00:06:51 321bob321: https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1q6m8fp/removed_by_moderator/
00:06:51 321bob321: Lol
00:18:17 plowsof: "Removed all the emojis, and source added." :D
00:28:29 321bob321: https://donate.magicgrants.org/monero/projects/fuzzing-monero-2
00:28:29 321bob321: Speaking of AI @monero isnt excited anymore ?
00:32:00 plowsof:matrix.org: the last 'we're excited' tweet was november 2025, make the excitement exciting again !
02:35:00 321bob321: https://youtu.be/aACp252xx9g
02:35:00 321bob321: @nioc
02:38:07 nioc: what
02:38:23 nioc: Cat is not impressed
11:01:08 monerobull:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/rxcmTDgbIHNqrKdQWtggDPRC.png (image.png)
11:01:09 monerobull:matrix.org: lol
11:05:19 hooftly:matrix.org: That means the team were so opposed to something they all left lol... gee wonder what that could be 🕵️
11:13:23 monerobull:matrix.org: it says its about compensation
11:16:53 BlueyHealer: But in all seriousness - what happened?
11:19:14 monerobull:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/yHRxsHHDoVtGqUtTSHJPlZIC.png (image.png)
11:19:53 monerobull:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/BYdrweHTznDOjnbtPYrYRyeM.png (image.png)
11:20:17 sech1: Bro asking the real question :D
11:20:44 imprevisto:matrix.org: I have good info on this but it's probably worthless to people in here
11:32:57 monerobull:matrix.org: > Over recent weeks, the board engaged in discussions regarding external investment and alternative structures to privatize Zashi, while working with legal counsel to ensure any path forward would comply with U.S. nonprofit law, remain consistent with the long-term mission of Zcash, and not jeopardize the broader Zcash community.
11:32:57 monerobull:matrix.org: There is nothing wrong with for-profits,
11:33:22 monerobull:matrix.org: > We do not doubt that those who proposed this transaction believed it was the right path forward for Zcash. They were following norms that are standard among tech startups. Their commitment to the project is real, and their frustration with the constraints of nonprofit governance is understandable. But good intentions do not [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/3LKHt9oKeU50cF9t ]
11:33:24 monerobull:matrix.org: hilarious
11:36:00 monerobull:matrix.org: so the devs were like "we need to take this private and for profit"
11:36:17 monerobull:matrix.org: and the board was like "brother we are a registered non profit, it doesnt work like that"
11:36:24 monerobull:matrix.org: and then the whole team quit?
11:36:27 monerobull:matrix.org: am i getting this right?
11:36:56 hooftly:matrix.org: Hah if thats the case I had it backwards and devs are the bad actors gross
11:42:21 imprevisto:matrix.org: I think you're close monerobull.
12:05:11 321bob321: Wtf is constructivly discharged mean
12:05:18 321bob321: Sounds like a medical term
12:06:56 imprevisto:matrix.org: that's like if I was your boss and made it your job to politely respond to AI slop PRs all day or something intolerable
12:07:55 321bob321: Sounds like plowsof job
12:08:56 Cindy_: sounds like any open source maintainers' job
12:09:41 321bob321: So where did the dev tax go then?
