01:18:31
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
uh... few hours later, silentlink traffic is still routed through the uk but just a different city, sync on both stack and monero dot com wallets been literally instant, within the blink of an eye and it was already fully synced
01:18:31
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
would still be wary of using that mobile coming forward, if at the next reboot it goes back to routing traffic through a compromised uk server type thing...
01:18:31
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
new setup on the way regardless 👍️
01:18:31
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
so i guess just the reminder to have backup setups or whatever
01:18:31
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
@diego:cypherstack.com drop addy for the $20 for pinging you lmao, stack wallet working rn, not sure how long but it working for now[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/vuqmvssKaExEbkN6 ]
01:19:32
diego:cypherstack.com:
@rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org: D:
01:19:48
diego:cypherstack.com:
Asked for the address and then left the room so he won't see it.
01:22:10
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
He's reading
01:22:13
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
She's
05:21:49
DataHoarder:
Monero Blocks now has a (simple) transaction page, and displays any known entities within its outputs https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/e7353f1b7899b6451aa8553622cd77584240ca9e5fe197a51d555589d47f8a7b (General Fund); https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/d27ada0832c5b67682d3fbfb8ddd739ebc515f5cee262480dd2781fa1cdb06e8 (SupportXMR payout)
05:22:25
DataHoarder:
Along with a generated InProof ready for usage on Monero CLI/GUI https://irc.gammaspectra.live/790051e6fc352e8a/image.png
05:25:45
gucci999:matrix.org:
Cool
05:26:54
gucci999:matrix.org:
Are you gonna have to update the site when FCMP++ comes out?
05:42:36
DataHoarder:
it's already updated/supported
05:43:13
DataHoarder:
did that earlier today, along with my go consensus library https://git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consensus (which already participated on FCMP++ stressnet, now updated with changes for next one)
05:44:05
DataHoarder:
ofc, Carrot still hasn't defined InProof/OutProof, and FCMP++ hasn't defined SpendProof, so those parts are left here and upstream
05:59:47
DataHoarder:
works for Monero Bounties now too examples https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/a55237e0ea9a4f06bb054be0916fe57576eca4e90592d511ad8156506d4a6c36 https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/d87c8e6a8eebcc2c1d957f943822e39cf600e7488d90d7461d42dbc2c1bac071
06:12:40
321bob321:
you can use https://selfh.st/apps/?alternative=Google+Analytics instead of cloudflare insights
07:03:41
DataHoarder:
I don't use Cloudflare insights
07:03:44
DataHoarder:
Or analytics
07:03:50
DataHoarder:
It uses Cloudflare tunnels
07:03:59
DataHoarder:
Otherwise page should be non JS
07:04:53
DataHoarder:
Are they injecting that now? Sigh ill have to check what they enabled now
08:45:07
sech1:
https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/d27ada0832c5b67682d3fbfb8ddd739ebc515f5cee262480dd2781fa1cdb06e8 - SupportXMR pays out to itself?/
10:12:02
Snipa:
Should be change no?
10:13:10
Snipa:
Sxmr's payouts aren't going to be perfectly sized, so we should have change coming back to our own address.
10:35:36
sech1:
Ah, makes sense
12:51:07
milas900:matrix.org:
Libera monero logs is down when it will be fixed ?
12:55:52
shitpost1337:matrix.org:
@milas900:matrix.org: I made an irc logs page if you need it, (logs.monero.coffee)
13:06:38
milas900:matrix.org:
@shitpost1337:matrix.org: But where are the old ones
13:07:02
ofrnxmr:
In your heart
13:07:31
milas900:matrix.org:
Really if I need to check some old logs how to do it
13:09:02
sbt:nope.chat:
You're glowing my friend 💀
13:09:41
milas900:matrix.org:
@sbt:nope.chat: There was some logs website but now it’s down. Any ideas ?
13:09:57
sbt:nope.chat:
You're already on matrix, use search
13:10:34
milas900:matrix.org:
@sbt:nope.chat: How ? On elements u don’t have
13:10:56
ofrnxmr:
Element x doesnt have search, but element does
13:14:22
Cindy:
milas900: maybe if you used IRC
13:14:28
Cindy:
your client would have kept logs by itself
13:14:34
DataHoarder:
sech1: it's indeed change
13:14:40
Cindy:
then you wouldn't have to ask
13:15:40
DataHoarder:
I went to their payouts, took the last one and put the id in
13:24:30
milas900:matrix.org:
@ofrnxmr: I have element and when I put room name I can’t find monero room lol
13:27:24
ofrnxmr:
What room
13:28:16
milas900:matrix.org:
This one
13:28:52
ofrnxmr:
What
13:29:08
milas900:matrix.org:
This one when I go to elements and search for monero I can’t find this room
13:29:17
ofrnxmr:
You're looking for this room? The room that you are in?
