16:53:12
niyid:matrix.org:
Hi everyone 👋
16:53:12
niyid:matrix.org:
I’ve released an Android Monero wallet app focused on privacy, simplicity, and real-world usability, built with the Monero ethos in mind.
16:53:12
niyid:matrix.org:
📱 Google Play:[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/1d21_9UKM2p5OGRY ]
16:54:25
syntheticbird:
@niyid:matrix.org: At the risk of breaking your hopes, you can be sure that no one here is gonna attempt installing a private application made by a random guy
16:54:34
syntheticbird:
source code is bare minimum
16:58:31
niyid:matrix.org:
https://github.com/niyid/apo
17:06:50
syntheticbird:
thx
17:06:58
syntheticbird:
huh
17:07:00
syntheticbird:
404
17:07:28
syntheticbird:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/NfXIgGttIYNrLVBFfXEdHCtD.png (image.png)
17:08:25
niyid:matrix.org:
Oh private I guess
17:09:34
DataHoarder:
https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-receives-historic-private-donations
17:10:18
niyid:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: Apologies. Try again
17:11:54
syntheticbird:
DataHoarder: Can they let the fsf die already
17:14:36
nioc:
The connection was refused when attempting to contact www.fsf.org.
17:15:53
DataHoarder:
it's probably IPv6 :')
17:18:59
syntheticbird:
IPv6 is a backdoor
18:04:57
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@niyid:matrix.org: https://github.com/niyid/apo/commit/d3ada792a00294c97bcdcda8586a75f7faff5e3a
18:04:57
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
beautiful 40k lines of unreviewable code
18:06:34
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Looks to be a monerujo fork of some sort
18:09:35
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Brought to you by claude
18:10:04
niyid:matrix.org:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Thanks. Yes it used an improved xmrwallet library build.
18:14:07
niyid:matrix.org:
https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/compare/master...niyid:xmrwallet:master
18:18:12
plowsof:
ofrnxmr Good catch! Would you like me to add monerujo as a submodule and build upon it?
18:18:51
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
no. Just make a 40k line initial commit then let claude go to town
18:19:03
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Make sure to commit the instructions as well
18:19:28
plowsof:
Wow, i like your direct - to the point approach!
18:19:41
plowsof:
Bdhxhdhsjxhdjdbdhdjddhdjn
18:20:18
niyid:matrix.org:
😁
18:21:57
niyid:matrix.org:
It was a POC to demonstrate that AI actually develops more robust code than human developers. Apologies if this touches the ego.
18:23:16
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
It's christmas, not halloween or april fools
18:23:58
niyid:matrix.org:
😁
18:24:08
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Last i checked, a lot of this code was written by humans ~8 years ago
18:25:16
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Adding slop on top of hard work != more robust. Its just adding slop on top of hard work
18:26:07
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Were some improvements made? Perhaps. It is reviewable? Barely, which tells me that you havent reviewed it either
18:26:37
plowsof:
Contemplating response 🧠 .... Please upgrade to premium if you want more fixes. Would you like me to type out a reddit post and marketing strategy instead?
18:26:49
niyid:matrix.org:
Yes. Foundation is always needed. It fixed a lot of memory leaks. That was the weakest part. Lots and lots of memory leaks.
18:27:09
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
So how can it be more robust, if its indecipherable? By trusting and assuming that no mistakes were made? Just because claude was prompted not to upload wallet files?
18:27:34
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@niyid:matrix.org: I dont recall ever seeing a memory leak in monerujo or monfluo, period
18:27:45
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Sounds like hallucinated memory leaks
18:28:14
plowsof:
Claude did you lie or embelish any of the memory leaks you fixed? Yes! You're absolutely correct
18:28:54
plowsof:
Sorry, would you like me to re add the memory leaks i never fixed and rewrite monero c in rust?
18:29:57
rbrunner7:
Does that m2049r library diff really show tons and tons of generated build related files as part of the "source" in GitHub?
18:30:22
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
I don't see any commits regarding memory leaks either (?)
18:32:07
datahoarder:
@niyid:matrix.org: https://stopslopware.net/
18:32:12
datahoarder:
Specially in the context of Monero
18:32:26
datahoarder:
It gets cryptography really bad and will 100% end up in losing all funds
18:32:52
datahoarder:
Cryptography is not "glue code" that an autocomplete would get most of the time
18:33:57
datahoarder:
It's less ego, instead it's reckless to attempt for this. Let it have a go at the UI so the worst that can happen is users end up with 5fps blob
18:34:04
niyid:matrix.org:
https://github.com/m2049r/xmrwallet/pull/1013#issuecomment-3660135382
18:34:52
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
LMFAO
18:34:54
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
wtf kinda pr is this
18:34:57
plowsof:
Sorry if that touches your ego, lies and bad crypto are of no issue if it builds /s
18:35:17
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
970 commits squashes into 1 💀💀💀💀
18:35:58
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
970 commits 😂 to fkn change a dependcy?
18:36:37
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
"based on ndk29 and boose 1.81 = 970 commits ans 24k lines of code"
18:38:20
rbrunner7:
I blame "AI" and the companies that build "AI" that give people the impression that it enables them to build something like a Monero wallet. It's terrible, and cruel, like we can see here live, in Panavision and Technicolor.
18:38:38
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/nvpnDFHpvXawOxFIWsHevQBN.png (share_1278434191811564718.png)
18:39:25
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
You dont even look at the fkn slop, but expect other people to?
18:40:08
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
This is literally in the 2nd file listed
18:40:17
niyid:matrix.org:
Oh, that was an unnecessary doc that I generated with a script myself. Easily deleted file. 😄
18:40:35
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
2nd out of 139
18:41:37
niyid:matrix.org:
That was generated by a Python script which I ran by hand. Totally irrelevant file.
18:41:53
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
So why is it there
18:42:33
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
The pr is to "use ndk29 and boost 1.81" yet there are 139 filed ans 24k lines of code ?
18:44:58
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Anyway, merry christmas
18:46:38
niyid:matrix.org:
🤣
18:48:37
ofrnxmr:
I'm trying not to laugh, bcuz its christmas and laughing would be rude
18:49:14
ofrnxmr:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Care to explain this?
18:49:52
ofrnxmr:
Or is this just a consequence of sending a pr from your master branch, and fkn up the history?
19:34:54
4rkal:
https://cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero/issue-16
19:35:30
4rkal:
Merry Christmas from CypherGoat, wishing everyone good health and warm moments with the people you care about. Take care of yourselves and each other!
21:10:04
n1oc:
[CCS Proposals] acx acx opened merge request #635: acx part-time work on Monfluo 2026Q1 https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/635
22:59:51
0xfffc:
Has anyone seen Luigi recently?
23:00:48
plowsof:
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/tree/master
23:02:25
0xfffc:
Ah, great 17 hours ago he was active. IRC shows he was not active past few days. IRC misled me :)
23:02:31
0xfffc:
Thanks plow