00:14:19 DataHoarder: Now ravfx that is what an impostor would claim
00:21:40 ravfx:xmr.mx: DataHoarder: only if it take over xmr.mx.
00:21:40 ravfx:xmr.mx: But in that case it won't get the private key to sign the messages
08:57:58 gentlemoose:matrix.org: Hello, what is the EU plotting today. Anything indecent?
09:00:34 moneromoooo: Gotta be. They don't want to be left in the dust by the US and UK.
15:48:36 y7x: Hi
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16:04:39 y7x: sorry I was testing a script - now its off.
16:31:40 DataHoarder: virtual IRC cafe?
17:29:19 nioc: 7
17:29:39 nioc: Barolo please
17:29:53 pcre: Which mini PC would you recommend for building a lottery miner? I already mine on my PC, but I have to shut it down from time to time when it gets annoying.
17:30:12 pcre: 800 USD
17:30:15 pcre: max
17:32:42 ravfx:xmr.mx: Miniforum that come with a ryzen.
17:32:42 ravfx:xmr.mx: Not sure the price, but the main issue is the ram, do they even have good binned sodimm? And can you even set timing on theses mini pc?
17:34:12 testtank:matrix.org: https://xcancel.com/nikzh/status/1996993993960308969?s=46 i used to think that the average Monero holder was smarter the the average XRP holder, i might be wrong
17:35:31 pcre: I have 2 x 8 GB DDR5-4800 SODIMM memory CL40
17:37:24 pcre: I have no idea whether you can adjust the timing. Don't they have something like a BIOS?
17:37:46 ravfx:xmr.mx: @pcre: Normal PC that come in parts, yes
17:37:46 ravfx:xmr.mx: Others, usually no
17:38:37 pcre: Isn't that set automatically nowadays?
17:38:57 ravfx:xmr.mx: ideally you would like to add heatsink to your ram, increase the voltage and lower your timing to cl24. You should get a huge mining performance gain compared to slow boat JEDEC specced timing
17:39:17 ravfx:xmr.mx: @pcre: Yeah, you get automatic JEDEC timing
17:39:32 ravfx:xmr.mx: cl40 at 4800 is jedec
17:39:42 pcre: ahh
17:40:45 ravfx:xmr.mx: It will work, it just that you are leaving a lot on the table
17:40:51 pcre: For a heatsink, I would have to remove the case, most likely
17:41:04 ravfx:xmr.mx: ideally you want 10ns for CAS (and other good timing)
17:41:36 ravfx:xmr.mx: @pcre: yeah, maybe, I have no idea how there made. And sodimm usually have one of there face right on the board too so that might not work
17:43:19 pcre: Normally, the memory slots are also stacked on top of each other, making it difficult to cool one of them properly. This is due to space constraints.
17:44:11 ravfx:xmr.mx: Yeah, well, you might have to use JEDEC timing
17:45:34 ravfx:xmr.mx: Your going to lose maybe 30+% compared to proper memory timing (of what your CPU could do if it where not to wait after the memory constantly).
17:45:38 pcre: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/wxanxwWYGfoiBySavDagvVPf.png (image.png)
17:45:51 pcre: ok
18:04:00 nioc: ravfx minisforum have a proprietary mb and bios
18:04:19 nioc: I did not see a way of adjusting the memory
18:04:24 nioc: Or cpu
18:06:19 pcre: https://shorturl.at/504E2 I'm still considering using this as a miner. I'll have to ask the seller if 2 x 32 GB or 1 x 64GB.
18:07:43 pcre: If I sell the graphics card for 250 USD and put in a cheap one, then the price would be okay.
18:10:00 pcre: But 24 kg weight. jesus.
18:14:56 ravfx:xmr.mx: At that point why not getting a custom build in a small case?
