04:01:11
torir:matrix.org:
People here afraid of OVKs, yet here I am, just barely asked by a coinify to provide a legal name and address to purchase something with crypto because of the EU travel rule.
04:01:42
torir:matrix.org:
Maybe that justifies the FUD, but I don't think it does.
04:02:29
torir:matrix.org:
Because governments don't need view keys to demand your ID on every crypto purchase.
04:03:22
torir:matrix.org:
I think my argument made more sense in my head.
05:46:34
johnjenkinss:unredacted.org:
@torir:matrix.org: wonder what type of service/product you got , cause for the most part, unless you're literally being tracked, idk why a gov. would ask for ID to buy a something with crypto lmao
05:46:53
torir:matrix.org:
@johnjenkinss:unredacted.org: I was buying a video game... and ended up not buying it.
05:48:02
torir:matrix.org:
I didn't even put my location as EU, IP address was in Canada, they asked anyway.
05:51:17
BlueyHealer:
Because the crypto isn't inherently tied to someone's identity and they want to know that for accountability reasons.
05:51:58
torir:matrix.org:
Coinify specifically cited the EU travel rule.
05:52:20
torir:matrix.org:
It said something like "because of the travel rule we have to ask for this".
05:52:58
torir:matrix.org:
Even for a small purchase like a video game.
05:53:31
torir:matrix.org:
It could have been Coinify playing it safe and asking for more than was required, CEXs do that all the time.
05:54:10
johnjenkinss:unredacted.org:
BlueyHealer: I just checked their site and they do KYC, so makes sense
08:43:47
lobboazul:matrix.org:
Howdy
10:01:49
basses:matrix.org:
Motorola's devices don't currently meet the requirements for GrapheneOS, but they're getting closer
10:01:49
basses:matrix.org:
https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/2015485941842870773#m
14:16:19
nioc:
the head of binance was at davos
14:16:35
nioc:
also a hot dog there costs $43
14:21:37
orly_owl:
time to deploy costco's hitman
15:58:20
plowsof:
kuno gets better every day https://kuno.anne.media/fundraiser/mkcu
16:00:46
plowsof:
cc kico
16:00:59
nioc:
so many words
16:01:14
nioc:
let me try and see if I can shorten it
16:01:28
nioc:
"give me monero"
16:01:56
plowsof:
Lol
16:02:09
sech1:
givemonero.org
16:02:24
sech1:
Someone register it :D
16:03:04
nioc:
wait, they want 100xmr 0_o
16:03:06
orly_owl:
why not givemone.ro
16:03:42
nioc:
both seem available
16:03:58
orly_owl:
cheap to register
16:04:22
DataHoarder:
> This is not a money making scheme. The goal is to reinvest everything back into making the faucet more reliable, fair, and genuinely useful.
16:04:28
DataHoarder:
tl;dr 100xmr to my pocket
16:04:38
nioc:
orly_owl: give me monono so I can register those domains
16:05:08
orly_owl:
sure, ill give you monono
16:05:16
orly_owl:
just provide your gps coords
16:05:29
orly_owl:
https://openmonero.com is this legit
16:05:45
nioc:
a legit scam
16:06:05
orly_owl:
prolly
16:06:21
orly_owl:
https://monerica.com/site/openmonero
16:06:47
orly_owl:
Location (HK) Hong Kong
16:06:57
nioc:
"Kenya"
16:07:28
orly_owl:
?
16:07:46
nioc:
where admin is from
16:07:58
gan:skhron.org:
That's good to be honest
16:08:13
orly_owl:
why
16:08:31
gan:skhron.org:
I think that LM got closed because the people behind it are U.S nationals
16:08:46
orly_owl:
probably most of the reason, yes
16:09:04
gan:skhron.org:
While Kenya isn't a free state, I've heard that they're too lazy to do anything
16:09:30
orly_owl:
also, probably easy to bribe someone in kenya
16:09:34
nioc:
I wonder if Cat is considered to have a nationality
16:10:01
orly_owl:
who
16:10:03
gan:skhron.org:
Furthermore, I'm not sure if Kenya even follows international sanctions
16:10:06
nioc:
probably can't get a passport
16:10:18
orly_owl:
do you have a cat
16:10:29
nioc:
do you have an owl
16:10:32
gan:skhron.org:
Nioc is the cat 🧌
16:10:42
orly_owl:
hrm
16:10:52
orly_owl:
nioc: in the freezer
16:10:53
gan:skhron.org:
On LM, it was impossible to trade with people from Iran, Iraq and so on
16:11:17
orly_owl:
do you need to trade with them
16:12:14
gan:skhron.org:
Not sure with Iraq, but yeah, I wouldn't mind dealing with Iran, and spreading that Agoristic feeling
16:13:07
gan:skhron.org:
I mean, they also excluded Russia because of sanctions, which had a large base of traders
16:13:13
orly_owl:
you could buy some saffron
16:13:54
gan:skhron.org:
The state would tax it, and you can see where the tax of people go in Iran
16:14:12
gan:skhron.org:
Imagine having stable internet connection
