visite her 6 month later you will see that the system is 6 months out of date
12:47:14
BlueyHealer:
Why
12:47:43
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The non technical masse just want to use there computer, there not interrested into maintaining the OS. Hense the default for windows to go out of sleep during the night, update, reboot and go back to sleep
12:47:48
BlueyHealer:
Why Arch though? I doubt Aunt Rosa would like Arch and not something like Mint.
12:48:16
BlueyHealer:
I don't know how to even install Arch... Even Archinstall seems a whole lot more involved than "press next" on everything else!
12:48:50
BlueyHealer:
windows to go out of sleep during the night, update, reboot and go back to sleep <- Does an average person not turn the computer off for the night anyway?
12:48:57
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I jist reversed the argument. Windows default are there because the masse just want to use there computer. I could have named most distrib and the same would apply > <BlueyHealer> Why
12:49:22
BlueyHealer:
But, like, Mint or Debian are "just works".
12:49:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: We are in 2026. Windows use a different power state for off...
12:49:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Its called sleep
12:49:57
ravfx:xmr.mx:
If you have fast boot enabled in the bios
12:49:59
BlueyHealer:
Ah, that's the default.
12:50:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah
12:50:43
BlueyHealer:
This wasn't the case for the last Windows I knew. Also, this is concerning because wouldn't that damage the battery? You think it's off, then it trued to turn itself on and drained the battery in the process?
12:51:10
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And update are not when your using the computer, that was in early windows 10 days. Now at least the thing know when the user is not using it
12:53:18
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: The os isnt that dumb, the update process last less than 5 minutes on competant hardware. It does now download the update when it do them, it download the update in advance when the user is using the computer. But delay them for when the user is not using thebconputer
12:54:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I saw way more battery killing issues with linux (laptop with shitty acpi. Think wake up in the bag, overheat, then battery drain lower than minimum voltage and die)
12:54:56
ravfx:xmr.mx:
That is exactly how I lost me Lenovo X200 8 cells battery (almost new). Thanks Linux
12:57:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Linux evangilists should at least use current fact when trashing winslop
13:00:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The only time automated windows update might cause issue for your laptop in a bag is if you dual boot and default with with linux (and it stay waiting on "Enter Luks passphrase" after the reboot)
13:01:48
plowsof:
i miss the blue screen of death and seeing a 'installing updates' screen when i need to do something, and anti virus using 100% cpu to protect me from crypto miners that would use 100% cpu
13:03:30
BlueyHealer:
ravfx, but 5 minutes of intense usage could also drain that.
13:04:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, i remember in the early day of windows 10.. The thing would reboot on you while you are working or gaming
13:04:45
BlueyHealer:
I mean it's not like it's in good shape to begin with in that case, but I mean discharge too deeply.
13:05:19
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: Would be a good test to do : does windows check the batt% or the thermal during updates
13:05:59
BlueyHealer:
Yeah, that's something curious.
13:06:23
BlueyHealer:
I don't have anything to test on now though, but really wonder if it does.
13:06:40
plowsof:
a family friend told us that if we turned the computer off at night it would break
13:06:52
BlueyHealer:
Although even then 100% of some battery could be less than 10% of another, so still a question.
13:07:20
ravfx:xmr.mx:
40%
13:07:52
ravfx:xmr.mx:
If the battery drop bellow 40%, it should pause or cancel the update
13:08:20
BlueyHealer:
Ah, so it wasn't a question, you know that it does that?
13:08:43
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But if your 100% is 10% at that point your battery is already dead
13:08:54
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: I did look it up
13:09:18
BlueyHealer:
Yeah, I understand, I just mean that it would otherwise discharge it too deeply then
13:09:31
BlueyHealer:
If it does check - yeah, then makes more sense
13:09:52
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I dont use laptop. The last one I brought is my x200 and I did not get a new battery after linux killed that 8 cell battery I had
13:14:12
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Now both windows and Linux update quality are going down. I assume its because slop is getting in
13:16:36
plowsof:
have you had any luck buying replacement laptop batteries? this laptop was draining in under 1 hour. the replacement drained in 20 mins. you really need to buy OEM if possible
13:17:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Two releases in a row (in my case : 6.18.0-6.18.4 and 6.19.0.. Did not try 6.18.2 emergency edition).
13:17:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Did not get affected by borked windows updates thanks to my update schedule and the fact I use Enterprise. But normie version lately, got many dud or stupid CVE in notepad
13:18:16
basses:matrix.org:
An announcement from the OEM is now supposedly coming in March 2026. Snapdragon GrapheneOS supported device.