13:30:39
milas900:matrix.org:
Yes how to find it in elements
13:32:56
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Youre already here
13:42:42
DataHoarder:
find #monero : monero.social directly
13:43:11
DataHoarder:
as you are on a different server you need full url
13:43:25
DataHoarder:
put it on https://matrix.to/
13:43:30
DataHoarder:
and open it on Element there
13:43:34
DataHoarder:
remove spaces around :
13:43:57
DataHoarder:
maybe bridge autoconverted that, one sec. # monero : monero.social
13:43:59
DataHoarder:
remove spaces around # and :
14:13:55
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Datahoarder, he's in this room
14:14:13
DataHoarder:
he's trying to go from ElementX to Element, same or different user?
14:14:33
DataHoarder:
regardless they can click that link and it'll travel within the app
14:15:11
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Neither. He's looking for logs
14:15:32
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Was told to search in the matrix room, and he says he cant find it
14:15:45
DataHoarder:
Yes. But he wants to join under Element, not ElementX, cause ElementX doesn't have the search
14:15:59
DataHoarder:
14:11:14 <+br-m> <ofrnxmr> Element x doesnt have search, but element does
14:15:59
DataHoarder:
14:24:49 <+br-m> <milas900:matrix.org> @ofrnxmr: I have element and when I put room name I can’t find monero room lol
14:16:15
DataHoarder:
so trying to get the view to work by using a matrix.to deep link
14:16:53
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
His msg implies he's using element. I just pointed out that x doesnt have search, but element does
14:18:28
DataHoarder:
at this point just send a youtube video
14:18:54
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
😃
14:38:55
BlueyHealer:
BTW Element X was unbearable for me, as it had the persistent popup "back up your keys to the server!" that I couldn't figure out how to remove, it just reappeared every launch
14:39:21
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Element x is trash. Only thing going for it is faster sync
15:17:33
DataHoarder:
it even handles old transactions well! https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/2e31b4403dc07a8f6db8edbad0c75b59f397e048fa262986c9449f0d99575871
15:18:12
DataHoarder:
07:12:46 <+br-m> <321bob321> you can use https://selfh.st/apps/?alternative=Google+Analytics instead of cloudflare insights
15:18:23
DataHoarder:
I don't see any JS injected. Do you have more details?
15:21:12
Cindy:
DataHoarder: do you offload HTTPS wrapping to cloudflare
15:21:32
DataHoarder:
08:03:57 <DataHoarder> It uses Cloudflare tunnels
15:21:34
DataHoarder:
so yes, it goes via cloudflare
15:21:37
DataHoarder:
but no JS is injected
15:22:04
DataHoarder:
I have no idea why 321bob321 suggests that unless they saw JS injected - as it's not the point
15:22:10
Cindy:
do you have your own HTTPS key
15:22:13
DataHoarder:
I'm not doing analytics on any of this
15:22:19
Cindy:
or do you tunnel through plain-text HTTP to cloudflare
15:22:35
DataHoarder:
Cindy: it uses cloudflare tunnels, cloudflared daemon runs locally
15:22:46
Cindy:
how is your webserver setup though
15:22:48
DataHoarder:
it's different than CF -> server, this does reverse
15:23:05
DataHoarder:
Cindy: that's not what I am talking about here
15:23:16
DataHoarder:
but them suggesting "use other analytics" when there is none I see
15:23:24
pirategoblin:
are there any services that allow running monero node on vps?
15:23:24
Cindy:
look, i get what bob is saying
15:23:35
DataHoarder:
and not why it's doing cloudflare
15:23:37
DataHoarder:
Cindy: https://developers.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-one/networks/connectors/cloudflare-tunnel/
15:23:42
Cindy:
if you're tunneling through plain-text HTTP, and cloudflare are the ones doing the HTTPS wrapping
15:23:49
DataHoarder:
aware.
