00:04:44
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/BFlLKRmXyUasUziQaDIpWEwm.jpg (isabella-monero-illustration-v3.jpg)
00:04:48
diego:cypherstack.com:
this one is a more paintery style
00:07:16
diego:cypherstack.com:
I'll be honest, I like the painters style. It gives things an analog type feel that other coins / sites don't have.
00:07:25
diego:cypherstack.com:
And we're trying to be "cash". Very tactile. Very analog.
00:19:49
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: She is literally not sexualized at all?
00:22:39
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
How about we use a different image for localized website
00:23:04
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Nioc can have a cat theme for the nioc localization
00:25:21
diego:cypherstack.com:
who here remembers Monero Cat?
00:26:38
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
The main thing i don't like about this, is the ledger and trezor > <@diego:cypherstack.com> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/BFlLKRmXyUasUziQaDIpWEwm.jpg (isabella-monero-illustration-v3.jpg)
00:26:41
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://cryptopop.net/who-is-monero-cat-episode-3-cryptopop/
00:26:59
diego:cypherstack.com:
ah yes, we should make a Kastelo wallet ;)
00:27:09
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Enclosure* lmao
00:27:45
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pzqueMsgvUEGEetXYYWuuqeE.png (image.png)
00:27:49
diego:cypherstack.com:
This direction mebbe
00:28:25
diego:cypherstack.com:
KnifeofPi once coded up an idea of mine of using the random numbers on each block to generate a unique piece of art per Monero block
00:28:34
diego:cypherstack.com:
this was before AI art became prevalent
00:29:43
diego:cypherstack.com:
I can't find his github. He may have completely disappeared. Sadge.
06:55:33
rbrunner7:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/833jkv/an_upcoming_monero_project_render_the_entire/
06:55:35
rbrunner7:
https://imgur.com/a/EvDtU
07:08:49
321bob321:
inception
08:16:23
basses:matrix.org:
it literally is, this reply is even a proof that it perhaps differs from a culture to another. I don't know how you even came up with this illustration when you know that monero community is very large diverse. > <@diego:cypherstack.com> She is literally not sexualized at all?
08:18:05
basses:matrix.org:
unnecessary as now we will judge what culture prefers having a sexualized image on their home page. > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> How about we use a different image for localized website
08:26:51
redsh4de:matrix.org:
It is possible to display different images based on the page locale, and i think should be done > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> How about we use a different image for localized website
08:26:51
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Cultural differences are important to account for
08:48:43
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Imo the concept of a character itself could be kept, as a mascot definitely adds something to the page, but perhaps adjusted to be more formal for select locales. No exposed midriff, calf-length skirt / baggy pants, extended sleeves until the wrists - something of that sort, so the mascot gives more "fintech professional" vibe [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/ka_Juc8KM1kzd2pz ]
08:52:06
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: mby even fully non-human... someone mentioned a Monero Cat, although i dont know about anthropomorphic animals if its considered "eh"
08:53:34
basses:matrix.org:
creating a mascot for wouldn't be an easy thing tbh.
08:55:59
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: I don't mind animals or any non-human characters, anthropomorphic animals is probably something in 1910s and look very weird today's standard where everyone like cute and simple illustrations.