13:18:16
basses:matrix.org:
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/grapheneos-will-drop-google-pixel-exclusivity-with-major-snapdragon-powered-devices-coming/32097/126
13:18:49
ravfx:xmr.mx:
plowsof: Non, I tried one time for the x200. Replacement was looking fine till I floor the cpu and noticed it inly lasted 5 min
13:19:02
plowsof:
😭
13:24:46
basses:matrix.org:
You tried atomic distros? > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> Now that i think about it, I am immune to "not rebooting after kernel upgrade issues" is other ways too. My kernels have no modules. Everythink I use is built in. So even if it was nuking the modules after an update, there is no modules to nuke
13:26:05
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Non. Been gentooing since ~2003. Work fine for me
13:30:36
basses:matrix.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: it is easier to rollback and you can pin multiple snapshots
13:30:54
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I am not really into distro hoping. Did test a few other and still have one thinkcentre with Qubes but thats pretty much it. Server all run Debian or Alpine
13:31:08
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@basses:matrix.org: I do that with my gentoo
13:31:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Btrfs allow that
13:31:25
basses:matrix.org:
yeah
13:31:49
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Thing create a new snapshot of / every time I run emerge
13:32:28
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And old ones evemtually get purged
13:33:09
BlueyHealer:
basses, aye, sooner than I thought!
13:33:38
basses:matrix.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: you can pin multiple ones, and purge later (if space not an issue)
13:33:55
BlueyHealer:
Although I hope Pixels would continue just because they're way more accessible, a random reseller in a mall next door is far more likely to carry them than a random niche phone.
13:34:42
basses:matrix.org:
BlueyHealer: Pixel is a niche
13:35:21
basses:matrix.org:
BlueyHealer: this is just the announcement, device will be able to be purchased in 2027
13:35:45
BlueyHealer:
Yea, I expected the announcement closer to release
13:36:36
BlueyHealer:
Pixels are not exactly a niche. They're not sold here officially yet I see them semi-commonly on the street. Obviously most not with GOS
13:38:15
basses:matrix.org:
BlueyHealer: unfortunately
13:38:37
basses:matrix.org:
Motorola has support worldwide unlike Google
13:38:48
basses:matrix.org:
Pixel is limited to few countries
13:41:56
basses:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: Motorola is most liekly the OEM
13:42:01
basses:matrix.org:
likely*
13:43:27
BlueyHealer:
I've heard arguments against Motorola, but wouldn't mind that choice)
13:44:07
BlueyHealer:
Also yeah, my country hasn't ever had official Pixel sales. Mine is Japanese, for example. They're still semi-common, at least in my city.
13:46:04
basses:matrix.org:
BlueyHealer: yeah, being slow on updates or never updating
13:46:47
basses:matrix.org:
hopefully partnerhsip with GOS will improve that
13:51:27
basses:matrix.org:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Apple-M3-Asahi-Linux-2026
13:54:36
BlueyHealer:
wow
14:20:21
ct:xmr.mx:
maybe. But when I talk to my still-windows-user-friends, the argument "its your PC, it won't force update in the worst possible moment" makes them consider. > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> The non technical masse just want to use there computer, there not interrested into maintaining the OS. Hense the default for windows to go out of sleep during the night, update, reboot and go back to sleep
14:26:07
Cindy:
ct: the default for windows is "update while you're trying to render something"
14:34:34
BlueyHealer:
It's speaking volumes when I see so many people CHEER for their systems not receiving updates anymore.
14:38:58
plowsof:
lol
14:51:03
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Too much Windows talk, didn't know we had this many glowies in the off-topic chatroom.
14:53:13
plowsof:
nostalgia <3
14:55:12
BlueyHealer:
I am disturbed how Windows has conditioned people "updates = bad, no updates = good"
15:04:13
DataHoarder:
https://bsky.app/profile/akien.bsky.social/post/3meyerixvhs2p
15:08:00
Cindy:
slop artists
15:08:46
Cindy:
DataHoarder: i had a question for you thats not monero related
15:11:29
Cindy:
are there any programs that take FLA files and convert each library item into a SVG?
