00:22:39
321bob321:
Soo many selfhosted apps popping up are vibe coded or ai made
02:26:57
cornfeedhobo:
i rarely go on twitter, but man, why are crypto accounts so cringe?!
06:46:46
BlueyHealer:
321bob321, yeah :(
07:43:31
nighteous:matrix.org:
cornfeedhobo: Most of them are crypto bros only hyping for a 100x gain
07:56:19
modul8:matrix.org:
@nighteous:matrix.org: I just shit post there. I have another temp ban from a few days ago. Recommended someone how to blood let efficiently in response to investing in zcash. This was before the big dump.
08:10:13
nighteous:matrix.org:
@modul8:matrix.org: Oh interesting I just get spammed with "XMR greatest, Zcash nazi, buy xmr" posts, those are just repeating and mid
08:45:25
darkhappyman:
Do you have examples ? > <@321bob321> Soo many selfhosted apps popping up are vibe coded or ai made
09:06:31
gan:skhron.org:
cornfeedhobo: Sadly this world is overfilled with untechnicals and fools, those who do not care about the technological aspects or a necessity of it often simply gravitate towards the technology, which in their eyes, would make it possible to skip all the efforts required for real enrichment of oneself through labor, thus they often get punished for such view
09:09:56
BlueyHealer:
lol just as I encountered a comment. "An LLM does in an hour what a team of seniors does in a month - turns a new project into unsupportable legacy shit"
09:12:08
gan:skhron.org:
Unmaintainable code pays off well 🧌
09:14:01
gan:skhron.org:
A person couldn't be replaced if the next one in the line would be unable to even maintain the project without acquiring arcane knowledge beforehand
09:14:20
BlueyHealer:
At least is if it's human unmaintainable code, that gives the company a reason to never let you go because you're the only person understanding this))
10:57:59
Cindy:
https://0x0.st/PXPu.jpg
10:58:06
Cindy:
this is me with XMR cryptobros on twitter
12:19:17
321bob321:
@darkhappyman: Have a look on r/selfhosted
12:29:59
BlueyHealer:
I can't name specific examples, but I did come across this on Lemmy as well.
12:30:37
orly_owl:
lemmy outta here
12:30:42
BlueyHealer:
why?
12:30:53
orly_owl:
for the puns
12:31:17
BlueyHealer:
ah lol I assumed you had issues with the whole thing
12:31:27
orly_owl:
i barely know what lemmy is
12:31:36
BlueyHealer:
Fediverse Reddit.
12:31:44
orly_owl:
Lemmy is a free and open-source software for running self-hosted social news aggregation and discussion forums
12:31:47
orly_owl:
ah ok
12:33:09
BlueyHealer:
Like, was looking for how people transfer Spotify playlists to YT Music, and one of the linked website had first comments was suspicions of vibecoding the frontent.
12:33:20
orly_owl:
Cindy: how do you know theyre not iranian bots boosting xmr price to increase the ayatollah's reserves
12:41:41
BlueyHealer:
BTW it's annoying that at least the tools I've found at a cursory glance wanted Youtube login :( The whole reason I want that is because YT has alternative apps, and those don't require accounts!
12:46:12
orly_owl:
im currently trying to get past age restricted videos without making an account
12:46:22
orly_owl:
wish that was integrated into yt-dlp
12:48:11
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: Write a plugin?
12:48:49
gan:skhron.org:
I'm also certain that we already have rippers for age-gated video floating around on github
12:49:20
orly_owl:
hmmmm 'currently suspended due to the account proxy being down' https://github.com/pukkandan/yt-dlp-YTAgeGateBypass
12:50:37
gan:skhron.org:
strange ass reason for halting the development, but I guess the person couldn't afford a VPN/proxy
12:51:07
orly_owl:
lots of projects are stopped for any number of reasons really
12:51:11
gan:skhron.org:
If you'd like to step up your ripper games, use IPv6 and Googlet can't do shit against them
12:52:03
orly_owl:
id just like to use yt-dlp, not 'step up my ripper games'
12:52:20
gan:skhron.org:
currently it's the common method to rip in multiples spaces - https://docs.invidious.io/ipv6-rotator
12:52:26
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: What to say, users are losers
12:52:53
orly_owl:
they sure are!
12:53:14
BlueyHealer:
orly_owl | im currently trying to get past age restricted videos without making an account <- YES. I wish uploads to other platforms were more common. I'm so happy whenever I see someone I can follow elsewhere...
12:53:22
imprevisto:matrix.org:
yt-dlp = upped ripper games
12:53:48
orly_owl:
people barely stray from youtube, no one else is paying them to upload videos
12:54:06
imprevisto:matrix.org:
youtube doesn't pay either
12:54:34
orly_owl:
you aint a ho then
12:54:35
orly_owl:
gj
12:54:37
imprevisto:matrix.org:
it's like saying playing in a rock band pays
12:54:43
BlueyHealer:
orly_owl | wish that was integrated into yt-dlp <- I doubt that'd ever happen since this would require devs to maintaina few age-verified accounts accessible to public. However, given that Nitter already similarly requires accounts... I wonder if Invidious would ever have that as an option.
