00:12:13
321bob321:
Thats what she said
00:51:44
0xfffc:
https://youtu.be/VSe9wxZo-c8
00:51:51
0xfffc:
The Light Bringer
04:26:45
basses:matrix.org:
Cinny's UI is better than Element
04:26:50
basses:matrix.org:
also it is much faster
05:49:56
321bob321:
How fast
06:14:22
321bob321:
why is ublock lit up like a christmas tree on monerotopia website
06:18:25
orly_owl:
it runs 4 monero miners in your browser
06:27:33
darkhappyman:
@basses:matrix.org: is there a desktop version ?
06:41:41
darkhappyman:
@darkhappyman: here it is https://github.com/cinnyapp/cinny-desktop
09:03:47
321bob321:
https://nltimes.nl/2026/02/04/quantum-computers-break-dutch-encryption-2030-court-audit-warns
11:20:49
gan:skhron.org:
Anyone had experience with Sia? if so, how it was?
11:24:59
plowsof:
is that the coin that increased storage prices? people brick drives and make money or something? i remember hate watching as the price fell
11:25:13
BlueyHealer:
What happened?
11:26:30
gan:skhron.org:
plowsof: Maybe, haven't looked into its history too much, and bricking drive sounds interesting indeed
11:26:42
plowsof:
im thinking of Chia , however their mining is setup - you get jobs that require very fast ssd's and many of them. it ruins the drives quickly (creates alot of e waste and momentarily increased nvme prices)
11:27:09
gan:skhron.org:
yeah, that's probably Chia
11:27:46
BlueyHealer:
Aren't SSDs also raising in prices now? Who would use that and why?
11:27:58
plowsof:
i suppose this could be a 'is the blockchain for generic file storage' monero says no
11:28:13
BlueyHealer:
Why would general file storage need a blockchain?
11:29:14
BlueyHealer:
For money it works because we need much more robustness and the data volumes aren't as high as something generic could be...
11:29:31
plowsof:
i dont know 😭
11:31:00
gan:skhron.org:
Looking at it, Sia is based around renting out storage space, while Chia simply had a "new" mining scheme without much benefit, or rather utility
11:31:51
plowsof:matrix.org:
the first i heard of sia was this uh sec
11:32:06
gan:skhron.org:
plowsof: Nah, I'm more interested in saner schemes, where a blockchain is used programmatically to proof transactions and so on
11:32:40
plowsof:matrix.org:
we got scammed but i looked into sia https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/Archive-monero-code-in-uncensorable-way.html
11:35:35
gan:skhron.org:
I'm currently looking for an S3 provider and unfortunately the ones that accept Monero usually have shotgun KYC
11:35:42
plowsof:matrix.org:
somehow the powers that be in sia can censor things (the proposal is unrelated to that) but ... i cant find my comments with citations) ofc censoring some things is good but if in the case of monero source being illegal or something, they would wipe it off their blockchain somehow
11:35:51
BlueyHealer:
Aren't there already resistant ways to archive big volumes?
11:37:40
gan:skhron.org:
@plowsof:matrix.org: Not sure, why somebody suggest Sia to be used here, when something like radicle exists
11:38:23
BlueyHealer:
Also remember how there's an i2p torrent of the Chainalysis video?
11:39:14
321bob321:
@gan:skhron.org: Run your own ?
11:40:16
gan:skhron.org:
@321bob321: Mate, you're not even running your own home-server, and no, I don't have a scalable way to do it, nor an IBC to not expose my personal data
11:40:22
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@gan:skhron.org: This was like 3+ yrs ago
11:40:47
gan:skhron.org:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: reasonable assertion
11:42:58
gan:skhron.org:
@plowsof:matrix.org: That sounds interesting, considering the content is encrypted
11:45:12
321bob321:
@gan:skhron.org: No mates here buddy
11:46:37
plowsof:matrix.org:
listen Pal
11:48:32
btcdwed:
hai
11:57:28
BlueyHealer:
Run your own what? Missed that message
11:58:12
plowsof:matrix.org:
compadre btdwed, "Run your own" Matrix homeserver
11:58:22
plowsof:matrix.org:
btcdwed
11:59:38
Cindy_:
S3 providers??