18:14:57 ravfx:xmr.mx: CPU is good but I expect it have again really loose ram timing (and that you can't change that because Lenovo)
18:15:20 ravfx:xmr.mx: Can't see the price, if the price is really good then it might be worth it
18:18:09 pcre: 1,975 USD
18:18:09 pcre: Source: https://eur.currencyrate.today/convert/amount-1699-to-usd.html
18:19:10 pcre: Randomxbenchmark shows 60.000 kH/s but it is 2 CPU's https://xmrig.com/benchmark?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+Threadripper+PRO+3975WX+32-Cores
18:19:23 ravfx:xmr.mx: The question would be, can it even beat a Ryzen 3950X.
18:19:23 ravfx:xmr.mx: It have like twice more core but it's going to run at JEDEC.
18:19:23 ravfx:xmr.mx: That would be a question for #monero-mining
18:19:36 ravfx:xmr.mx: @pcre: Ram matter, A LOT
18:19:56 ravfx:xmr.mx: you can have Threadripper on board that allow you to do what you want
18:20:08 ravfx:xmr.mx: you can have Threadripper on board that have 3 options in the BIOS too
18:20:32 ravfx:xmr.mx: Expect locked down BIOS on Lenovo so expect no proper memory timing
18:21:01 pcre: fair enough. it is a gamble.
18:21:05 ravfx:xmr.mx: You could think about just getting a second hand board for that threadripper (like from Asrock or Asus)
18:21:10 pcre: wont risk it then
18:21:25 ravfx:xmr.mx: BUT it's a Threadripper PRO from Lenovo so, the CPU might be locked to the lenovo motherboard
18:21:47 ravfx:xmr.mx: (Ryzen* PRO cpu have the option to be locked to a specific board and so said CPU won't boot if you transplant it)
18:22:10 pcre: to much risk
18:27:48 ravfx:xmr.mx: At that level of prices, you can get a mini itx case and motherboard, and get a good CPU to match it (Be sure that the motherboard can power it properly if you take a *950X)
18:27:48 ravfx:xmr.mx: Then you get matching memory with good timing for that platform (DDR4 3200 CL16 / DDR5 6400 CL32).. To know the CL you want, simply remove the two "00" at the end of the ram speed and divide the number by two (6400 -> 64 -> 32 -> CL32). Be sur to obtain ram that specify AMD or EXPO in the spec.
18:27:48 ravfx:xmr.mx: If you plan to also overclock the memory to try to get more hashrate, for DDR4 you want Samsung B-die memory chips, For DDR5 you want SK Hynix A or M-die memory chips.
19:46:18 pcre: https://shorturl.at/YX45G Just found this Anntminer for XMR.
19:46:57 pcre: 212 kHash/s
19:48:32 ravfx:xmr.mx: @pcre: According to Space Guide in the mining channel : They all endup breaking down
19:48:49 ravfx:xmr.mx: it have like 3 CPU boards (with many CPU on each) and one of the board always endup dying
19:49:06 ravfx:xmr.mx: So be careful if you get one of these (for the price it's very good hashrate)
19:49:23 ravfx:xmr.mx: But it's also less efficient than Ryzen (It use more juice per hash)
20:45:30 dzsigoloo: hmrf. looks like my data.mdb got phucked. never really seen this before. zfs lists it with data errors on a 3-way mirror. odd. running a scrub now to see. but if that doesn't gix it. what to do? delete it to resync?
20:45:51 dzsigoloo: *fix it
21:38:36 321bob321: zfs snapshots?
21:41:15 dzsigoloo: that would have been great... and yes. from 2021-06. gonna check after the scrub what's in that.
21:42:38 dzsigoloo: the pool doesn't even say there are any device errors. wonder what this is
22:13:12 angled:matrix.angled.rip: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.angled.rip/QNwiTZvaAtiMnrxSeQnzXHQx.mp4 (monerod.mp4)
22:13:15 angled:matrix.angled.rip: I'm trying to sync monero on cachyos, but it is lagging the fuck out of my desktop for some reason
22:13:20 angled:matrix.angled.rip: barely any cpu or memory usage