15:32:01
nioc:
iGlo
16:20:36
ct:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: a lot of things are better if done voluntary
16:21:01
BlueyHealer:
exactly
16:58:20
DataHoarder:
Cindy: format is different (bezier curves quadratic vs cubic) but it's doable
16:58:57
DataHoarder:
I do the work on swf2ass, I just never dump SVG (though I debugged that way)
16:59:35
DataHoarder:
ruffle had (has?) a SVG backend
17:00:14
DataHoarder:
there's also tools to inspect these collections, but they don't extract as much (but display)
17:52:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@ct:xmr.mx: Yeah sure, Just remember the windows 98/me/xp/7 era
17:52:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Updates where voluntary : Result, massive park of outdated computers spreading malwares. (It did not help that back then people where connected directly to internet).
17:52:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Normies don't maintain there system, there not interrested in that. They just want to use the damn thing.
17:52:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/k_iH2-cKTkMzMXFD ]
17:53:14
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The reason I have two speaker icons now, yeah, I need proper Line in control :D
17:53:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/gukDMyHCogyDygZolfSnntUz.png (clipboard.png)
17:53:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
(One control pipewire, the other control alsa)
17:57:37
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I also remember the forced update to from KDE3 to KDE4 (needed to evac to Gnome). Sure someone made Trinity but it took time and it's not really supported
17:57:37
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Then the same thing did append when Gnome 2 became Gnome 3... Evec to Enlightenment because KDE4 was still shit. Eventually Plasma 5 was out and was nice... But yeah, forcing users to relearn to use the GUI and waste time on bugged thing used to be popular on Linux.
18:00:09
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Wait non, it's still popular considering the two last kernel earlies point release 😂
18:14:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Why Plasma 6 waste real screen estate by default? Who make stupid decision on which default to force on users (if you install fresh instead of migrating from Plasma 5)
18:16:05
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Why
18:16:09
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/DjNrrgZDEgFzCFnGvDKvkbqK.png (clipboard.png)
18:21:03
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I also look at you, Firefox based shit and chrome based shit
18:21:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
That screenshot show window decoration for normal Plasma 6 window+theme, Then Firefox based, then chrome based. Why on hell it was required to waste vertical screen estate to make the title tabs bar ultra thicc
18:21:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/aDCSQuqtzCdNJVibHhrpaUSm.png (clipboard.png)
18:21:53
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And of course not following actual display layout, There only like 32 standards to follow, please just follow them all properly
18:23:22
ravfx:xmr.mx:
There is only Helium Browser, afaik, that don't enforce ultra thicc tab bar
20:24:59
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
This is the first time I see someone complaining about Plasma 6 and wanting to return to the good ol days of the infamous Plasma 5 and older. There's a first for everything.
20:26:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Main anoyance with plasma 6 is being forced to use Pipewire.
20:26:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Default sucks becuase of the wasted vertical screen space but that can be changed (and if you upgrade from 5.x you don't get that default)
21:01:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BTW, Plasma 7 will work only on wayland. And of course upgrade will be required becuase shit will stop working as usual if you don't do so. So if you want to continue to use X, you will need to relearn to use your GUI, again :)
21:01:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Linux evengilist arguing about how upgrade are better are just lying.
21:01:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
At the end it just suck in a different way.
21:28:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I think only source based distrib have real "volontary" updates.
21:28:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
One can mask new version of a packages.
21:28:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Source version history is available for most projects and keep there same location.
21:28:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/q-Sf4ecKcktWNlQw ]
23:24:24
basses:matrix.org:
Zero-day CSS: CVE-2026-2441 exists in the wildhttps://chromereleases.googleblog.com/2026/02/stable-channel-update-for-desktop_13.html
23:26:05
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: What if I'm already using Wayland like everyone else.
23:27:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: Then you don't have to care.
23:27:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
As long as you don't do evengilist work for Linux and lie to windows using that the grass is more green for false reasons
23:27:34
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
I got none of that.
23:28:30
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Elaborate.
23:29:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: just read the buffer
23:29:50
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
So what do you still use X11 for ?
23:31:14
ravfx:xmr.mx:
> Windows update and reboot while you work : -false- We are not in 2012 anymore
23:31:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
> Windows update are forced up to you while linux updates are optionel or volontary : Also false, try to install new application an outdated linux with it's own package manager... Other than Gentoo you are probably going to hit ton of 404 while pulling the package... Windows is also better on that way (can disable updates and still install everything)
23:31:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: Remote shit
23:31:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But more importantly, I was forced to use Pipewire because of Wayland dependencies
23:32:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I whink wayland use that for screencasting or something... And Plasma 6 require Wayland (even if it still work with Xorg)
23:32:27
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Last time I was with close proximity with a windows user, his laptop updated itself to 11 without asking him. I don't know if this is a hell worth dying on my friend.