15:23:50
Cindy:
then they can (and WILL) modify the response
15:23:56
pirategoblin:
or is it safer to follow something like this guide on your local setup? https://sethforprivacy.com/guides/run-a-monero-node-advanced/
15:23:58
Cindy:
and sometimes they do
15:24:05
Cindy:
they modify your HTML response to include tracking
15:24:08
DataHoarder:
yes, aware
15:24:36
DataHoarder:
that is what I'm trying to see, as otherwise those knobs are disabled and response is tagged in a way to prevent that
15:24:38
DataHoarder:
and from all I see, it's doing that
15:25:17
Cindy:
i see
15:25:19
DataHoarder:
Cindy: good luck, as also for example on p2pool.observer stuff is sent to prevent JS from running, or other assets
15:25:47
DataHoarder:
they can modify it, sure, but that is further effort
15:26:05
DataHoarder:
like see https://selfh.st/apps/?alternative=Google+Analytics
15:26:26
Cindy:
do you have CSP rules to disable JS entirely?
15:26:32
Cindy:
i can't really check headers rn
15:26:32
DataHoarder:
none of that interests me and I'm still trying to guess why they suggested I start tracking analytics :D
15:26:34
DataHoarder:
in observer, yeah, not on blocks yet
15:26:51
DataHoarder:
on blocks responses are set as immutable
15:27:05
DataHoarder:
(which means they can't mess with it or break etags)
15:27:33
DataHoarder:
content-security-policy
15:27:35
DataHoarder:
default-src 'none'; img-src blob: data: ; object-src 'none'; style-src 'unsafe-inline'; style-src-elem 'unsafe-inline'; style-src-attr 'unsafe-inline'; prefetch-src 'self'; base-uri 'none'; form-action 'self'; frame-ancestors 'none'; navigate-to * 'self'
15:28:04
DataHoarder:
default-src 'none' disables all by default, then I explicitly add them back
15:32:48
nioc:
I imagine bob said things without looking too deeply
15:36:41
DataHoarder:
many assumptions :D
16:00:34
DataHoarder:
also supports txkey + multiple addresses https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/834a724fed3522d81c132e5c8d18762b8762c2a48d7ad54f5d99eb534138ff51?txkey=6a996b10fbe7dd2d175f329828e8b5fb90e1219cb45dc5d47ac2cb96e5962f0e&address=4AJZZv3rTYzJXT8hUbbyrzdXcTCDt3bWbjk9sDfYSynjM4rUYhUu6NS24psAtzmBYEgzzuXq8xFKTFCpC1AyMdZkTBxmhvj&address=43jMNkyW3jPGqLKQakz4Bn4bF81
16:00:36
DataHoarder:
ZzDPk6AKL5Js6H2BcR2r6kZqMsBgabs2Yp1fEbYcaSA4Zhfjh6dpqCR32cQUWBSvpT7q
16:00:38
DataHoarder:
long link :D
16:00:55
DataHoarder:
https://irc.gammaspectra.live/5c7c7a3000029490/image.png
18:04:26
lza_menace:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/monero.social/gOzsihDypeiZsJHKBrsaQlSB.png (image.png)
18:05:09
Cindy:
what is the data supposed to be
18:05:48
lza_menace:
nodes on monero.fail - i commented the other day how "someone" is putting thousands of i2p nodes on it
18:06:21
Cindy:
how do you know they aren't just mirrors of a node
18:06:21
lza_menace:
for a while "someone" was adding hundreds of tor nodes, but they mostly have gone offline and pruned out
18:06:31
lza_menace:
but now there's just a constant stream of i2p nodes being added
18:06:38
Cindy:
that sounds super suspicious
18:06:42
lza_menace:
i have no idea
18:07:00
Cindy:
use the spy node detector tool
18:08:22
lza_menace:
not familiar with it
18:08:52
Cindy:
iirc it finds nodes when they report the wrong domain or something (because spy nodes are usually just mirroring an existing node and not hosting a full one themselves)
18:08:59
Cindy:
but it could probably help here?
18:10:42
Cindy:
lza_menace: there could be someone intentionally doing this to drown out the list of actually working monero nodes
18:11:45
m91w:matrix.org:
looks like it'll be a must to run a local node soon enough
18:12:13
ofrnxmr:
You cant learn which node is which via restricted roc
18:12:16
ofrnxmr:
Rpc
18:12:25
Cindy:
ah
18:13:01
ofrnxmr:
Your best bet would be illegal - to ddos one and see if all of them go down
18:13:21
Cindy:
you literally cannot host hundreds of nodes in a single day
18:13:28
Cindy:
new nodes*
18:13:35
Cindy:
blockchain downloading takes some time
18:13:58
Cindy:
and also the amount of space would be very expensive
18:14:18
Cindy:
it has to be one actual monero node, 10000 I2P servers just mirroring it
18:16:38
ofrnxmr:
You can > <Cindy> you literally cannot host hundreds of nodes in a single day
18:16:51
ofrnxmr:
Copy -> paste db = magic
18:17:13
Cindy:
unless you're within local network, i assume it'll take time
18:17:26
Cindy:
to sync one copy of the db with another
18:17:42
ofrnxmr:
You can also have 1 db and read-only access it across many monerod's
18:18:07
Cindy:
you mean like a rw lock?
