06:48:04
darkhappyman:
What is currently missing in the Monero ecosystem ?
06:57:38
gan:skhron.org:
In which sense? services, or software?
06:59:42
torir:matrix.org:
Local businesses that accept Monero.
06:59:47
torir:matrix.org:
Still far too rare.
07:00:14
gan:skhron.org:
@torir:matrix.org: Indeed
07:01:49
darkhappyman:
@gan:skhron.org: software
07:02:32
gan:skhron.org:
everything is seemingly in place, I guess
07:03:12
darkhappyman:
@torir:matrix.org: most of local businesses in my area don't care about crypto and they rely on payment systems that the bank provide them, they are happy enough with what they are provided with and don't have any incentives to pay for a better POS
07:16:49
ct:xmr.mx:
@darkhappyman: A product search engine. Most sellers that accept xmr only have small selection of products, and its a lot of effort to go through all sellers one by one.
07:16:49
ct:xmr.mx:
I want to enter "thinkpad" and "ships to " and get presented with a list of all the options. Notably this search engine should not require effort on the sellers side either, and work entirely with webcrawlers.
07:20:30
ct:xmr.mx:
The basic use must be free for sellers and buyers, so its a bad business. However maybe its possible to offer extras such as a little "verified" badge, escrow of insurance as a paid service
07:23:17
ct:xmr.mx:
Online is much more suited for xmr then IRL and the market is far from saturated, so it would be foolish to reduce focus in the one field where we have a tech advantage
07:28:32
torir:matrix.org:
A few retailers might be willing to offer referral links for a site like that. While potentially bad for privacy, Monerica does this already.
07:48:06
darkhappyman:
@ct:xmr.mx: so sellers can keep their independent shop
07:49:21
darkhappyman:
@ct:xmr.mx: not sure about bad business, you can add ads, referral like @torir:matrix.org said, data
08:06:26
ct:xmr.mx:
its not an "easy" business like a coin swapper and you don't have the "stickyness" of a sellers platform.
08:06:27
ct:xmr.mx:
I don't like ads because they degrade the user experience and we are talking about how to improve the ecosystem rather then extract the most money.
08:06:27
ct:xmr.mx:
Ideally sellers pay the site for their increased traffic. Referral codes are good, but maybe sellers are interested in subscribing for premium features: verification badge to indicate "trustworthiness", stats on click trough/conversion rate for their products, faster crawling rate (eg. hourly instead of daily),...[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/q9nBieMKdUEtVzBE ]
08:38:05
321bob321:
Why do people keep using clawbot even after the cves
08:39:41
torir:matrix.org:
Because it's not their data at stake, but the data their bots produce? At least until someone starts DMing prompt injections to everyone's assistant.
09:08:34
darkhappyman:
@ct:xmr.mx: yes I can see how it could be useful, not everyone wants to use a platform
09:09:00
monerobull:matrix.org:
@321bob321: if you give it its own accounts, what can even happen
09:09:18
monerobull:matrix.org:
it can do silly stuff and create stories for you to laugh at
09:09:37
monerobull:matrix.org:
"oh, someone prompt injected it to call in a bomb threat. fuck"
09:09:58
torir:matrix.org:
Oh, I mixed up clawbot and moltbook.
09:10:10
torir:matrix.org:
Which didn't moltbook also have security holes?
09:14:09
monerobull:matrix.org:
moltbook just had the api keys for login leak
09:14:18
monerobull:matrix.org:
all of this is more like an art project
09:15:00
torir:matrix.org:
I see it as a big multiplayer toy. That you play with using your very expensive $50 a month AI agent.
09:15:16
torir:matrix.org:
That you probably foolishly let have access to your entire computer and online life.
09:30:06
monerobull:matrix.org:
yeah
09:30:54
monerobull:matrix.org:
> takes out a loan to buy a $100k full precision high speed Kimi 2.5 rig
09:31:16
monerobull:matrix.org:
my clawdbot will take over the world
10:30:37
monerobull:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/aQFhKVWovpQmCwAbpijiIbFx.png (image.png)
15:31:39
hooftly:matrix.org:
https://status.canonical.com/
15:31:40
hooftly:matrix.org:
This is screwing my day up. Anyone else? I guess I can change sources....
18:58:54
cornfeedhobo:
56 mins 28 secs
18:59:54
cornfeedhobo:
>99.99% is hard
19:00:05
cornfeedhobo:
>99.99% uptime* is hard