08:56:29
basses:matrix.org:
see zig, rust, Go
08:57:15
redsh4de:matrix.org:
zig do have a lil dino guy on their main
08:57:15
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/vXjwaJMCCEvcknbsVsCHbEdE.png (image.png)
08:57:25
redsh4de:matrix.org:
mby smth more akin to that style
08:57:26
basses:matrix.org:
also https://proton.me/blog/product-updates/lumo
08:59:34
redsh4de:matrix.org:
dont mind that at all either - would just have to figure how to efficiently mirror the story of the image with the wallet choice, aquiring coins & spending, so it complements the right side well
08:59:48
basses:matrix.org:
I see dino mascots is very popular, what we could add to make it look different from others and has some sort of story relevant to Monero, see https://proton.me/blog/lumo-design
09:11:48
321bob321:
Cats for nioc
09:17:38
basses:matrix.org:
lumo cat looks so good
09:20:10
basses:matrix.org:
also nheko for some reason deleted 1 year worth of chat in this room
09:25:00
321bob321:
For security and privacy reasons
09:25:58
basses:matrix.org:
for dumb reasons, I hate just using element to see this chat
09:33:36
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org https://gomakethings.com/css-only-solutions-are-not-accessible/
09:35:37
basses:matrix.org:
this is the broken link at end of article https://kelpui.com/docs/components/subnav/#enhanced-functionality
09:46:09
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Kelp uses JS for interactivity
09:47:06
redsh4de:matrix.org:
without JS there will always be some little tradeoff - fwiw the current dropdown behaviour is also present on the current site
09:49:48
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: getmonero.org?
09:50:05
redsh4de:matrix.org:
yes, like the language dropdown
09:50:37
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: Maybe can try using the popover traits? They are relatively very new though
09:50:46
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://caniuse.com/?search=popover
09:51:34
redsh4de:matrix.org:
should be fine if we target latest browser versions though
09:51:36
basses:matrix.org:
very new, Safari is always very slow
09:52:05
basses:matrix.org:
unless they are the one to come up with new implementation of a spec
09:56:21
basses:matrix.org:
https://getmonero-redesign-impl.vercel.app/
09:56:38
basses:matrix.org:
so I can easily find it
10:22:44
redsh4de:matrix.org:
will also need to use anchor positioning for the popover, and that is even a newer thing > <@basses:matrix.org> very new, Safari is always very slow
10:22:45
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://caniuse.com/css-anchor-positioning
10:36:28
redsh4de:matrix.org:
wouldnt work on ESR/Tor Browser out of the box
11:43:06
basses:matrix.org:
dont use gzip for ourwebsite https://www.breachattack.com/
11:44:17
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Thats just Vercel iirc
11:44:46
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i'd use beta.monerodevs.org as the proper deployment example
11:45:11
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: it doesn't use gzip
11:45:17
basses:matrix.org:
from website scan
11:46:27
redsh4de:matrix.org:
oh word just checked, thought it would be the other way around
11:46:35
redsh4de:matrix.org:
vercel uses brotli
11:48:17
redsh4de:matrix.org:
cc @plowsof:matrix.org
11:50:58
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: I think it accepts multiple? Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br, zstd from your website
11:53:25
basses:matrix.org:
but it is not showing content-encoding for some reason
11:54:14
basses:matrix.org:
saw reddit comment saying brotli like u said
11:54:38
redsh4de:matrix.org:
sucks as this is the best modern way, but literally too new to work on Tor/ESR :/ > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> wouldnt work on ESR/Tor Browser out of the box
11:55:11
redsh4de:matrix.org:
can make it a github issue, put in some reference code that works - and then later in the future replace when anchor is available on ESR
11:55:21
redsh4de:matrix.org:
hopefully wouldnt take longer than a year
11:55:40
basses:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: oh checked another request and it is br
12:00:27
basses:matrix.org:
we can set webserver to serve brotli
12:00:28
basses:matrix.org:
only
12:03:18
basses:matrix.org:
can we also remove the image "Start using Monero" for now until we find a suitable one for every one
12:03:30
plowsof:
i read everything and pretend not to if i have nothing valid to say
12:05:09
basses:matrix.org:
nothing from me >plowsof (192.169.4.20)
12:05:13
basses:matrix.org:
thanks
12:05:28
plowsof:
xD
12:06:43
basses:matrix.org:
I dont understand "Eliminate render-blocking resources" here https://tools.keycdn.com/speed?h=6932c92942c4226f1c0a6a82
12:07:38
redsh4de:matrix.org:
It's complaining that the .css is served as a seperate file instead of being inlined
12:09:19
basses:matrix.org:
weird
12:16:43
basses:matrix.org:
we should also enable DNSSEC
12:18:03
basses:matrix.org:
but I read that there are people against it
12:48:59
redsh4de:matrix.org:
+1 > <@diego:cypherstack.com> I'll be honest, I like the painters style. It gives things an analog type feel that other coins / sites don't have.
