00:34:25
DataHoarder:
P2pool under attack? If you mean large anonymous miners joining p2pool, that is not an attack, that's a feature
00:35:50
DataHoarder:
Making smaller pools (like mini, and later nano) is the actual attack here. Smaller pools can be 51% (sidechain not Monero) and do selfish sidechain mining
00:36:10
DataHoarder:
The smaller the sidechain is the easier this can be accomplished
00:41:20
Guest92:
I have the phenomenon explained better in the proposal. The general idea is that the P2Pool chain gains enough hashrate to the point that the pool's characteristics become undesirable for the denizen miners
00:42:27
shortwavesurfer2009:
Hmmm, cant do
00:42:27
shortwavesurfer2009:
"zmq-pub=tcp://[::1]:18083"
00:42:27
shortwavesurfer2009:
for p2pool?
00:42:57
Guest92:
The phenomenon has occurred with P2Pool mini last year and there were many miners that complained and viewed it as an "attack". The visiting high hashrate miner did eventually leave.
00:58:34
shortwavesurfer2009:
https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/10274
01:10:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Pool need a fee curve.
01:10:07
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I am thinking for xmr.mx funure pool, to have 0% free from 0 to 15% global hash rate but then an exponential kick in to slowly rise up until 100% free for 50% pool global hash rate. Does that make sense? If so other pool should follow.
01:11:03
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Self regulating pool hashrate™
01:16:12
ravfx:xmr.mx:
s/free/fee/g
02:13:42
DataHoarder:
Too greedy
02:13:49
DataHoarder:
The closer it gets to 50% the more gets donated to general fund
02:22:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
That work too.
02:22:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The goal here is to get the miners to self regulate the pool hashrates
02:27:05
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Maybe medio medio (my infrastructure is not free)
02:39:25
DataHoarder:
Yeah I mean, cover your fees proportionally
02:39:47
DataHoarder:
But any extra you can push off to someone else
09:48:05
datahoarder:
👀 got a logo and stuff for https://blocks.p2pool.observer/proofs ? > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> Pool need a fee curve.
09:48:54
datahoarder:
and/or tx proofs or viewkeys :D
12:13:14
ripening:unredacted.org:
If I need to interact with DEFI on ERC20, what do you think about anonymizing tokens via railgun?
12:19:36
moneromooo:
I have no idea about what you asked, but the idea seems intriguing, albeit in the wrong way.
14:14:34
xorchi2:matrix.org:
Hello
16:54:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@datahoarder: I will provide all of that when I will have them (I just decided I will make a pool... yesterday)
17:07:54
DataHoarder:
You already got 200+ KH/s!
21:57:34
ravfx:xmr.mx:
xmr.mx now accept donations finally! : https://xmr.mx/donate.html
21:57:34
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Next step, setting up the pool!
22:23:09
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
^ who the fuck even is gonna donate to you aside from actual feds? yall already on the feds payroll
22:23:09
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
and centralized mining pool?? really?? fucking retarded shit out here, go solo mine or mine on p2pool, literal fucking psyop out here
22:23:09
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
go fuck yourself ravfx
22:23:25
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
fuck off hbs
22:23:28
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
you also a fed
22:23:29
hbs:matrix.org:
Any impact of the iranian blackout on hashrate?
22:24:06
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
you're the one that doxxed kewbit, which i thought was ofrn but it was you that did
22:24:18
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
literal chat full of literal feds out here
22:24:58
hbs:matrix.org:
nice to meet you too > <@dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org> fuck off hbs
22:25:00
nioc:
hbs network HR is currently 6.5GH/s so it doesn't seems so
22:26:09
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Is kitty ok
22:26:35
hbs:matrix.org:
nioc: Yep just checked on coinwarz, no significant change, neither for BTC
22:26:44
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Sounds like someone swapped her catnip for fentanyl
22:27:51
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Oh shit, this isnt offtopic. My bad
22:34:30
datahoarder:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: bad viewkey
22:34:52
DataHoarder:
you used the public view key
22:34:56
DataHoarder:
you need the secret view key
22:35:38
datahoarder:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/DtWlwJxDoWpwDshLWXowLXaj.png (image.png)
22:35:53
datahoarder:
You can even decode the address and find the view pubkey is indeed what you listed!
22:40:11
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
@datahoarder:monero.social: who gives a fuck, this isnt #monero-support in here, go help your feds friend on something like an actual dm or the monero-support channel
22:40:29
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
"datahoarder" how much fucking data about monero users are you hoarding?
22:41:00
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
centralized mining pools shouldnt even be endorsed
22:41:03
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
so go fuck yourself too @datahoarder:monero.social
22:41:48
datahoarder:
I have all of the data, I run Monero full nodes ofc!
