00:08:36
DataHoarder:
FYI. Due to spam wave I have disabled bridges for ~5h due to relapses.
09:21:35
jueyy:matrix.org:
How do i buy monero p2p?
09:21:46
jueyy:matrix.org:
Anon?
11:56:37
octavian:
Anyone knows what's up with the hashrate? Confirmations taking 2x time for some reason
12:09:12
anything21:matrix.org:
octavian: It's normal. Sometimes it takes longer, sometimes it takes less.
12:14:10
octavian:
Got it, thanks
15:07:13
falleninfernal:matrix.org:
Where do I discuss monero bounties?
15:20:19
ofrnxmr:
#monero-bounties:monero.social
17:01:14
ufo808:matrix.org:
why this post got deleted from monero subreddit? https://kappa.lol/ucrkPo
17:01:43
ufo808:matrix.org:
I think it's interesting news for monero
17:02:10
Cindy_:
because it sounded like spam
17:02:28
ufo808:matrix.org:
Cindy_: I guess so
17:06:02
Cindy_:
try getting rid of the last sentence
17:06:13
Cindy_:
or how about just post nothing but the headline and link
17:06:29
ufo808:matrix.org:
good idea
17:08:56
ufo808:matrix.org:
it worked Cindy
17:09:14
DataHoarder:
https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-historic-private-donations
17:10:14
ufo808:matrix.org:
DataHoarder: yep I just posted it to monero subreddit btw
17:10:19
ufo808:matrix.org:
nice christmas gift
17:10:26
DataHoarder:
yes. so people can get it here as well
17:12:36
ravfx:xmr.mx:
does not even load for me
17:13:54
sbt:nope.chat:
DataHoarder: repost? https://matrix.to/#/!eBgZCVRnRRkKchiYzS:monero.social/$ZKV3WxFDR0BDqPtz_p_sN_uirogP3Od_KftL0qbMnUc?via=matrix.org&via=monero.social&via=nope.chat
17:14:23
DataHoarder:
lol it's in between the several thousand of spam messages
17:14:39
DataHoarder:
yeah. I was trying to re-post what was in the reddit image
17:30:55
Cindy_:
ufo808: where?
17:31:01
Cindy_:
i can't find the post you sent
17:31:47
stormyyy:stormyyy.xyz:
DataHoarder: what spam
17:32:08
DataHoarder:
https://libera.monerologs.net/monero/20251224#c629431
17:32:12
Cindy_:
stormyyy: libera spam from yesterday
17:32:14
DataHoarder:
it was less worse here than in other channels
17:32:25
DataHoarder:
it was cleaned from matrix mostly
17:33:25
Cindy_:
DataHoarder: you missed the fake libera announcement above
17:33:31
datahoarder:
no
17:33:38
datahoarder:
those even made it onto libera channels
17:33:41
Cindy_:
yes
17:33:44
datahoarder:
just not the spammy part
17:34:00
Cindy_:
fun fact: the guy who made that fake libera announcement spam talked here before
17:34:09
Cindy_:
their alts were K-lined
17:36:46
Cindy_:
https://libera.monerologs.net/monero/20251004#c596559
17:38:18
Cindy_:
one of his alts ^
18:30:48
martin.monero:matrix.org:
Hi all, what’s the easiest way to buy Monero right now? Any suggestions?
18:30:59
Cindy_:
on haveno retoswap
18:31:12
Cindy_:
if you want the easiest EASIEST way, CEX is
18:31:27
Cindy_:
but that's KYC mostly
18:31:38
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@martin.monero:matrix.org: Eigenwallet or Trocador if you already have crypto
18:36:34
BlueyHealer:
Cindy_, or KYC exchange for BTC/LTC, then swap it, that's more widely available.
18:37:09
Cindy_:
i actually have a question related to this
18:37:21
Cindy_:
there are services that convert cryptocurrencies to fiat for you
18:37:28
Cindy_:
but are there services that do vice-versa?
18:37:37
Cindy_:
for accepting fiat
18:38:25
BlueyHealer:
What are the examples of what you're talking about?
18:39:20
BlueyHealer:
In general, I just get the impression that the seller is always supposed to get at least less anonymity and privacy than the buyer.
18:40:15
Cindy_:
BlueyHealer: y'know how companies accept cryptocurrency donations
18:40:26
Cindy_:
they use a intermediate that converts crypto to fiat
18:41:49
martin.monero:matrix.org:
Monero isn’t available on CEX.IO (https://cex.io/buy-monero-xmr
18:41:49
martin.monero:matrix.org:
).
18:41:49
martin.monero:matrix.org:
I’ll check other options:
18:41:49
martin.monero:matrix.org:
https://trocador.app/en/[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/1a3DgtYKdFpGZVpB ]
18:42:02
BlueyHealer:
Yeah, but the one that accepts the converted things has to get KYCd, no?
18:42:21
Cindy_:
yes
18:43:35
BlueyHealer:
IDK that just feels wrong on some level
18:43:49
Cindy_:
but this shouldn't be KYCd :P
18:43:56
Cindy_:
because it's fiat to crypto
18:47:26
BlueyHealer:
Ah, I realized at least one asymmetrical thing I was feeling off about: chargebacks. Like, if a payer decides to do one, the middleman would have no way of providing one. When the buyer is the one handling crypto, this wouldn't be something that can happen.