12:49:40
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: what's the case for not using DNSSEC? the misconfig meaning instance outage concerns?
13:05:53
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: "being government controlled"
13:16:32
basses:matrix.org:
and not an expert in anyway with this matter, perhaps someone here can elaborate
13:44:33
plowsof:
.merge+ 2402
13:44:33
xmr-pr:
Added
14:40:50
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: Wait till they find out who controls the authoritative root servers xD
14:45:13
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: yep, double standards
14:45:23
basses:matrix.org:
icann controls everything
14:45:36
basses:matrix.org:
you are basically just renting
14:54:02
basses:matrix.org:
I finally restored all messages in this room, thanks to clear-timeline command in nheko client
14:54:37
basses:matrix.org:
element electron craps suck
17:13:42
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)
17:13:44
diego:cypherstack.com:
we could go super conceptual
17:14:16
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org ^ ehhhhh?
17:14:50
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/ymrYtdltvetNZoYmYwPRwvkx.png (image.png)
18:36:26
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i specifically like the story told by the original pic that complements the 3 steps on the right, that is really good and should be kept imo
18:40:37
diego:cypherstack.com:
I agree
18:43:13
basses:matrix.org:
looks good, but have you tried some non-human illustrations, irrc most of art your done is human-like. > <@diego:cypherstack.com> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)
18:46:13
diego:cypherstack.com:
I mean I can, yes.
18:46:31
diego:cypherstack.com:
But humans really ground a cypherpunk concept like Monero.
18:52:26
redsh4de:matrix.org:
fwiw the current page also is filled w/ a lot of human centric illustrations (and i agree on the cypherpunk part), but the cultural differences point is fair and should b accounted for
18:52:26
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i think just making a second version w/ a non-human character (same story & artstyle) and using it on select locales is a good way to address that
18:54:19
redsh4de:matrix.org:
isabella is the spiritual equivalent of monero-chan and she is the official unofficial monero mascot at this point... had a fleeting idea of community vote for a mascot or smth mby
18:54:55
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: > second version w/ a non-human character (same story & artstyle) and using it on select locales is a good way to address that
18:54:55
basses:matrix.org:
for how many locales and how you are sure that default locale is the right one to have this mascot?
18:55:29
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: 6-7 locale ids
18:55:30
basses:matrix.org:
this is much better than the non-official knock off monerochan > <@diego:cypherstack.com> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)
18:55:40
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: it's not even monero chan
18:56:17
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: knock off
18:56:53
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i do think its a nice nod
18:56:53
diego:cypherstack.com:
Isabella the Monero Girl has been a thing since like 2018
18:57:09
diego:cypherstack.com:
She is one of the few officially supported Sticker packs in Matrix after I submitted her there
18:57:39
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://txcity.io/v/xmr-btc
18:57:45
diego:cypherstack.com:
She's the representative in txstreet
18:58:18
redsh4de:matrix.org:
word just looked it up, even better
18:58:27
redsh4de:matrix.org:
mby just a more modest version then?
18:58:38
diego:cypherstack.com:
parka version
18:59:28
basses:matrix.org:
created by Cypher Stack
18:59:33
diego:cypherstack.com:
will take off the skirt and make the pants baggier
18:59:36
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: troo
18:59:56
basses:matrix.org:
https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/Monero/comments/f5myj2/introducing_isabella_the_monero_girl_sticker_pack/
18:59:56
basses:matrix.org:
https://cypherstack.com/isabella-monero-girl-stickers.html
18:59:59
basses:matrix.org:
this
19:00:25
diego:cypherstack.com:
She's CC bro
19:00:36
basses:matrix.org:
there are no other versions than this one, right?
19:00:59
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: no other versions of what?
19:02:02
diego:cypherstack.com:
The TX Street guy used her and I didn't care. She's CC.