18:18:17
Cindy:
one monerod allowed to read-write, many others allowed to only read it
18:18:36
ofrnxmr:
Yea
18:19:09
Cindy:
still, wouldn't that ruin the point
18:19:19
Cindy:
imagine 1000 monerods in a single server
18:19:57
Cindy:
there's no decentralization
18:23:07
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
calling me a "he" only makes the point that i would be 888 due to the voice in sam's video being male (tho AI generated) > <@diego:cypherstack.com> Asked for the address and then left the room so he won't see it.
18:23:07
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
because of the "post count coincidence" in videogaming forum, last message in feb 2024:
18:23:07
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=102353093&f=383&p=657577485
18:23:07
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
the whales are not willing to support the current ccs model no more
18:23:07
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
an alternative will be made eventually, and all of you greedy fucks that been milking it for years wont be able to for any longer
18:26:31
plowsof:
bashing of the CCS aside, there are alternatives already /me bans rawr_barky_blep so i feel a sense of worth / power lacking in my daily life
18:29:26
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/tPUUxxtcuiFNOtZmkgxUpqUE.png (image.png)
18:29:32
rawr_barky_blep:matrix.org:
@retired1101 😹
18:38:36
321bob321:
Pangolin is the same as cloudflare tunnels
18:39:47
diego:cypherstack.com:
I was pinged?
18:40:31
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Ya
18:40:40
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
You tried to extory kitty for $20
18:40:45
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Now ban yourself, plz
18:41:09
321bob321:
I was pinged but CBF finding it
18:41:24
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$N8yDEggdWsrLV9EduW6fTe_MVEfr96pei3sfizJdVTA?via=matrix.org&via=monero.social&via=matrix.ravc.tech
18:41:40
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Diego ^ first ping
18:42:12
DataHoarder:
321bob321: but then I'd have to host that infra, right?
18:42:25
DataHoarder:
which is the issue cause this is behind a couple of layers of NAT
18:43:11
321bob321:
You just need a vps with pangolin and it VPN back to your homelab or where ever
18:43:12
DataHoarder:
though in blocks. case cloudflare also has some strict caching for a few homepages, so it loads relatively fast
18:43:36
321bob321:
Pangolin reverse tunnels
18:43:39
321bob321:
Like tailscale
18:43:42
DataHoarder:
don't even need pangolin then, just wireguard to VPS
18:43:44
DataHoarder:
then do it there
18:43:54
DataHoarder:
headscale self hosted too :)
18:44:08
diego:cypherstack.com:
Kitty, you do realize the $20 thing was a joke, right?
18:44:28
DataHoarder:
so yeah, again the issue of not having the VPS
18:44:50
diego:cypherstack.com:
I obviously don't expect $20 for someone pinging me.
18:44:53
DataHoarder:
but to answer the question 321bob321 did you see JS injected or analytics? that was the part that worried me
18:45:17
diego:cypherstack.com:
Sorry to be blunt, but if you thought that was real you're kinda a doofus
18:46:50
plowsof:
its over $100 currently
18:47:52
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Wait, are you telling me that its only $20? ive been sending $25
18:51:42
diego:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Black Friday sale
18:53:22
321bob321:
Racist
18:53:30
321bob321:
Dark colour sales
18:55:49
321bob321:
DataHoarder: Someone just needs to check with ublock origin
18:55:57
321bob321:
Not infront of pc
18:56:10
datahoarder:
I have uBlock origin, and I look at the resulting HTML, and headers
18:56:29
datahoarder:
plus I have the explicit immutable caching so they can't modify HTML, or it'd break the hash
18:57:26
321bob321:
I noticed it only in the block explorer links
18:57:34
321bob321:
Not the homepage
18:59:13
DataHoarder:
which explorer/links, p2pool.io/explorer/?
19:00:14
DataHoarder:
or on /blocks/ or /txs, as I see nothing there
19:00:24
DataHoarder:
the most I see is page-script.js which is loaded from a browser extension (not the website)
19:04:44
DataHoarder:
I see one thing blocked on uBlock Origin but request logs show nothing actually got blocked, weird
19:05:02
DataHoarder:
happens even when loading a single .png so I assume it's uBlock Origin