23:33:28
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
So use flatpak if you want to be a weirdo like that. > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> > Windows update and reboot while you work : -false- We are not in 2012 anymore
23:34:08
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: Okay... Now what do you use whatever was before pipewire for ?
23:34:22
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: But flatpak have combined dependencies, for the shit it support, if you don't update that there is no garantie the new shit you want to install will work
23:34:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Ideally you want to keep your system up to date anyway
23:34:50
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
I can connect remotely to my PC just fine. Unless you mean a specific way of doing it. > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> Remote shit
23:34:51
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: did you hear about... Alsa???
23:34:59
ravfx:xmr.mx:
They made sound card with hardware mixer... they still exist
23:35:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
the magic with them is that you don't need sound server to play more than one stream at the same time
23:36:13
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Wow. > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> But flatpak have combined dependencies, for the shit it support, if you don't update that there is no garantie the new shit you want to install will work
23:36:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Now I'm stuck with literally two volume icon in my tray
23:36:20
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/vodJLgfXGTeFonAgyxjeVcrd.png (clipboard.png)
23:36:56
ravfx:xmr.mx:
with is required to have proper line control because I can't do it with pipewire (or I have to waste more hours into searching to implement/bypass/fix the shitter)
23:37:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
one icon for fisher price mode
23:37:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/cqoSWTHZBxHzyomZoNvJsEYf.png (clipboard.png)
23:37:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And one for adult
23:37:43
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/xZoQSbaRVWizLJNXDmZGKTwW.png (clipboard.png)
23:38:42
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
This is way out of my league. Do you use a soundcard ?
23:38:50
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The fact that Im forced to uuse fisher price mode is an anoyance, and totally invalidate "volontary update arguments shit" and "you can customize it all" because at the end they still force feed you thing
23:39:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: Yeah, Onboard card is limited to only one PCM stream at the same time. I use sound cards since they invented sound blasters
23:39:35
ravfx:xmr.mx:
and pro audio spectrums (they where better than noisy sound blasters)
23:39:45
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
It really is voluntary bro. Just because nobody else cares and wants to move on doesn't mean you can still make it happen.
23:39:51
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Most sound cards are limited to only one pcm stream (theses need pipewire)
23:40:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But I never needed and even used that shit until I was forced too
23:40:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And I lost features by doing so, forcing me to user both at the same time (because I do capture with the sound card too, not only playback)
23:41:00
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: It's not, except if you want broken shit
23:41:42
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Why not just stay at plasma 5 ?
23:41:43
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Windows is more usable than Linux (if you don't update) mainly because windows is compatible with windows, while Linux is not compatible with Linux (Dynlinks coupled with the fact that no distributions use the same libs)
23:41:56
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's EXACTLY why you need flatpaks and appimages
23:42:08
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Because Linux aint compatible with Linux
23:42:34
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Flatpak is literally Linux on Linux (you have another distribution set of libs living in your flatpacks libs)
23:42:48
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
This is like one of those dudes who still uses windows 7, but the Linux version.
23:43:12
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Because of the massive fragmentation on where you have 128 distribution and no devs have time to make packages for all the 128 of them
23:43:31
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Yeah flatpaks are cool.
23:43:40
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's called a bandaid
23:44:05
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
That's what you call it.
23:44:07
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I don't need to use flatpak fortunaly, viva Gentoo
23:44:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: Because it's what it is
23:45:03
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: Good that you found something that you do like.
23:45:04
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Hope it never gets updated...
23:45:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Download a Windows program : One file, it work
23:45:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Download a Mac program : one file, it work
23:45:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Download a Linux program, chose one of the 7 methode of installing, not that for some people, none will work
23:45:11
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Just compile it yourself
23:45:29
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Literally never happened to me.
23:45:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: lol, I compile all from source, I don't need flatpaks specifically because of that
23:45:44
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
I just open discover store, one click install.
23:45:54
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Evething get updated with a two liners
23:46:21
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
Thought you hated updates.
23:46:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And no, I don't have to wait forever, I type the command and minimize the terminal, it compile while i'm using the shit
23:46:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@pyratevevo:matrix.org: I don't, If you read the buffer you knew what I was talking about
23:47:21
pyratevevo:matrix.org:
I read it and other than the soundcard issue the rest is humours to me.
23:47:55
321bob321:
@basses:matrix.org: Like ccs ?