19:02:03
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: "Isabella the Monero Girl"
19:02:21
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: There is. TX Street.
19:02:39
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: it looks similar but south park version
19:03:10
diego:cypherstack.com:
it's literally her. The creator said so.
19:03:30
diego:cypherstack.com:
https://x.com/txstreetCom/status/1384250622564659203
19:05:45
basses:matrix.org:
2020 you mean? > <@diego:cypherstack.com> Isabella the Monero Girl has been a thing since like 2018
19:06:09
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: one of those yeah
19:08:05
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://cypherstack.com/isabella-monero-girl-stickers.html
19:08:05
redsh4de:matrix.org:
there's also a fox dude in there
19:08:05
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kjpuBwCeMyqQHffsjIjStjWs.png (image.png)
19:08:30
diego:cypherstack.com:
all of this is a ruse to drive traffic to the cypher stack website
19:08:32
redsh4de:matrix.org:
options, options... cat, fox, smth else :D
19:08:57
redsh4de:matrix.org:
i think this is smth maybe to put up to a community poll for the new website? Like Libreoffice did a few years back
19:09:21
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: still I don't see how it became a "monero thing", being used on TX Street still not doesn't change anything, statistics wise, monerochan is more popular, it was added to Mysu wallet.
19:09:38
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: yeah but people will not like monerochan, as you stated
19:09:43
diego:cypherstack.com:
on the official site
19:10:09
diego:cypherstack.com:
Isabella is a happy medium, having some precedent, not super sexualized, and brings a human component to the site.
19:11:12
321bob321:
Do we have to pay royalties to cypherstack ?
19:11:25
redsh4de:matrix.org:
CC by 4.0, ye?
19:11:28
basses:matrix.org:
yeah fox dude makes more sense even mentioned in their own announcement https://cypherstack.com/isabella-monero-girl-stickers.html > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kjpuBwCeMyqQHffsjIjStjWs.png (image.png)
19:11:28
basses:matrix.org:
> A fox lends itself well to the colors of Monero, and we still might utilize this idea at some point
19:11:28
basses:matrix.org:
To me it feels like some person at CS wanted to create a sticker packer with monero style color.
19:11:46
diego:cypherstack.com:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: ye boi
19:11:53
diego:cypherstack.com:
@321bob321: Creative Commons
19:12:14
basses:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: and they liked isabella as a concept
19:12:33
basses:matrix.org:
doesn't mean we are forced to use it and put it on monero website.
19:13:06
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: obviously
19:13:22
diego:cypherstack.com:
I put this illustration forth as an option for usage
19:13:43
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: Hi, yes. That person was me. I run CS. I made the decisions. P
19:14:08
diego:cypherstack.com:
Monero Chan is also in Stack Wallet. > <@basses:matrix.org> still I don't see how it became a "monero thing", being used on TX Street still not doesn't change anything, statistics wise, monerochan is more popular, it was added to Mysu wallet.
19:14:08
basses:matrix.org:
that's why im asking for something that fits everyone (inclusive).
19:14:16
diego:cypherstack.com:
I should add Isabella there too actually
19:15:00
321bob321:
She looks under age
19:15:07
321bob321:
She have ID ?
19:15:25
diego:cypherstack.com:
An animal mascot is unserious. I wouldn't want it on Monero's home page.
19:15:47
diego:cypherstack.com:
Abstract would have to be the direction, but we lose the human/grounding element, which is bad.
19:15:48
basses:matrix.org:
we actually shouldn't even add any character from other companies which might imply endorsment or advocation on monero website
19:15:53
diego:cypherstack.com:
Like, it doesn't have to be Isabella. Duh.
19:16:00
diego:cypherstack.com:
But I would argue for human.