16:14:23
gan:skhron.org:
That's a Western propaganda
16:14:39
orly_owl:
they will set up satellite internet like cubans
16:15:20
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: The state is trying to jam Starlink satellites as well
16:15:42
orly_owl:
of course
16:15:43
gan:skhron.org:
So, it's rather painful to get anything going
16:17:07
orly_owl:
maybe they can do some point to point wireless links to neighboring nations
16:19:05
orly_owl:
https://monero.is lol
16:20:02
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: Kinda hard to do, it's mountainous, plus one of its neighbors is Turkmenistan, literally North Korea-like state
16:20:37
gan:skhron.org:
Also the first state to have allowlist-based internet connection
16:21:40
orly_owl:
disagreed, north korea is much worse than Turkmenistan
16:21:58
orly_owl:
Turkmenistan has a whitelist huh? interesting
16:22:05
gan:skhron.org:
Well, that's why I've said "North Korea-like"
16:22:18
orly_owl:
fair enough
16:22:34
gan:skhron.org:
The dictator in there wants to copy the state of North Korea, it seems
16:22:54
gan:skhron.org:
Obviously while failing at it in some ways
16:23:14
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: I think, it got soften in ~2007 or 2011
16:23:35
gan:skhron.org:
but yeah, it still was the first state to do that in Central Asia
16:24:42
orly_owl:
i think a key difference is Turkmenistan is geopolitically boring
16:25:13
orly_owl:
north korea is literally a buffer state between US military and china+russia
16:25:18
gan:skhron.org:
Yup, they can't keep the people in that easily
16:27:30
basses:matrix.org:
https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3-max-thinking
16:28:00
orly_owl:
https://atm.monero.is looks fun
16:28:10
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: Indeed, also Both China and Russia would suck North Korean's glizzy when it'd come to the defectors and deport them back into concentration camps
16:29:00
orly_owl:
just maintaining good relations with nations they share a land border with :)
16:30:04
orly_owl:
NK defectors usually declare themselves to authorities in thailand so they get handed over to south korea
16:33:27
nioc:
<orly_owl> https://atm.monero.is looks fun <<>> @seen siren
16:34:08
nioc:
wonder if there has been any activity with that project recently
16:34:41
orly_owl:
someone built an atm last year https://atm.monero.is/builds.html
16:37:19
kico:
plowsof, lol xD
17:32:16
basses:matrix.org:
> Goodbye Teams: with Visio, the French government will have its own sovereign videoconferencing application
17:32:18
basses:matrix.org:
it also is an open source suite
17:33:21
BlueyHealer:
Selfhostable, I hope?
17:34:30
basses:matrix.org:
BlueyHealer: yes
17:34:42
BlueyHealer:
nice
17:34:58
BlueyHealer:
I like how many places at once decided "F Microsoft"
17:34:58
basses:matrix.org:
https://github.com/suitenumerique/docs?tab=readme-ov-file#self-host
17:58:30
Cindy:
hi
18:01:18
DataHoarder:
nohello
18:01:34
DataHoarder:
:)
18:02:14
Cindy:
:(
18:20:08
plowsof:
meirl saying "is anyone here?" and getting kick banned by the OP immediately
19:12:13
basses:matrix.org:
This font is a vector interpretation of the venerable "Topaz" font, used on Amiga's workbench.
19:12:13
basses:matrix.org:
https://codeberg.org/ideasman42/font-topaz-ng
19:22:40
Cindy:
this guy wrote the paths and curves in TOML
19:23:00
Cindy:
that's..... hardcore
19:23:11
Cindy:
like writing music in assembly
19:23:47
Cindy:
oh wait https://codeberg.org/ideasman42/font-topaz-ng/src/branch/main/build_files/toml_from_blend.py
19:24:05
Cindy:
no he just made the glyphs in blender and then converted it into TOML
21:49:20
basses:matrix.org:
everyone is talking about clawdbot
21:51:04
Cindy:
"Clawdbot is a personal AI assistant you run on your own devices. "
21:51:25
Cindy:
only supports blackboxes over the internet
21:52:21
Cindy:
"Local is doable, but Clawdbot expects large context + strong defenses against prompt injection. Small cards truncate context and leak safety. Aim high: ≥2 maxed-out Mac Studios or equivalent GPU rig (~$30k+). "
21:52:34
Cindy:
30K in this economy?
21:53:23
basses:matrix.org:
has like 40k+ stars on github
21:53:53
Cindy:
they should just say "Clawdbot is a "personal" AI assistant that helps you become dependent on the slop lords"
21:53:54
basses:matrix.org:
Cindy: easy for average crypto miner
21:54:02
Cindy:
"and only personal if you're a rich person"
21:54:05
ravfx:xmr.mx:
would it work with 128GB vram and 512GB ram for offload?