18:55:07
snake:
i think it's worth looking into whether that could be disputed or not. i know some chargebacks can be disputed. and if a user donates, it gets converted into crypto, it's paid to the person accepting that donation or whatever, then there might be a way to dispute their chargeback since details on the delivery and agreements could be provided
18:55:50
Cindy_:
BlueyHealer: obviously if you do a chargeback, you're a dick
18:55:57
kowalabearhugs_:
The donors wish to remain anonymous :) https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-historic-private-donations
18:56:13
Cindy_:
usually people who do chargebacks on a donations are those who want the clout and credit but none of the money to spend on it
18:56:37
Cindy_:
(except those who had their credit card stolen or something)
18:58:08
niyid:matrix.org:
Hi everyone 👋
18:58:08
niyid:matrix.org:
I’ve released an Android Monero wallet app.
18:58:08
niyid:matrix.org:
[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/oqP_gtYKSzF3Y0ls ]
18:59:27
Cindy_:
"License: [Add your license here]"
19:00:03
stormyyy:stormyyy.xyz:
@niyid:matrix.org: care to use more whitespace?
19:01:07
BlueyHealer:
Cindy_, not denying. My point was not on the lack of morality, but rather on how it would be a headache for the middleman and no one wants that.
19:01:26
Cindy_:
your app is literally a modified version of https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet
19:01:34
Cindy_:
which btw, you didn't even change the java class names on
19:01:53
BlueyHealer:
XD
19:02:26
BlueyHealer:
kowalabearhugs, a Christmas miracle!
19:02:28
Cindy_:
there's two directories in the src directory
19:03:05
Cindy_:
https://github.com/niyid/apo/blob/main/app/src/main/java/com/techducat/apo/ApoApp.kt
19:03:10
Cindy_:
hardcoded bugfender API key
19:03:40
Cindy_:
"enableUIEventLogging(this)"
19:04:02
niyid:matrix.org:
Thanks a lot! I will make those updates. I don't use BugFender anymore
19:05:12
Cindy_:
https://github.com/niyid/apo/blob/main/gradle.properties
19:05:16
Cindy_:
chagenow API key here
19:06:16
niyid:matrix.org:
I'm yet to integrate ChangeNOW.
19:06:24
gan:skhron.org:
"AI" slop, everything was probably hallucinated
19:06:51
Cindy_:
but why leave your API key here
19:07:20
gan:skhron.org:
stolen email too
19:07:54
gan:skhron.org:
neeyeed[at]gmail.com is located in around 14 data Breaches
19:08:24
niyid:matrix.org:
It's not a real API key. That has not yet been handled.
19:08:33
niyid:matrix.org:
https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/pull/1013
19:09:49
Cindy_:
you should probably make it more clear that it's a fork of m2049r's xmrwallet
19:09:49
Cindy_:
i wouldn't care if that project's code was like.. a minority in yours
19:09:49
Cindy_:
but rn, it's about 98% of your project
19:09:49
gan:skhron.org:
> This build was entirely fashioned by Claude Sonnet 4.5 and I merely guided it. I want that piece of information noted.
19:09:49
Cindy_:
niyid: this is a really bad PR, ngl
19:09:50
gan:skhron.org:
mental disability of severe form
19:10:08
Cindy_:
first of all, you made a lot of things that are out of scope of the PR (which is trying to build based on a newer version of NDK and boost
19:10:14
Cindy_:
like adding a CONTRIBUTORS.MD file
19:10:22
Cindy_:
and also... why did you include your build directory
19:10:25
gan:skhron.org:
And please do redeem too
19:10:43
Cindy_:
https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/pull/1013/files#diff-02113b008dcd859e834e8f7b3d3de232168496f8bc8e11a32857790e345b05eb
19:10:48
Cindy_:
what tf is this qr code
19:11:25
Cindy_:
a random QR code just sitting there
19:11:48
niyid:matrix.org:
LOL @ stolen email
19:11:57
plowsof:
Same story here https://bounties.monero.social/posts/24/10-233m-upgrade-monero-integration-to-support-odoo-15 https://github.com/monero-integrations/moneroodoo/pull/19 (merge was reverted)
19:12:16
Cindy_:
okay i just decoded the QR code
19:12:21
Cindy_:
it's.... your wallet address
19:12:33
Cindy_:
why did you put your own wallet address in someone else's project, that sounds kinda rude
19:12:47
gan:skhron.org:
plowsof: the latter is such a fucking yap
19:13:12
Cindy_:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/1be353833d1dadabaa196f754be3291437621d72/monero_wallet.png
19:13:20
Cindy_:
this is the QR code i'm referring to in the PR (monero_wallet.png)
19:13:24
plowsof:
Merry christmas 🌲
19:13:55
gan:skhron.org:
Merry scanmas
19:14:28
Cindy_:
when i contribute to a monero project, i don't just sneak a QR code of my wallet in the project :P
19:14:35
Cindy_:
and hope they don't see it in the PR
19:14:43
gan:skhron.org:
scammas*
19:16:41
Cindy_:
also why do you keep force-pushing
23:12:40
basses:matrix.org:
need to be reported on playstore > <@niyid:matrix.org> Hi everyone 👋
23:17:30
Cindy_:
basses: who will even find it
23:17:43
Cindy_:
the name and picture has nothing to do with monero, people will think it's junk
23:33:55
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@basses:matrix.org: Play store is full of garbage anyway (i doubt they care)