19:16:26
redsh4de:matrix.org:
what about a more cartoony version? less curves, like in this image. although then the "seriousness" argument can be raised > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kjpuBwCeMyqQHffsjIjStjWs.png (image.png)
19:16:32
redsh4de:matrix.org:
id def want the design to be inclusive
19:16:46
basses:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: even it is CC or whatever
19:16:47
redsh4de:matrix.org:
humanity argument makes sense too
19:16:55
diego:cypherstack.com:
We can give Isabella a mastectomy, yes
19:17:11
syntheticbird:
what about just monero-chan. Please think of the weebs
19:17:30
diego:cypherstack.com:
elongate her shirt, take away the skirt and baggy the pants, take away the boobs so people don't have to remember that women have boobs
19:17:33
basses:matrix.org:
monero website has always been neutral even in its choice of wallets, always gave options for users to pick
19:17:39
321bob321:
@syntheticbird: Wb
19:18:25
321bob321:
@diego:cypherstack.com: Make her a swimmer
19:18:36
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: i raise the seriousness and inclusiveness card, i think isabella is a nice neutralish nod to it while not leaning fully into the kawaii desu aesthetic
19:18:58
basses:matrix.org:
I don't why you insist on it being Isabella...
19:19:23
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: monero website not making an Halloween version is crazy to me
19:19:24
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: I literally said it didn't have to be
19:19:38
diego:cypherstack.com:
What's non-inclusive about a flat, more 'modestly' dressed isabella?
19:19:44
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: the new website is literally halloween themed bruh
19:19:49
diego:cypherstack.com:
you have several shifting goal posts here
19:20:04
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: where are the bats and pumpkins?
19:20:14
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: fake
19:20:18
basses:matrix.org:
shit
19:20:31
basses:matrix.org:
always we accept treats in xmr only
19:20:33
321bob321:
Also batman cert expires on 15th dec
19:20:48
diego:cypherstack.com:
bro that's good
19:20:53
diego:cypherstack.com:
batman goes public domain then?
19:20:58
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: i see. how about i turn you into a halloween decoration. I'm sure having your head stuffed in a pumpkin will make some good to your thinking
19:21:00
diego:cypherstack.com:
if so we can use him instead
19:21:23
diego:cypherstack.com:
mickey mouse steamboat willy is public domain, let's use that
19:21:32
syntheticbird:
ok this was supposed to be joke but that really reads like im threatening you so forget what i said.
19:21:42
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: gigachad?
19:22:26
syntheticbird:
how about having isabella and a multiverse button on the side so that the website reload with random theme
19:22:26
basses:matrix.org:
ultimate monero dev form?
19:22:58
basses:matrix.org:
actually the placeholder just pulls an image from Nano banana on refresh
19:23:10
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: epic
19:23:13
redsh4de:matrix.org:
monero joins the ai slop trend 2026
19:23:18
redsh4de:matrix.org:
masterful gambit
19:23:27
321bob321:
This talk is too advanced for me
19:23:37
syntheticbird:
@321bob321: then step forward whats wrong with you
19:23:52
321bob321:
Rude > <@321bob321> Wb
19:24:06
basses:matrix.org:
@321bob321: put chat in chatgpt and ask to explain in soccer terms
19:24:23
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: now that's really inclusive
19:24:59
basses:matrix.org:
remember that monero always meant who dont give a f about who you are what you do with your own money
19:25:21
syntheticbird:
except light theme user
19:25:26
321bob321:
So where adding ai chat bot to site? and have disclaimer to check accuracy yourself ?
19:26:27
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: I think we were too inclusive with our addition of light theme...
19:26:28
321bob321:
@syntheticbird: Non negotiable
19:26:30
basses:matrix.org:
far left tricked us...
19:27:36
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: association detected. political bait diffused
19:27:46
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com https://www.monerujo.app/ removed pixelated Gunther
19:27:52
diego:cypherstack.com:
ok, so consensus is I make a different flat chested girl, yes?
19:28:04
syntheticbird:
@diego:cypherstack.com: sounds about right
19:28:34
321bob321:
@diego:cypherstack.com: Orange fair
19:28:35
redsh4de:matrix.org:
to summarize:
19:28:35
redsh4de:matrix.org:
the idea of a mascot for the page seems to be okay with everyone - inclusivity concerns with the current proposed design.
