03:35:46
glowingexplorer:matrix.org:
> <@ravfx:xmr.mx> You can also use llama-cpp
03:35:46
glowingexplorer:matrix.org:
i love this in theory as its private. running it airgapped where nobody could possibly read my prompts is a dream. the problem is none of the models you can run on consumer hardware hold a candle to stuff like chatgpt 5 or sonnett 4 etc. at least not any i have tried. they are not useless you can ask basic shit but they are useless for anything advanced coding, agenetic etc.
03:38:46
ravfx:xmr.mx:
smaller models are good enough (at least for me)
03:41:45
glowingexplorer:matrix.org:
we are probably 1-2 years away from that reality, where anybody can just self host on their machine and get something roughly as good as gpt-4o. which is fine for all but technical/advanced uses.
05:53:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I just created a set of xmr.mx rooms
05:53:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Here is the space that contain the rooms : #xmrmx:xmr.mx
05:53:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The main one is the status one (for when I do something related to xmr.mx infra, But I made a general (monero/crypto related) and offtopic too)
05:58:37
DataHoarder:
seems you got your first donation!
05:58:51
DataHoarder:
or 2x https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/788e6e8e81c1a4b36ded7b809124f2fcc1bce7a298480f3b76074931609e003c + https://blocks.p2pool.observer/tx/fc4e1905f6025425a9f0aa5849549aa3c20226197b7974676040f68716672b5d
06:01:21
ravfx:xmr.mx:
DataHoarder: Yeah, I did notice!
08:41:26
plowsof:
the "give me monero" has shared the campaign on reddit : https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qmoomn/fund_raiser_for_monero_faucet/
08:42:33
plowsof:
and i seen this today "I'm a newbie [..] wrote a faucet" 😆 https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qnvgkw/wrote_monero_stagenet_faucet/
08:51:03
DataHoarder:
plowsof: https://irc.gammaspectra.live/20c002dd453ff7ca/image.png
08:51:23
plowsof:
😅
15:02:45
basses:matrix.org:
what are disadvantges of someone applying to https://magicgrants.org/funds/ ?
15:27:23
plowsof:
Whoever receives payments you or someone on your behalf must be kyc'd
15:28:49
basses:matrix.org:
there is not gotchas? or magicgrants get a cut?
15:31:41
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Its a nonprofit
15:31:52
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
plowsof: ^ the gotcha
15:35:23
basses:matrix.org:
if a project wants to accept crypto donations and let magicgrants do all the legal work (tax etc), is that feasible without "investments".
15:35:34
basses:matrix.org:
> MAGIC Funds can be tailored with great flexibility or great restrictions on grant and investment decisions, depending on the desires of the project community and donors.
15:35:36
basses:matrix.org:
@sgp_:monero.social
15:35:49
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Investments?
15:36:17
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Magic doesnt do legal work for you
15:36:36
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
As recipient, youre still liable to do your own
15:37:24
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Donating to magic is donatong to a non-profit. tax deductions apply etc. Receiving money from magic is (afaik) still a taxable event for the recopient to deal with
15:37:49
basses:matrix.org:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: is there a way for FOSS projects to this stuff easily?
15:39:03
sgp_:
We have not yet taken any cuts, which is only "sustainable" since the work is volunteer. We have needed to pay more for accounting in the last year fwiw, so we do have an eye for making sure that is appropriately covered
15:39:32
sgp_:
The only "cut" we take is holding USD before paying contracts, and earning some interest off that
15:40:16
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@basses:matrix.org: Hire an a tax accountant
15:40:42
Cindy:
is there an organization that does the reverse
15:40:55
Cindy:
like people donate USD, and it gets converted to monero?
15:42:29
sgp_:
depends on the project. If it's not for a decentralized crypto network/community, or something within our charitable mission, then probably not > <@basses:matrix.org> if a project wants to accept crypto donations and let magicgrants do all the legal work (tax etc), is that feasible without "investments".
15:42:57
basses:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/yBxRCUiWZDgQAKYSPfrcrlEu.png (clipboard.png)
15:43:20
basses:matrix.org:
@sgp_: this is the project https://peergos.org/
15:43:34
BlueyHealer:
Cindy, if there's no KYC and such, that's very sus in terms of taxes so probably not
15:43:55
Cindy:
oh
15:44:35
sgp_:
Fwiw we aren't a payment processor. If all they want is to accept crypto donations they probably should use something else
15:44:49
basses:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: this is for payment and donations too
15:45:45
Cindy:
BlueyHealer: y'know i wish that existed
15:46:46
BlueyHealer:
Like, if there's KYC - there's no point in it being Monero. If there isn't - they may be sending money to someone who isn't supposed to be taking these donations.