21:54:44
Cindy:
ravfx: this is where RAM prices went to
21:55:00
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I just use Minimax 2.1 235B, Qwen3-Next 80B and GLM 4.7 for chatboting
21:55:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
All local. GLM is a little on the slow side
21:55:42
Cindy:
it's not personal in any way unless you're rich enough to buy and build a massive rig
21:55:56
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But it's really good at pissing systemd unit and bash script (GLM)
21:56:12
Cindy:
all it does is help AI slop lords extract more information and data from people
21:56:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, it's why I run all that shit local. I never touch remove AI
21:57:05
Cindy:
not everyone has the luxury to run it all locally
21:57:16
Cindy:
512GB ram is insane
21:57:19
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's quite bad they suck up all the ram to prevent people to make there own slopotron
21:58:06
Cindy:
30K is enough to get a fucking downpayment on a car
21:58:16
Cindy:
and i mean a new car
21:58:40
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/xfSUHyRGQLbHHzjYYTEqLkCQ.png (clipboard.png)
21:59:41
Cindy:
512GB of RAM is insane
22:00:43
Cindy:
well i dont really need a slopotron
22:00:51
Cindy:
i got this thing called a brain
22:01:00
plowsof:matrix.org:
flex
22:01:27
plowsof:matrix.org:
256GB of swap ok im poor i get it
22:01:32
Cindy:
my brain got 2.5PB of data
22:03:00
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I wonder if people would want to use xmr.mx slop if I offer LLM and image gen.
22:03:00
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Say if I offer medium sized model, sure it's less good that using the big ones but what about if I don't log anything
22:03:40
Cindy:
i don't trust that you don't log anything
22:04:22
ravfx:xmr.mx:
everything would be local only (not outsourcing anything)
22:04:35
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Cindy: You can't trust that anyone don't log anything
22:05:00
Cindy:
that's true
22:05:03
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Sometime it's hard to fight the thing when you disable syslog-ng and half the shit stop working when you reboot 😂
22:05:32
ravfx:xmr.mx:
certbot don't even auto-renew my certs anymore on xmr.mx since I gutted syslog... Have to fix that before it expire again lol
22:06:04
Cindy:
but i don't have a need for LLM
22:06:19
Cindy:
sometimes it's just easier for me to go look for info myself
22:09:31
Cindy:
also image gen? i just draw myself
22:10:13
Cindy:
sorry :P
22:10:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Sure, you dont have to use theses services
22:10:43
Cindy:
i do use AI, but for smaller scopes
22:11:14
Cindy:
like i made a GAN that generates instruments for Yamaha FM chips that just runs in CPU
22:11:41
Cindy:
because i didn't feel like fucking with 40 registers
22:11:56
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Lol
22:12:33
Cindy:
making models yourself is actually pretty hard
22:12:48
Cindy:
i have respect for those who make LLMs
22:12:58
Cindy:
i mean the researchers and shit, not the slop lords
22:13:06
Cindy:
the people who had nothing to do with the development
22:15:32
nioc:
you guys are my chatbot
22:15:48
Cindy:
i like the light AI models that can run in CPU only
22:15:56
Cindy:
even better, they run client-side on your browser
22:16:04
Cindy:
(this is possible with tensorflow.js)
22:17:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
You can also use llama-cpp
22:17:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
and offload to RAM
22:17:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
You can run some models surpsingly fast
22:18:01
Cindy:
i don't mean just LLMs
22:18:07
ravfx:xmr.mx:
like use your 16GB GPU, and if you have like 32GB of ram you can run 30B gwen and the like. (MoE models are really good at that)
22:18:18
Cindy:
"AI" is more than just LLMs :P
22:18:27
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
I am?
22:19:12
Cindy:
there are CNNs, GANs, RNNs, sometimes you can mix them
22:19:16
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Its also Actual Indians and Artificial Insemination
22:19:22
Cindy:
(actually more neural networks than those 3 i listed)
22:19:51
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I remember some corpo was using Actual Indians for there AI., don't remember the name
22:20:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
people got mad because it was "AI"
22:20:05
Cindy:
builder.ai
22:21:26
Cindy:
LSTMs are pretty good at generating slop text
22:21:39
Cindy:
while not being as inconherent as markov chain and inefficient as GPT
22:22:35
Cindy:
i use that as a tarpit for AI scrapers :P
22:24:33
basses:matrix.org:
u mental outlaw? > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/xfSUHyRGQLbHHzjYYTEqLkCQ.png (clipboard.png)
22:25:03
basses:matrix.org:
only person I know that is a "normie" not managing a data center wit threadripper
22:26:11
basses:matrix.org:
I saw vid by Lawrence systems apple M chips beating it at certain taks
22:26:11
basses:matrix.org:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMeBrM8vFEQ