07:54:00 321bob321: Gn nioc the matrix is back
08:52:22 basses:matrix.org: pixel 10 series is now officially supported by GrapheneOS
08:52:23 basses:matrix.org: https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices
08:55:22 nighteous:matrix.org: @basses:matrix.org: I'm already running it from the staging branch
08:55:22 nighteous:matrix.org: Do I need to reinstall or something? :O
08:55:35 sech1: No, it auto-updates
09:35:08 plowsof: I cant update my graphene os as the QR wont scan https://xcancel.com/vxdb/status/2011117782616653974
09:43:55 321bob321: Camera>scan
09:44:35 btcdwed: hi bois
09:53:22 BlueyHealer: basses, neat!
09:54:15 BlueyHealer: Heard of that a while back though - was it not fully stable?
09:57:15 btcdwed: plowsof LOL @ that video :D
09:57:38 btcdwed: bomb-on o/ :P
10:11:12 basses:matrix.org: BlueyHealer: it was experimental
10:31:19 bomb-on: btcdwed o/
10:36:19 BlueyHealer: Ah!
14:42:33 shitpost:monero.coffee: Do you guys use the pixel camera on graphene? I feel like the graphene default camera is not enough
15:19:06 reaster:matrix.reaster.dev: @shitpost:monero.coffee: they also provide the pixel camera app you know, just without any internet conection it's good
16:06:13 Cindy: i still have my stagenet wallet with 2 XMR in it
16:06:27 Cindy: what can i pay with that
16:06:39 BlueyHealer: I used to use it, but then realized the stock one was not different enough for me to care.
16:09:00 Cindy: all i'm trying to do is test my program lol
16:09:10 Cindy: i have to wait for it to sync
16:09:20 Cindy: from one of the only stagenet nodes that exist as of rn
19:32:48 billionarebear:matrix.org: As monero is rising from past 2-3 months people are now focused on now just accumulating xmr as much as possible its like early stage of btc now the btc has gone up so much it is being used as a currency but for xmr i think people are just buying for returns only
19:35:03 LibDem: the CIA has to pay all their 'overseas' assets - that creates demand
19:38:48 billionarebear:matrix.org: So what type of business can be build on monero
19:38:48 billionarebear:matrix.org: 1. swapping apps :- people will aggressively buy monero for next 2-3 year so those no kyc swapping will be in focus in coming year
19:38:48 billionarebear:matrix.org: Is anyone buying , spending monero on something?
19:47:22 321bob321: @shitpost:monero.coffee: Its shit when your zoom in a bit
19:47:28 321bob321: Becomes jerky
19:55:46 shitpost:monero.coffee: @321bob321: I use the pixel camera with network disabled, they need to improve it
20:09:41 321bob321: Someone made a fork where you can choose the photo gallery app, so doesnt try and open google photos
20:09:51 321bob321: But got updated last year
20:16:52 BlueyHealer: I've seen posts that since the recent update, it won't work without Google services. Was there a workaround?
20:18:03 basses:matrix.org: @321bob321: https://github.com/ryosoftware/GPhotosShim 2 years sir
20:19:01 basses:matrix.org: @321bob321: what about this https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/how-to-force-google-camera-to-open-another-gallery-instead-of-google-photos/12779/9 ?
20:20:20 BlueyHealer: I just assumed Photos would be no extra danger compared to Camera if trhe network permission is also kept off. But yeah, cool to know)
20:20:50 BlueyHealer: I meant the relatively recent posts that it outright didn't work without some nonessential Google component after an update.
20:41:46 321bob321: @basses:matrix.org: That's the one I was talking about
20:41:46 321bob321: https://github.com/ryosoftware/GPhotosShim/releases
20:41:46 321bob321: 2024
20:53:19 BlueyHealer: Ah, I was talking about a 2025 issue
20:58:07 BlueyHealer: Ah, they fixed that: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/27563-latest-pixel-camera-crashes-immediately-upon-launch-on-pixel-8-pro/8
21:09:00 321bob321: They need usability devs
21:15:35 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I find the pixel camera to be pretty bad
21:16:22 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: graphene camera is worse, ofc, but pixel camera is slow and pretty horrible in low light, especially unless you have the torch on
21:16:58 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: This compared to a huawei p20 or p30 from like 6 or 7 years ago
21:17:25 LibDem: nothing says privacy like spamming google-NSA propaganda
21:17:47 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: what am i doing wrong, side from believing the hype
21:17:54 LibDem: hey how many google-NSA spyphones did you buy today
21:18:55 LibDem: > They need usability devs
21:18:58 LibDem: they need extermination
21:48:50 basses:matrix.org: chinese software OS updates slow and only 3 major android updates
21:49:04 basses:matrix.org: also a lot of bloatware
21:49:33 basses:matrix.org: other than that, they are the only ones innovating rn, excluding design copy-cats from iphone and pixel
22:02:35 BlueyHealer: "Other than that"? You forgot spyware
22:02:52 Cindy: ^
22:03:16 Cindy: they're innovating how much they can block sites and also block anti-censorship tools
22:05:13 BlueyHealer: Has there been evidence of phones themselves doing that? I only know of network-level.
22:07:30 Cindy: just the great firewall
22:07:36 Cindy: and also the filters they put in messages
22:15:39 basses:matrix.org: u can run custom ROMS tho
22:16:40 basses:matrix.org: BlueyHealer: yes, https://citizenlab.ca/2024/04/chinese-keyboard-app-vulnerabilities-explained/
22:21:54 BlueyHealer: Ah, that one I knew of, I mean on a deeper level.
22:23:49 BlueyHealer: Wait this one is not the specific one I thought of, I thought of one particular Twitter thread regarding Signal.
22:24:48 basses:matrix.org: @plowsof:matrix.org u forgot how to ban?
22:25:11 BlueyHealer: Anyway, that seems similar. And I wonder if there are at least tolerable replacements.
22:25:46 basses:matrix.org: BlueyHealer: there are foss keyboard
22:26:08 basses:matrix.org: and u can use custom roms