15:48:25
sgp_:
if they just want to be able to accept any crypto, they could use coinbase commerce and settle in a stablecoin. In theory there might be some gains and losses, but it might be within their comfort level to treat it as equivalent of 1 usd in value
15:52:54
sgp_:
shopify is rolling out USDC but the fees are relatively expensive. But the merchant probably immediately gets "actual" USD, so there should be no additional accounting work: https://help.shopify.com/en/manual/payments/shopify-payments/usdc-payments
15:55:24
BlueyHealer:
Also tbh now I realize I thought less of tax accountability and more about general accountability when it comes to potential money laundering.
15:57:25
Cindy:
so rich people are allowed to establish shell companies to avoid accountability
15:57:28
Cindy:
but we can't?
16:06:13
BlueyHealer:
Yeah, that makes it very accessible so it's probably not allowed. To be fair, I've heard that dummy companies for some purposes (like hiding whom your home is registered to?) is more accessible to average people.
16:32:25
basses:matrix.org:
@sgp_: ok, thanks
16:38:43
basses:matrix.org:
https://winbuzzer.com/2026/01/22/windows-11-january-update-breaks-notepad-snipping-tool-and-other-apps-xcxwbn/
16:39:06
basses:matrix.org:
https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/windows-11s-botched-patch-tuesday-update-nightmare-continues-as-microsoft-confirms-some-pcs-might-fail-to-boot
16:39:19
basses:matrix.org:
they already started vibecoding?
16:42:06
btcdwed:
win11 is 99% vibe coded
16:42:07
btcdwed:
:P
16:42:18
btcdwed:
its soooo vibe coded, it even breaks SSDs
16:42:40
monerobull:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: the last one stopped them from shutting down
16:42:45
monerobull:matrix.org:
looks like they over-corrected lmao
16:45:04
nioc:
btcdwed: so... Microslop
16:45:23
nioc:
#never11
16:48:09
btcdwed:
i tested win11 enterprise ltsc, was kinda OK
16:48:25
btcdwed:
with tools, privacy.sexy etc it was more OK
16:50:03
BlueyHealer:
Does it require a lot of constant upkeep? Can you use it without touching the terminal?
16:50:49
basses:matrix.org:
you are talking about windows, no terminal needed
16:50:58
btcdwed:
yes, can confirm
16:51:10
btcdwed:
but you can go via terminal, if you want
16:51:20
btcdwed:
group policies are mostly touched
16:51:41
btcdwed:
if youre interested BlueyHealer, i can paste some links into your query
16:51:45
btcdwed:
pls query me just in case
16:51:50
basses:matrix.org:
btcdwed: this is the worst shit ever
16:51:56
btcdwed:
it is, yes
16:51:58
btcdwed:
:P
16:54:30
basses:matrix.org:
btcdwed: mandatory https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20110606-00/?p=10493
16:54:56
btcdwed:
hehehe
16:55:54
btcdwed:
https://privacy.sexy/
16:56:26
BlueyHealer:
basses, I mean with all those tools, and registry edits...
16:56:36
btcdwed:
Regularly applying your configuration with privacy.sexy is recommended, especially after each new release and major operating system updates
16:56:40
btcdwed:
can confirm
16:56:48
btcdwed:
you dont owe your PC with win11
16:57:11
Cindy:
microsoft owns your PC
16:57:13
basses:matrix.org:
there was scripts that automate all this shit, but it was the reason that made me switch to Linux due to having to configure them every single update
16:57:21
basses:matrix.org:
and that was on windows 10
16:57:30
btcdwed:
its like that, yea
16:57:42
btcdwed:
i use a lot of settings after fresh win10 ltsc install
16:57:56
btcdwed:
win10 ltsc is a bit de-bloated vs win10 normal version
16:58:06
basses:matrix.org:
Cindy: and your encryption keys
16:58:23
Cindy:
stop fucking around in microsoft's computer
16:58:43
btcdwed:
i will try some linux distris this weekend
16:58:44
Cindy:
they're tired of having to fix the stuff you do on it
16:58:48
btcdwed:
not sure which one to use
16:59:05
gan:skhron.org:
Cindy: "Your computer" went to "This computer" pretty quick 🧌
16:59:05
BlueyHealer:
Like, with all this constant work... Can you go through without using the terminal? Like, I would be fine with it as I use it on Linux, but I wonder if my dad could.