19:28:35
redsh4de:matrix.org:
there doesnt seem to be many mascots proposed historically aside from isabella, monerochan, monerocat and... something else that im missing?[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/lIvxy88KaEZldmh0 ]
19:28:36
basses:matrix.org:
what this style is called? > <@diego:cypherstack.com> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/cypherstack.com/pmdvYXCHMiWqKoIOKVikKbqT.png (image.png)
19:28:58
diego:cypherstack.com:
will change hairstyle, will change outfit, will change skin color to white to signify the dominant race
19:29:19
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: i hope thats not the final style, its giving corporate memphis lowkey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Memphis
19:29:24
syntheticbird:
@diego:cypherstack.com: make a mix. only the face is white, the rest is random
19:29:31
redsh4de:matrix.org:
vitiligo
19:29:44
diego:cypherstack.com:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: I agree, but I asked andres for more abstract when people started complaining
19:29:49
diego:cypherstack.com:
and that's what happened
19:29:53
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: doesn't look similar at all
19:30:03
redsh4de:matrix.org:
it gives the same energy
19:30:13
redsh4de:matrix.org:
blobs
19:30:16
redsh4de:matrix.org:
lets leave blobs to Ethereum
19:30:33
syntheticbird:
@diego:cypherstack.com: now I'm starting to understand why the quality assurance process for designer in big corpo take so much time
19:30:36
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: lgbt
19:31:00
diego:cypherstack.com:
@syntheticbird: sir, design by committee is the absolute worst every time I have to go through it
19:31:15
diego:cypherstack.com:
went through it for the current, live version of the website many moons ago too
19:31:17
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: no oner compains about zig, Go or rust mascot
19:31:29
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: fanatism
19:31:36
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: yes but it's no secret Monero has the worst community
19:31:40
321bob321:
Meetimg adjourned
19:31:42
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: but Go is best
19:31:47
diego:cypherstack.com:
but they're smarter than other communities so it must be tolerated
19:32:08
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: i'll f*cking close you in a room for a month and let that blue rat eat your flesh
19:32:26
321bob321:
GO run
19:32:27
basses:matrix.org:
I mean r/monero literally said dark theme gives darknet feeling 🤦
19:32:32
diego:cypherstack.com:
programming languages get to feel approachable and cute
19:32:52
diego:cypherstack.com:
I wouldn't want a cartoon duck on my dollar bill instead of Washington
19:32:55
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: I have have crab for dinner
19:32:59
basses:matrix.org:
you are invited btw
19:33:01
321bob321:
@basses:matrix.org: Welcome to interwebz
19:33:29
321bob321:
How many crates does it take to build this site ?
19:33:56
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: r/monero: "i love being flashbanged at 3am when i open a website that does not respect prefers-color-theme: dark"
19:34:01
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: fiat apologist?
19:34:10
syntheticbird:
@basses:matrix.org: r/brandnewsentence
19:34:30
321bob321:
Add to vocab
19:35:40
redsh4de:matrix.org:
btw, think i forgot to post: updated the community downloads page to have a TOC for the sections: https://beta.monerodevs.org/downloads/community/, ended up going with a # icon to indicate
19:35:59
diego:cypherstack.com:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: Ok but how can we work Isabella into this page?
19:36:08
diego:cypherstack.com:
idea: instead of making her boobs smaller, what if we made them bigger?
19:36:12
diego:cypherstack.com:
just think about it for a bit
19:36:54
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: 🚩
19:37:03
basses:matrix.org:
will ask cakewallet for a mascot
19:37:11
321bob321:
Bolt ons
19:37:28
syntheticbird:
@diego:cypherstack.com: there are so many jokes that pass through my head but none of them are appropriate
19:37:37
321bob321:
And Brazilian butt lift too
19:37:39
basses:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: looks good
19:37:48
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: types... deletes...