12:12:31 plowsof: Thank you for your contribution and interest in our project and this here repository. It is with deep regret that I must inform you that our staff members are experiencing a heavy work load at the moment, and would kindly ask you to temporarily close this PR until such a time that our staff members are available to tend to this PR. Please reach
12:12:31 plowsof: out to me personally on all my publicly listed contacts and we can schedule daily meetings where i can share updates on our staffs availability
12:12:40 imprevisto:matrix.org: the reticulum lead dev made a bot to respond to people asking to change the license and it was funny as hell
12:13:05 imprevisto:matrix.org: like it was a huge LLM and went on and on
12:14:04 imprevisto:matrix.org: let me see if I can find a link I think you guys would appeciate
12:14:40 plowsof: the truth may scare you, this is why i only ask 5 seconds of your time to research open source licensing
12:15:36 321bob321: I will constructively discharge on you
12:17:20 imprevisto:matrix.org: https://github.com/markqvist/Reticulum/discussions/790#discussioncomment-15300820
12:19:24 Cindy_: guys
12:19:37 Cindy_: what if, you use an AI to respond to an AI slop PR
12:19:58 Cindy_: like put in as much effort as the person who made the PR
12:20:11 imprevisto:matrix.org: taps link
12:22:44 Cindy_: personally i'd like to do the same with that bear guy lol
12:23:20 imprevisto:matrix.org: you could see about hosting your own Entitlement Exterminator
12:25:12 Cindy_: more like just to waste the time of people who make AI slop PRs
12:35:30 321bob321: It would have to monitor all prs to know which is ai slop
12:41:54 gan:skhron.org: Everything goes according to the plan, the internet is dead and it's we who killed it > <Cindy_> what if, you use an AI to respond to an AI slop PR
13:11:29 imprevisto:matrix.org: you could drone first and ask questions later
13:11:39 imprevisto:matrix.org: the questions would be AI generated too, naturally
20:09:46 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org are you a communist?
20:20:59 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Whats it to ya
20:22:07 Cindy_: muh patriotic
20:22:18 Cindy_: muh trump, we are charlie kirk we carry the flame
20:25:10 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Id rather be erika
20:25:36 Cindy_: we carry the gospel or some crap
20:30:42 LibDem: you didnt vote for trump Cindy_ ?
20:31:37 Cindy_: oh my god, holy shit!
20:31:42 Cindy_: i thought everyone here was a trump voter
20:32:05 Cindy_: it cannot be!
20:32:57 BlueyHealer: So... You are implying you had a part in what's happening?
20:33:19 LibDem: what about you BlueyHealer - did you vote for trump?
20:34:12 BlueyHealer: I am not even in the US lol
20:34:16 BlueyHealer: I wouldn't have
20:34:44 LibDem: did you vote for putin?
20:35:36 Cindy_: BlueyHealer: no, i'm just joking :P
20:35:45 Cindy_: i'm not in the US either and i wouldn't have voted for him even if i was
20:35:55 BlueyHealer: Cindy_, that was not to you lol, that was to the guy
20:35:58 Cindy_: ah
20:36:19 BlueyHealer: I didn't vote in general
20:37:46 LibDem: do you roleplay as Russian BlueyHealer or am I misremembering?
20:38:30 Cindy_: i thought trump loves russa
20:38:31 Cindy_: russia*
20:38:40 BlueyHealer: I am starting to sense from your tone that you're a troll. Ignoring.
20:38:48 LibDem: LMAO
20:38:58 LibDem: retarded asset pretending to be offended. Priceless
20:39:34 LibDem: Cindy_ you are so perceptive. Trump loves russia that's why he's trying to destroy it.
20:39:57 BlueyHealer: I never expressed being offended though?.. Just got the sensation that a user just wanted negative interactions because they have nothing better to do.
20:40:08 Cindy_: nah trump loves russia that's why he bends ove for putin :P
20:40:29 LibDem: right, that's why trump tried to drone putin last week
20:40:55 LibDem: and first thing trump did a year was cut supplies to the ukronazis.
20:41:00 LibDem: a year ago*
20:41:24 ofrnxmr: I only ever vote for ofrnxmr > <Cindy_> i thought everyone here was a trump voter
20:41:43 BlueyHealer: (also larp, lol. If I were to larp, I'd larp as a Japanese)
20:42:17 Cindy_: LibDem: you are hilarious
20:42:31 LibDem: but I can't even start to compete with you "cindy"
20:42:38 gan:skhron.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: Depends on your views, probably yes - I'm a classical egoist with technological tendencies, but I draw heavily from Mutualism/Classical Anarchism by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon and Anarcho-communism (i.e., real libertarianism) from Mikhail Bakunin to Emma Goldman and Peter Kropotkin as examples
20:42:47 Cindy_: uh oh
20:42:52 Cindy_: we got a Juliu 2.0 here
20:43:09 LibDem: that's one of your coworkers "cindy"
20:43:16 Cindy_: pffft hahaha
20:43:18 Cindy_: alright buddy
20:43:41 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: "real libertarianism" bruh
20:44:43 BlueyHealer: I did unmute Juliu from time to time only to realize once again he was more annoying than amusing, I guess it's the same here
20:44:50 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: i went back to study recently, i was depressed and stoped to study but estou voltando
20:45:02 hopeful26:unredacted.org: wanna join my study group?