16:59:16
btcdwed:
he can
16:59:22
btcdwed:
he just pasting your copied stuff
16:59:25
btcdwed:
:P
16:59:45
btcdwed:
you can even write him a batch script
16:59:48
btcdwed:
2 clicks, boom
16:59:49
btcdwed:
:P
17:00:31
btcdwed:
https://massgrave.dev/windows10_eol
17:00:33
btcdwed:
fyi
17:01:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
LTSC is so superior anyway, don't use any non LTSC windows lol.
17:01:45
btcdwed:
true ;P
17:01:47
btcdwed:
https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat?tab=readme-ov-file
17:02:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Do you even need theses debloater with LTSC?
17:02:45
btcdwed:
some things are still bloated, i would say yes
17:02:54
btcdwed:
i just hit everything what helps debloating, etc @ windows
17:02:57
btcdwed:
just hit hit hit it
17:02:58
btcdwed:
:D
17:03:09
btcdwed:
https://github.com/Sloff11550/Windows-11-Editions-Comparison-and-Differences
17:03:22
btcdwed:
https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil
17:03:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Used to be a script Windows Decrapifier
17:03:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
For some reason they renamed it to Windows Debloater 🥲
17:03:35
btcdwed:
https://github.com/troennes/private-secure-windows
17:03:43
BlueyHealer:
And how is it in terms of telemetry?
17:03:44
btcdwed:
this one is powershell too
17:03:48
BlueyHealer:
(LTSC)
17:04:02
btcdwed:
https://www.ntlite.com/
17:04:38
btcdwed:
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
17:05:12
btcdwed:
https://www.w10privacy.de/english-home
17:05:22
btcdwed:
https://www.gingersec.com/post/windows-11-editions-in-depth-comparison
17:05:44
btcdwed:
those were my win11 bookmarks :P
17:05:56
btcdwed:
i dont recommend any of those links/tools
17:06:00
btcdwed:
DYOR
17:06:27
btcdwed:
lot of those tools deactive telemetry @ BlueyHealer
17:06:41
btcdwed:
i recommend installing a windows firewall like
17:06:54
btcdwed:
https://tinywall.pados.hu/
17:07:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, and there enough people keeping telemetry on that microsoft still know when something pop even if you turn it off.
17:07:23
btcdwed:
you can go fully strict via firewall
17:07:33
btcdwed:
whitelist>blacklist
17:07:44
btcdwed:
ehm, the way around
17:07:45
btcdwed:
:P
17:08:08
ravfx:xmr.mx:
There is also Portmaster that is decent and come with ivpn (now... I think as it's owned by ivpn)
17:08:35
btcdwed:
https://sniffnet.net/
17:09:37
btcdwed:
portmaster+ <3
17:09:49
btcdwed:
are you happy with it? didnt try it yet
17:12:17
btcdwed:
https://github.com/builtbybel
17:12:28
btcdwed:
those tools could be dope too
17:13:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
btcdwed: Testing it from time to time
17:13:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's way better now (they got higher vpn capacity)
17:13:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/r-jIz-AKY05yZkxP ]
17:13:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But because more people use it, you get same issue then other public vpn (you get blocked from there and there).
17:13:45
BlueyHealer:
Windows sounds like so much work... I'm too dumb for this.
17:14:06
btcdwed:
hehe
17:15:28
btcdwed:
for 4€/month ivpn+portmaster seems a fair price
17:15:45
btcdwed:
those blocking shit is disturbing af, but what can i/we do....
17:15:46
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: It's actually less than fixing your Linux desktop then and then
17:15:46
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But Microslop is losing more on that front as they abusing vibe coding too much and they have more bug slipping thru it look like.