11:59:46
btcdwed:
i thought about building an own server for all my friends
12:00:00
btcdwed:
if talked to some of them, 50% looked at me like i am palantir
12:00:03
btcdwed:
they dont understand it
12:00:04
btcdwed:
:P
12:00:19
Cindy_:
gan: the providers are KYC probably because they don't want to be unknownigly hosting CP
12:00:25
Cindy_:
or other illegal material
12:00:53
Cindy_:
but they could have a legal defense if S3 was client-side encrypted
12:01:09
Cindy_:
(without KYC)
12:01:23
Cindy_:
because then they'd be "oh i didn't know this bunch of useless encrypted bits were illegal material"
12:03:26
Cindy_:
so i think an encrypted provider is better :P
12:23:58
gan:skhron.org:
I use other hosters which don't have any KYC, and I don't think they really care about that, they're protected with UGC-related laws (à la Section 230) > <Cindy_> gan: the providers are KYC probably because they don't want to be unknownigly hosting CP
12:25:43
gan:skhron.org:
for example, thankful to the nature of remote media caching, I probably still have plenty of CSAM dangling around on my current server
12:29:00
gan:skhron.org:
Cindy_: That's what Sia supposedly provides, currently all major object storage providers just offer S3
12:29:50
gan:skhron.org:
eh, my intentions are pure 🏴☠️ > <Cindy_> or other illegal material
12:40:31
gan:skhron.org:
To be fair, thinking of that all, I probably could rent a storage box / seed box that provides a common protocol to access and mount it via a fuse-based relevant implement
12:43:37
gan:skhron.org:
My intention is daily international copyright infringement, so those might be suitable, although I'm not sure about their throughput since that'll be "unintended" use
12:44:32
Cindy_:
you could get away with it if you had a TEE
12:45:30
gan:skhron.org:
TEE?
12:45:50
Cindy_:
trusted execution environment
12:45:57
Cindy_:
+ encrypted VM storage :P
12:46:09
Cindy_:
i think there was a CPU extension for encrypted VMs (seperate from TEEs)
12:46:25
Cindy_:
but regardless, if you had that, you could infact get away with not bothering to scan your users for copyrighted material
12:46:44
Cindy_:
you could just say "well i don't know which user in my VPS is doing it
12:47:59
gan:skhron.org:
I mean, that's not even a theoretical thingy, there's already plenty of hosters intended for file-sharing
12:48:28
gan:skhron.org:
they're obviously not doing any scanning for copyrighted content
12:48:47
gan:skhron.org:
Even without TEE, that is
12:49:10
Cindy_:
yeah i know
12:49:25
Cindy_:
but don't you think it'll make it really hard for yourself?
12:49:45
Cindy_:
like to really do your job of investigating for copyrighte d content
12:50:40
gan:skhron.org:
In which sense? at the end of the day, I'm limited by what's available on the market rather than my own opinion on it
12:51:07
Cindy_:
true i guess
12:51:46
gan:skhron.org:
I'm not doing a colo in my current situation, I don't have an IBC to at least hide some of my own information, so that's the best I could do
12:53:13
gan:skhron.org:
I'll probably register a company in Vanuatu a bit later
12:53:31
Cindy_:
aren't you planning to take monero only?
12:55:41
gan:skhron.org:
In which sense? to note I'm not gonna be a provider of storage, I'm planning running a fediverse-related stuff over overlays (Tor, I2P, and so on), but yeah I'm gonna take Monero (and maybe other privacy-friendly coins)
12:56:03
Cindy_:
why not stick to unregistered
12:56:07
Cindy_:
less issues
12:57:14
gan:skhron.org:
Colos are far more cost effective, so that might be a point of consideration, but yeah, you're mostly right
12:58:00
Cindy_:
also today, dubai banned monero
12:58:21
gan:skhron.org:
interesting, I still see plenty of hosters that based in UAE
12:58:35
gan:skhron.org:
Not that I'm planning to get a machine there
12:58:38
monerobull:matrix.org:
"banned"
12:58:42
monerobull:matrix.org:
from regulated platforms
12:58:58
Cindy_:
monerobull: so? it's literally the same thing as what the EU did
12:59:05
monerobull:matrix.org:
they had already "banned" it in 2024 just the same
12:59:20
gan:skhron.org:
Oh, they just banned them on the average internal exchanges, didn't they?
13:04:09
gan:skhron.org:
s/them/it/
13:11:30
gan:skhron.org:
Seems like it, welp, I guess the people from UAE will have to use Slovakian exchanges 🧌
13:12:28
BlueyHealer:
I infringe copyright daily right from my home because it's safe. If it wasn't, I'd probably be setting up a seedbox in a suitable jurisdiction, or, if possible - behind i2p.