20:45:03 gan:skhron.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: I mean, you're free to look at the etymological source of that word before it was corrupted by Americans
20:45:12 gan:skhron.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: Nah, I'm fine as it is
20:45:13 Cindy_: Juliu is so famous that he got clones now
20:45:43 Cindy_: you can K-Line Juliu, but you can never K-Line the collective mentality
20:45:43 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: :(
20:45:45 LibDem: I've been here before juliu showed up "cindy"
20:45:52 gan:skhron.org: Who the fuck is Juliu?
20:46:17 gan:skhron.org: Cindy_: Resistance is futile
20:46:41 LibDem: I've been here before you showed up too "cindy"
20:46:52 Cindy_: wow, that's great
20:46:54 Cindy_: have a medal
20:48:16 gan:skhron.org: What
20:48:29 hopeful26:unredacted.org: I need to lear English
20:48:40 gan:skhron.org: Sorry, I'm not a consumer of fent, at least, not yet
20:48:40 hopeful26:unredacted.org: who can help me?
20:51:43 Cindy_: wellllll.. i heard talking can help!
20:52:30 gan:skhron.org: To be fair, it's a lot more easier to read English rather than speaking it
20:52:43 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: yes
20:53:04 hopeful26:unredacted.org: i can read very well but my writing is a shit
20:53:39 Cindy_: y'know i learnt english by engaging in conversation and learning from how they talk
20:53:52 gan:skhron.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: Could be a case of semi-receptive multilingualism 🧌
20:53:56 hopeful26:unredacted.org: Cindy_: it is what i want
20:54:01 hopeful26:unredacted.org: someone to talk
20:54:09 hopeful26:unredacted.org: more people to talk in English
20:54:27 hopeful26:unredacted.org: Cindy_: it is what i want
20:54:43 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: what is this?
20:56:24 gan:skhron.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: that's a [social] condition when a person can understand a language but may have limited ability to speak it
20:57:05 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: i praticted much more reading than writing
20:57:11 hopeful26:unredacted.org: and more less talking
20:57:36 hopeful26:unredacted.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/unredacted.org/bImFTNGcImPwORZKVoEgkgDU.ogg (recording1767905869459688.ogg)
21:02:57 dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/AGvfipxiyGdCRWDADUsMLhWV.png (image.png)
21:03:38 Cindy_: julius is pure of heart
21:03:44 Cindy_: juliu however, is not pure of heart
21:04:19 dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org: @gan:skhron.org: > To be fair, it's a lot more easier to read English rather than speaking it
21:04:22 dumb_of_ass.:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/QIkrNFtrlcThwvnvniHAhYpP.png (image.png)
21:18:18 nioc: it's easier to read any language than it is to speak it
21:18:30 nioc: also easier than to write it
21:20:26 gan:skhron.org: I'm happy that I don't see mentally deficient morggers
21:45:16 321bob321: Juliu is an ideology > <Cindy_> you can K-Line Juliu, but you can never K-Line the collective mentality
21:48:59 gan:skhron.org: I'm out of my depth
21:58:29 dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: retarded gatekeeping out here
21:58:29 dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org: all it does is like, making users more fingerprintable
21:58:29 dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org: or like if using xmr[dot]mx or whatever it is, to show allegiance to the feds (ravfx that is using demoralization tactics, ofrn [...])