17:16:01
btcdwed:
thats my main problem with MS winslop actually
17:16:10
btcdwed:
it feels like they control my machine
17:16:12
btcdwed:
in every aspect
17:17:33
btcdwed:
VPN Compatibility Mode "planned"
17:17:34
btcdwed:
:P
17:17:53
BlueyHealer:
ravfx, tbh mom hasn't had to fix her Mint desktop... And I only had to fix a few issues (one of them was just "wait until a newer version and use a different distro until then".
17:18:38
btcdwed:
linux is 100% better than MS when it comes to privacy
17:18:44
btcdwed:
there is nothing to discuss
17:19:04
btcdwed:
if you dont rely on shindows OS, just try something else
17:19:11
btcdwed:
its easier than ever to discover
17:21:38
btcdwed:
ravfx: is that mrelax link a kind of flood protection?
17:21:39
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Set the security update to delay for 3 days is a good trick to not get affected by most "update bugs".
17:21:39
ravfx:xmr.mx:
As all windows are LTSC, I don't have to bother disabling feature updates, but for normies windows I would recommand delaying theses for 1 month+
17:22:54
btcdwed:
i do updates 1 month later or never
17:22:54
btcdwed:
:D
17:23:16
btcdwed:
once a yr fresh install+new updates is mandatory
17:25:10
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I don't really do reinstall on mine, probably because I don't install a lot of crap on them
17:25:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's not like it would suicide by itself like Windows ME
17:26:27
btcdwed:
;D
17:33:08
nioc:
<ravfx:xmr.mx> It's not like it would suicide by itself like Windows ME <<>> memories lol
17:38:15
BlueyHealer:
1 month is too much
17:38:38
BlueyHealer:
Windows had comditioned me that "updates = bad" but now I know just how important they are
17:39:32
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: Yesterday I updates synapse on my server
17:39:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
After that synapse did not launch anymore :D
17:39:42
BlueyHealer:
btcdwed | linux is 100% better than MS when it comes to privacy <- I get it, I am just curious in cases when you have to use it.
17:39:57
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Package maintainer did not test the package, and forget to add a new dependency 😂
17:40:12
BlueyHealer:
ravfx, yeah, I get it. Just that a month is way too much.
17:40:22
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, Linux is better for privacy, that for sure.
17:40:52
BlueyHealer:
I am nonetheless curious just how manageable it is for a non-techie.
17:40:58
ravfx:xmr.mx:
When I upgraded to kernel 6.18.0
17:40:59
ravfx:xmr.mx:
My comp decided to fully crash each time I tried to play HEVC content (9070XT)
17:41:00
btcdwed:
https://chocolatey.org/ package manager for windows :D
17:41:07
ravfx:xmr.mx:
6.18 it would jsut crash the GPU and reset
17:41:16
btcdwed:
wtf
17:41:21
btcdwed:
i got 9070xt too
17:41:22
btcdwed:
bye bye linux
17:41:23
btcdwed:
:D
17:41:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
6.18.0 (full crash)
17:41:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
6.18.2 (only CPU reset)
17:41:25
ravfx:xmr.mx:
6.18.4 (fixed)
17:41:36
ravfx:xmr.mx:
but it worked fine with 6.15, 16, 17...
17:41:46
btcdwed:
everyone vibe coding
17:41:49
BlueyHealer:
I once had a problem with wi-fi when updating the kernel - it would just not turn on unless it was turned off at the moment of booting.
17:41:53
ravfx:xmr.mx:
There is always shit that break and QA is basically non existant (on the desktop side)
17:41:55
btcdwed:
VCaaS
17:42:11
BlueyHealer:
Rolled back to the previous kernel until it was fixed 9which was quickly specifically for this reason).
17:42:22
ravfx:xmr.mx:
QA is very hard on Linux considering that not only everyone machine is different, but everyone software is different too (distribution, etc)
17:42:53
BlueyHealer:
true
17:43:03
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, as a Gentoo user, I always have a hefty collection of old kernel in /boot so when that HEVC bug hit, I just returned to 6.17
17:43:21
BlueyHealer:
I am on Debian so even Testing is pretty stable.
17:43:53
BlueyHealer:
Was curious about Endeavour (not Arch because f complex installation), but now realize I do NOT want cutting-edge updates on my main machine.
17:44:22
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Linux could have telemetry that would actually help a lot
17:44:22
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Like if something pop, the system could send a automated report to whoever made the program in question and the distribution. But that would be like Microsoft telemetry (minus the extra spyning not related to dev)
17:45:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, I don't use unstable anymore on my gentoo.