13:13:05
BlueyHealer:
*blockchain* would be so stupid and wasteful for Bluey webrips
13:14:09
gan:skhron.org:
To note, a blockchain in context of Sia is simply used to programmatically organize peers and proof transactions, not to store files on it
13:14:55
BlueyHealer:
Ah. With the mention of SSDs I assumed the worst XD
13:15:06
gan:skhron.org:
I don't think that anyone is wishing to get TRON moment x 10
13:15:30
BlueyHealer:
wdym?
13:15:49
gan:skhron.org:
Have you seen the size of their blockchain?
13:17:06
BlueyHealer:
oh. No.
13:17:33
gan:skhron.org:
In context of blockchain-based file hosting platforms, even LBRY doesn't store stuff on the blockchain, I think people that are doing it are plainly-speaking insane
13:18:30
BlueyHealer:
I still don't quite understand what the blockchain is doing in their case.
13:18:54
BlueyHealer:
Seems like it only discourages people from using the platform
13:18:58
gan:skhron.org:
Store metadata
13:19:11
BlueyHealer:
Ah. What's the point then?
13:20:32
gan:skhron.org:
A good question, unlike with Sia, I can't think of a justification to use a blockchain for LBRY, but I don't really remember its whitepaper, to have a more informed view I should re-read it
13:27:40
gan:skhron.org:
hm, it's just a few TBs, not that bad to be honest > <@gan:skhron.org> I don't think that anyone is wishing to get TRON moment x 10
13:29:19
gan:skhron.org:
I guess, I might misremembered its size
13:29:35
gan:skhron.org:
thought it was like 9TBs or something akin
13:46:36
BlueyHealer:
When it comes to video hostings, I'd just go with Peertube.
13:48:28
gan:skhron.org:
I don't like the web at large personally, even within context of hosting an AP server, I'd do it with a headless one
13:50:12
gan:skhron.org:
furthermore, I think that WebTorrent was a mistake
13:50:15
BlueyHealer:
"just a few TBs", and I thought Monero was demanding XD
13:50:24
BlueyHealer:
That's more than my accumulated media from my entire life
13:51:12
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: Compared to bitcoin, Monero's blockchain isn't that bloated yet
13:51:14
BlueyHealer:
gan, in my experience, at least in the past, I used to have trouble with webtorrent. I really don't like this feature on Peertube because it disrupted me like this.
13:55:47
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: I play games for pensioners (picture Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1 & 2, I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream) and from time to time may watch old and some newer stuff like The Chronicles of Riddick, Aliens, Die Hard, latest stuff that I've watched was Mad God, so my media library isn't that demanding
13:56:51
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: eh, webtorrent is like a perk of that platform
13:57:12
gan:skhron.org:
I don't like that it doesn't overlap with regular torrents, because it's le web
13:58:09
BlueyHealer:
Like?
13:58:42
gan:skhron.org:
Like in which sense?
13:58:52
BlueyHealer:
TBH recently I haven't had a problem with that webtorrent. But I also don't watch on Peertube a lot - I download most things I watch or (more often) listen to.
13:59:28
BlueyHealer:
Like, how does it not overlap? Like in not keeping the file afterwards or using different storage paths?
14:01:38
gan:skhron.org:
It doesn't overlap, because seeders couldn't overlap at the protocol level, if somebody would seed stuff on a regular tracker, it won't be seeded to webtorrent and vice versa
14:04:08
BlueyHealer:
Ah, in that sense.
14:04:23
gan:skhron.org:
Furthermore WebTorrent can't use the mainline obviously
14:04:55
gan:skhron.org:
That overall results in -1 seeder being present at all time
14:05:02
gan:skhron.org:
🧌
15:44:40
Anonomys25:
llamar what is the significance of Der Hirt auf dem Felsen part one, specifically, is there a meaning behind it?
15:44:53
Anonomys25:
oh
15:44:54
Anonomys25:
shit
15:45:03
Anonomys25:
I thought I was in space offtopic
15:45:06
Anonomys25:
lol
15:45:27
Anonomys25:
Don't mind me ^_^;
16:23:38
plowsof:
meirl when someone says "is anyone here?" https://x.com/mulhlland_drive/status/2019154573022388636
16:25:43
btcdwed:
hhehehe
16:25:50
btcdwed:
WE DONT DO THAT
16:26:38
plowsof:
😠
22:22:33
ufo808:matrix.org:
monero mentioned my dudes
22:22:33
ufo808:matrix.org:
https://youtu.be/Ukt2gVz25PQ?t=470
22:28:00
Cindy:
yes
22:28:07
Cindy:
monero cameo