21:58:29 dumb_of_ass:unredacted.org: which they'll even have their own glowie centralized pool apparently, how fucking retarded is this lol
22:00:22 hopeful26:unredacted.org: wtf
22:00:26 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: @ravfx:xmr.mx shots fired
22:01:13 ofrnxmr: @hopeful26:unredacted.org dont mind spacekitty. drugs
22:01:14 gan:skhron.org: The life is much easier when you just ignore morggers
22:01:14 hopeful26:unredacted.org: nobody wanna help me lear english?
22:01:38 ofrnxmr: Whatever you do, dont learn from kitty
22:01:45 ofrnxmr: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: Your english seems fine
22:02:10 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @ofrnxmr: no, its terrible, i speak like a retard
22:02:13 ravfx:xmr.mx: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Noticed
22:02:14 ravfx:xmr.mx: 1 - Join the room
22:02:14 ravfx:xmr.mx: 2 - kya kya kya
22:02:14 ravfx:xmr.mx: 3 - leave the room
22:02:14 ravfx:xmr.mx: [... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/obCGydoKUjBtdGZG ]
22:02:25 ofrnxmr: @ravfx:xmr.mx: Its spacekitty
22:02:38 ofrnxmr: From account # like.. 25 by now
22:03:11 hopeful26:unredacted.org: who you all are reanding now?
22:03:35 hopeful26:unredacted.org: i am reanding Man, Economy and State de Murray Rothbard
22:03:57 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I don't read books
22:04:07 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: leftist?
22:04:20 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: No
22:04:32 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: why you dont read books?
22:04:36 Cindy_: hopeful26: it's "reading" and "learning"
22:04:41 gan:skhron.org: Eh, last thing I've read was The Company Store Contract by Robert Silverberg [fiction]
22:04:42 Cindy_: we read, we learn
22:04:58 hopeful26:unredacted.org: Cindy_: i am not understanding
22:05:10 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @gan:skhron.org: what is about?
22:05:46 hopeful26:unredacted.org: i back to read a little while a go and i am dumb but i will change
22:05:59 hopeful26:unredacted.org: i dont even know english
22:06:10 Cindy_: no no, you're doing pretty well
22:06:15 Cindy_: just needs a bit of work
22:06:29 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Seriously. Better than spacekitty
22:06:43 gan:skhron.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: About the colonist who was wronged because of unfair contractual obligations
22:08:36 gan:skhron.org: the text is itself is short in the spirit of old sci-fi texts (e.g., Issac Asimov - I, Robot, Harlan Ellison - I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream, ect)
22:10:05 Cindy_: hopeful26: if you keep trying, i'm sure you'll get better, and better!
22:10:23 gan:skhron.org: My readings from the anarchist library ain't that interesting
22:10:30 Cindy_: we're not born knowing english, after all
22:11:37 gan:skhron.org: Well, nobody is born with a language embedded into their psyche to be fair
22:20:26 nioc: I am fluent in cat
22:22:09 Cindy_: i hate having to write PDF opcodes to generate a document
22:22:24 Cindy_: how do people deal with this
23:42:58 hopeful26:unredacted.org: thanks. > <Cindy_> hopeful26: if you keep trying, i'm sure you'll get better, and better!
23:43:56 hopeful26:unredacted.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/unredacted.org/caGuriXxYGiLBthASnCkXRRh.jpg (2026-01-08-17-26-57-391.jpg)
23:44:08 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: estou fazendo esse
23:44:15 hopeful26:unredacted.org: puzzles in english
23:44:28 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: i am making this*
23:48:35 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: i dont know if this phrase is correct in english, but what i say is i am playing puzzle games in english
23:49:46 hopeful26:unredacted.org: someone here had discouragement or depression?
23:50:36 hopeful26:unredacted.org: A strange thing in english is not have plural of "you"
23:50:58 hopeful26:unredacted.org: i heard a can use "you all" isted
23:51:05 shitpost:monero.coffee: yous
23:51:45 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @shitpost:monero.coffee: in português we have "vocês"
23:51:45 hopeful26:unredacted.org: sungular: você
23:51:45 hopeful26:unredacted.org: plural: vocês
23:56:33 ofrnxmr: @hopeful26:unredacted.org: Y'all