17:45:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The only things that are very fresh are the kernels
17:51:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Instead than telemetry, Each distribution could own a parc with ~1000 different computer and do automated QA testing for every package update. And also test there community packages with it (with auto reporting to maintainers)
17:53:21
BlueyHealer:
A lot of apps do suggest a link to report whenever there's an error.
17:53:27
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Local testing parc have the advantage of being able to get full memory dump if you get a weird bug that require such dump (Microslop actually lost that capability when they switched to telemetry)
17:54:25
BlueyHealer:
they did??
17:54:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: It might be as useful if not more than manual reporting. Plus you know that the automated dump are not AI generated
17:55:13
BlueyHealer:
IDK, I'd think full memory dumps are a nope. Like, this may have some private keys and such...
17:56:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: Back when they had there windows QA testing parc yeah, they had full dump access as they had all the system local.
17:56:03
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But with telemetry it make no sense (can't get the user 64GB dump, there is bandwidth limitation, and yeah, like you said, it cause extra privacy issue)
17:57:24
BlueyHealer:
Ah, you mean the full memory was only for the specific QA installs. Yeah, that makes total sense.
17:58:59
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It was for there local QA parc.
17:58:59
ravfx:xmr.mx:
They had thousand computer in warehouse like just for that, all different configuration. And it was mostly automated yeah. Each new build of windows was going thru that
18:00:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But they need to maintain them, and as time go on, add new system to keep the testing relevent with "real world" while keeping old system (because you still supported them)
18:00:32
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's why windows release used to be slower too.
18:00:32
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Telemetry allowed Windows 10+ to become more like rolling release because it provide them with a lot more debug information, from the actual real world from real user
18:00:59
BlueyHealer:
"F it we'll do it live"
18:04:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
non, if you look at how it work.
18:04:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Each new patch first go to "Windows Insider" (People that volonter to be beta tester. They get free windows / microsoft product). They get all the new shit first.
18:04:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Then after a while, after most bugs are fixed and it's time to deploy, they don't update everyone, they update just a small subset of the installed park, then wait for more telemetry, then proceed if everything is ok, to update everyone.
18:04:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/gpaC0eAKT2VEMTZN ]
18:05:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's how for say, that sometime you get update that won't get installed if you have X piece of hardware or Y software installed... Some telemetry from insider or early updater told them that this specific combinaison is broken and so Microslop just block the update for that specific configuration until they fix it.
18:05:52
BlueyHealer:
I love how we just collectively decided to only call them Microslop now
18:06:51
ravfx:xmr.mx:
While X hardware might get chance to be tested in a QA parc.
18:06:51
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Y software have no chance to be tested in an artificial environement, you can't expect them to install literally everything software that exist one at at time to retest everything
18:07:36
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah because there QA is failing now, everyone assume it's because of vibe coding. Plus they try to push there slop nobody want too because there so invested in it.
18:08:35
BlueyHealer:
Doesn't mean vibe coding wouldn't make those already prevalent issues worse)
18:08:42
BlueyHealer:
They ADMIT they're doing it
18:51:01
basses:matrix.org:
game? bazzite. > <btcdwed> i will try some linux distris this weekend
18:51:03
basses:matrix.org:
otherwise fedora or linux mint
18:51:33
btcdwed:
cachyOS, bazzite= yessir
18:51:45
btcdwed:
i tried debian and linux minut before
18:51:50
btcdwed:
i liked mint
19:03:09
kaigoh:gohegan.uk:
@basses:matrix.org: Manjaro is nice, too. And that's from a LOOOOOOOONG term Debian user :)
19:04:40
basses:matrix.org:
@kaigoh:gohegan.uk: I haven't heard about them since long time https://manjarno.pages.dev/
19:05:13
kaigoh:gohegan.uk:
@basses:matrix.org: https://manjaro.org/
19:05:34
basses:matrix.org:
@kaigoh:gohegan.uk: no, the link I shared highlight issues with the distro
19:06:55
basses:matrix.org:
but seems things are fine for now?
19:07:24
btcdwed:
thx4info
19:08:01
kaigoh:gohegan.uk:
@basses:matrix.org: I've moved over a few weeks ago and it seems rock solid. But thanks for the link re pages.dev, I wasn't aware of these things.