19:38:02
321bob321:
And longer eye lashes
19:38:14
321bob321:
Just send her to Lebanon
19:38:19
321bob321:
Easier
19:38:29
syntheticbird:
Lebanon doesn't exist
19:38:30
syntheticbird:
it's a myth
19:38:47
321bob321:
Only half does
19:39:18
syntheticbird:
but anyway surely the best is to go for another round of redesigning isabella
19:39:35
redsh4de:matrix.org:
yeh
19:39:36
syntheticbird:
i'm sure there will be consensus at some point
19:39:52
321bob321:
Yolo
19:40:21
321bob321:
Too many chiefs, not enough Indians
19:42:46
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: hilarious that you mention this. Cake Wallet got as big as they did partially because in the early days they paid many egrisl to talk cake wallet
19:43:03
diego:cypherstack.com:
then pulled that back after they got big enough
19:43:15
redsh4de:matrix.org:
🍵
19:43:20
basses:matrix.org:
oh that's disgusting
19:44:34
syntheticbird:
@diego:cypherstack.com: incredibly rare case of a corporate greed refraining just in time
19:44:47
syntheticbird:
strategy going extinct these days
19:46:02
321bob321:
Monero marketing department
19:46:48
basses:matrix.org:
I meant the reason we can't use isabella is because the following will happen.
19:46:48
basses:matrix.org:
someone see's the mascot, wonders what it is called, someone tells a name, look it up, cypher stack is one that created it, then will feel it is endorsement from Cypher Stack/Stack wallet.
19:48:47
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: I have no issue with this ;)
19:48:53
diego:cypherstack.com:
I know zero people that do
19:48:56
diego:cypherstack.com:
and anyone who does is an AI
19:49:05
basses:matrix.org:
lol
19:50:40
syntheticbird:
I mean no one cares until cypherstack becomes an evil megacorporation but that will never happen
19:50:52
redsh4de:matrix.org:
eh i think its not that deep if its not copyrighted or anything, i'd have a problem with that
19:50:53
redsh4de:matrix.org:
if some entity or person has made something open source and there are no alternatives, why not use it yk? otherwise any open source design assets made by anyone who works at a crypto company can be taken as a endorsement, companies are a part of the monero community too
19:50:54
syntheticbird:
the evil part i mean
19:51:15
321bob321:
@syntheticbird: Minio
19:51:56
basses:matrix.org:
both CS and Cake have influence on Monero, CS researchers, designers etc. Cake users
19:51:57
diego:cypherstack.com:
@syntheticbird: My goal is to become THE blockstream of Monero
19:52:18
321bob321:
Send node to space ?
19:52:31
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: do the small blocks come with the blockstream?
19:53:09
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: "Diego please please PLEASE review Carrot and FCMP. PLEASE Diego, you charge 30% less than other firms, and know the codebase and math, but we don't care about all that, we just want YOU!"
19:53:11
diego:cypherstack.com:
~ MRL
19:53:56
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: anon can do all of that in 10sec
19:54:20
basses:matrix.org:
opens a CCS:
19:54:20
basses:matrix.org:
> do all CS work
19:54:20
basses:matrix.org:
> fix problems
19:55:20
diego:cypherstack.com:
@basses:matrix.org: Shoot bro. Send me his info. I want to hire.
19:55:29
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: amazing. simply spectacular. ten bajillion gazillion xmr to anon!
19:55:44
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: already hired by CCS
19:55:53
basses:matrix.org:
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/621
19:56:16
basses:matrix.org:
too much on his plate fixing wrong doing and wrong think
19:57:29
diego:cypherstack.com:
Lol. Anyway. Enough messing around. Good talk. Will make changes to the illustrations.
19:58:20
basses:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com: if there's anything comes on your mind other than isabella sketch it
19:58:43
syntheticbird:
if there's anything comes on your isabella other than sketch mind it
20:03:04
basses:matrix.org:
@syntheticbird: https://gleam.run/ mogs rust mascot
20:03:19
basses:matrix.org:
dont hover on it, too cute animation!