22:41:52
ravfx:xmr.mx:
DataHoarder: Oh ok, going to update
22:42:02
Cindy_:
hey uhh.. kitty, is everything okay?
22:42:54
datahoarder:
Doesn't even realize I also run parts of P2Pool :)
22:43:30
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Updated.
22:43:30
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I also noticed that monero-wallet-cli ask for the secret view key.
22:43:30
ravfx:xmr.mx:
What is the point of the public view key?
22:43:52
datahoarder:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: You are not the first to make that mistake I poked a couple of people in the past :)
22:44:06
datahoarder:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: That is the address
22:44:21
datahoarder:
Address = public spend and view key (two of them)
22:44:44
datahoarder:
If you want others to see your incoming (view) you give the secret part of the view key
22:45:05
datahoarder:
If you want others to spend funds as well you then share the spend secret part (don't do this)
22:45:29
datahoarder:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: I'll check tomorrow, nice :)
22:45:31
Cindy_:
why not?
22:45:35
Cindy_:
communal wallet!
22:46:02
ofrnxmr:
Cindy_: No
22:46:17
Cindy_:
i'm joking obviously
22:46:20
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
@datahoarder:monero.social: >Doesn't even realize I also run parts of P2Pool :)
22:46:21
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
oh i do realized that, that's why i been solomining instead, hence the actual solo-mined block giveaway i did on the ccs few months ago
22:47:10
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
get fucked literal glowies that hijacked the monero hierarchy🖕
22:47:12
ofrnxmr:
3 mins ago you were telling people to p2pool mine
22:47:14
ofrnxmr:
Make your mind up
22:48:07
ofrnxmr:
According to the cat: around these parts, we only use cexs and centralized pools
22:48:29
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
i been shilling cpu-solo mining from nerva and so on way before monero even moved to randomX so stfu ofrn
22:48:29
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
wownero been delisted from cakewallet
22:48:29
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
we see the games that are being played here, yall not foolin no one
22:49:11
ofrnxmr:
Elaborate on the wownero statement
22:49:18
ofrnxmr:
Are you saying that is my fault?
22:50:01
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
wownero is forced solo-mining
22:50:01
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
it recently been delisted from cakewallet
22:50:01
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
meanwhile you out here shilling your centralized pool piece of shit
22:50:10
ofrnxmr:
Cake did that shit on their own. What does that have to do with anyone here?
22:50:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I personally use p2pool when I mine.
22:50:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The reason I'm making a new centralized pool is that it seam people love to use theses... And people asked me when xmr.mx pool will be available so... I just want to lower the ratio the other pools have to improve decentralization... But I don't want to take too much of course, hence the fee ratio that will begin to execute once it reach 15%
22:50:30
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
monero's hashrate is too big for solo-mining only so the 2nd best option is p2pool
22:50:30
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
solo-mining is still best
22:52:23
ofrnxmr:
pool mining is the same as solo mining if youre the only one on the pool 🧠
22:52:59
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: i remember you back in november when you was doing the whole "not gonna teach linux to people and shit" and being all demoralizing when some actually exciting news came out regarding linux adoption thanks to steamOS releasing an actual desktop (and VR headset) on linux
22:52:59
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
that's fucking amazing, meanwhile you a been a whole doomer "valve is shit" about that whole thing
22:52:59
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
funny thing, hbs was also in that same chat on that same day
22:52:59
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
yall feds do really stick together aint yall...
22:53:25
ofrnxmr:
Well, we ARE coworkers
22:53:50
ofrnxmr:
Why would be support you criminal vidya gamers
22:53:58
ofrnxmr:
Make it make sense
22:54:01
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
you're on feds payroll that been using the same tactics used to demoralize adoption
22:54:20
ofrnxmr:
Our goal is to destroy p2p economy and turn monero into a pet rock
22:54:39
ofrnxmr:
Why do you act so surprised
22:54:49
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org: Yeah, because evengilist are lying duh
22:54:49
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Desktop linux is full of issues it's not even funny. Tech minded people can go around them or fix eet. Normies not really, they are just going to suck more support time and at the end make extra reason to make malware for Linux (quite trivial actually)
22:55:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Gaming only yeah, sure, install a Gaming distrib and that should be OK (for the games that run that is)
22:55:42
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
it's like you're a youtuber and trynna trash talk your audience that is the one that make your channel an actual thing
22:55:43
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
yall out here being liek "nop, no videogame market"
22:55:43
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
monero is the same, the userbase is a bunch of junkies that doing whatever, mebbe even play videogames
22:55:43
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
meanwhile it's a market that is actually evading taxes since 2001, way before monero yall fucking posers hipsters wannabes
22:56:35
Cindy_:
we're not forcing people's hand and telling them "no videogame market"
22:56:39
ofrnxmr:
Video gamers are the only ones that make monero a thing? TIL
22:56:50
Cindy_:
we're not the government of a country and we did not ban video games from using monero
22:57:19
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
Cindy_: go back to the ccs, that was asking literally only 10 xmr
22:57:37
ofrnxmr:
10xmr for 2000 words of rambling nonsense
22:58:19
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
i provided 187 hours of work back in october, from my own expenses
22:58:19
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
am going to 0 xmr just to prove a point i dont even give a fuck
22:58:46
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
meanwhile u got paid 1600 xmr for what? LMAO
22:58:48
ofrnxmr:
187 of doing what? Playing games?
22:59:08
Cindy_:
people start markets up with literally nothing
22:59:15
Cindy_:
no funding
22:59:36
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
you think it's "playing games"?
22:59:36
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
it's literal work that makes you want to kill yourself doing the actual work
22:59:38
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
it not playing games
22:59:41
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
there is no fun in that
22:59:48
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
and i would rather do literally anything else than that
22:59:51
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
but no one else is doing it
23:00:31
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
Cindy_: so why ofrn got paid 1600xmr for some literal bullshit and is gatekeeping just 10xmr?
23:00:53
ofrnxmr:
an atomicswap dex is literal bullshit?
23:00:55
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
that wasnt asking much
23:01:07
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
your work was literal bullshit
23:01:09
ofrnxmr:
You closed your own ccs, kitty
23:01:37
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
ok so imma reopen it then
23:02:07
datahoarder:
So how many ban evasions so far from the 30d plowsof one?
23:02:37
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
oh btw, my thread on the videogaming forum was deleted
23:02:41
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
so i guess congratz
23:02:44
ofrnxmr:
1 from the 30 day one, like 12more since then
23:02:48
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
i guess that was your goal
23:02:56
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
i served my 2x 30days ban over there
23:02:59
ofrnxmr:
Is that somehow my fault? > <@dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org> oh btw, my thread on the videogaming forum was deleted
23:03:24
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
you influenced the outcome, sure
23:03:33
ofrnxmr:
Ive viewed your 40 page echo chamber maybe once
23:03:37
ofrnxmr:
It getting deleting must have been tour own doing
23:03:40
ofrnxmr:
Your*
23:04:06
LibDem:
deleted*
23:04:20
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
it has been deleted for my own safety
23:04:26
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
because yall glowie ass
23:04:29
ofrnxmr:
Explain?
23:04:46
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
oh yeah, lemme doxx myself some more lmao
23:04:50
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
fuck off fed
23:05:00
ofrnxmr:
You already told diego your name, didn't you?
23:05:16
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
he knew my name already
23:05:27
ofrnxmr:
(You doxxed yourself w/o anyone asking)
23:05:29
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
pretended he didnt
23:05:30
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
but he did
23:05:32
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
last name too
23:05:38
ofrnxmr:
You told him in public
23:05:46
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
sgp also knows my name btw
23:06:03
ofrnxmr:
hard to remember every any that you step on ig
23:06:05
ofrnxmr:
Ant*
23:07:02
plowsof:
Reset the 30 day ban to 0.5 days to 0
23:07:05
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
you have no place in this community if you have no understanding that even doxxing a username is a big deal
23:07:21
ofrnxmr:
you dox your own usernames
23:07:23
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
same goes for you plowsof
23:07:33
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
nah, u keep doing it
23:07:52
ofrnxmr:
you dont even try to hide, its obvious to any idiot that youre the same kitten
23:08:56
ofrnxmr:
Might as well make your handle "024yttikecaps" and hope nobody notices , then blame anyone who doesnt play dumb
23:09:07
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
am working on that 1 thing, a market that i see value in
23:09:07
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
is there any one else working on that 1 thing? not to my knowledge
23:09:07
dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org:
that's what will keep doxxing me, but you will keep doxxing the usernames regardless
23:11:26
dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org:
@plowsof:matrix.org: u forgot that one retard
23:12:04
ofrnxmr:
Why r u doxxing yourself
23:12:18
dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org:
because you will keep doxxing anyways
23:12:29
ofrnxmr:
Nobody would have guessed that "dumb_of_ass" was "dumb_of_ass."
23:13:03
dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org:
haveno is a thing, you clearly been against it
23:13:03
dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org:
many people been against it from the start
23:13:03
dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org:
doxxing people is in your interest
23:13:26
plowsof:matrix.org:
@dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org: thanks