12:54:46
imprevisto:matrix.org:
lol
12:55:04
imprevisto:matrix.org:
u rite, no hoe
12:55:14
BlueyHealer:
but I guess the person couldn't afford a VPN/proxy <- I think age restrictions are global, at least usually
12:55:28
orly_owl:
i wish bugmenot.com would refuse to bar sites
12:55:39
orly_owl:
https://bugmenot.com/view/youtube.com
12:56:47
gan:skhron.org:
eh, sharing accounts among a small group is much preferable than using bugmenow
12:57:16
gan:skhron.org:
I'm surprised that it even worked for you in some capacity
12:57:45
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: age-verification doesn't matter at large
12:57:59
gan:skhron.org:
it could be easily bypassed at the moment
12:58:53
orly_owl:
howdo you bypass it
12:59:42
BlueyHealer:
gan, how so? The only method I know is using shared accounts. Saw an extension like this but I generally avoid extensions.
13:00:57
btcdwed:
orly_owl which video on YT do you want to watch?
13:01:24
BlueyHealer:
I'm honestly surprised this isn't an issue with Invidious already.
13:02:08
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: Mate... not a single corpo have an access to the database of the citizenry and nor their biometics, contextually you could just supply shit and it'd work
13:02:42
orly_owl:
idk what gan is on about
13:02:51
orly_owl:
btcdwed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIzTu5ew08k
13:03:10
btcdwed:
YT fucking up every week with a new "block,ban" mode
13:03:20
gan:skhron.org:
https://www.theverge.com/report/714402/uk-age-verification-bypass-death-stranding-reddit-discord
13:03:28
BlueyHealer:
gan, but the question isn't that you can "instantly travel to another country". In this particular case, the problem is that the age-restriction on Youtube is GLOBAL.
13:03:37
btcdwed:
i cant even watch it with "freetube"
13:03:39
gan:skhron.org:
I believed that worked for YouTube as well
13:03:56
BlueyHealer:
(another concern is that the number of countries that wouldn't require KYC for platforms is lowering steadily, but that
13:04:06
BlueyHealer:
but that's a different discussion entirely)
13:04:13
btcdwed:
orly_owl that videos looks like a normal video, why ist age banned?
13:04:48
BlueyHealer:
btcdwed, YES. At least you theoretically can with Pipepipe, but that also requires a verified account.
13:04:57
btcdwed:
yea
13:05:05
gan:skhron.org:
You're free to bullshit as always, the supposed abominable intelligence detection de facto can't detect stuff in such generalized setting > <BlueyHealer> gan, but the question isn't that you can "instantly travel to another country". In this particular case, the problem is that the age-restriction on Youtube is GLOBAL.
13:05:06
btcdwed:
i tested it on android @ pipepipe
13:05:09
btcdwed:
and windows @ freetube
13:05:13
btcdwed:
both not running that video
13:05:24
orly_owl:
btcdwed: nfi, maybe someone reported it? idk how youtube does things. do you have a way to bypass it?
13:05:24
btcdwed:
orly_owl just dl the video :P
13:05:29
orly_owl:
i tried
13:05:33
btcdwed:
i am trying
13:05:36
btcdwed:
give me a moment
13:05:37
btcdwed:
:P
13:05:46
orly_owl:
k
13:05:52
btcdwed:
did you try invidious?
13:05:58
BlueyHealer:
btcdwed | orly_owl that videos looks like a normal video, why ist age banned? <- The one I encounterered was apparently because one of the guests said "goon" :/
13:06:08
btcdwed:
lol
13:06:14
btcdwed:
i can say fakenews²²²²
13:06:17
orly_owl:
^yt prefers false positives
13:06:18
btcdwed:
but once saying goon
13:06:19
btcdwed:
i am banned
13:06:28
orly_owl:
yt-dlp sez" ERROR: [youtube] uIzTu5ew08k: Sign in to confirm your age. This video may be inappropriate for some users.
13:06:30
BlueyHealer:
gan, that reply doesn't answer the question of how you watch these videos.
13:07:03
BlueyHealer:
Like, you make a Google account and fool the verification somehow? But to make an account, you need a phone number first
13:07:15
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: the account is a hard requirement in certain cases, so it's the only option
13:07:46
orly_owl:
BlueyHealer: phone numbers dont need ID in a few countries, you have to spend money though (UK, USA, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand)
13:07:53
orly_owl:
Mexico too
13:08:06
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: Does Google enforce a phone number requirement for every country? but yeah - you're right, I forgot about that detail
13:08:50
btcdwed:
i think they want mone too
13:08:57
btcdwed:
money
13:09:09
btcdwed:
invidious wont play that video, no matter which instances, server using
13:09:13
btcdwed:
i think you rekt here owl :P
13:09:17
orly_owl:
clearly
13:09:28
btcdwed:
if yt-dlp cant do shit
13:09:31
btcdwed:
its mostly rekt
13:09:36
gan:skhron.org:
I wish that somebody would already think about integrating BitTorrent web, otherwise the situation would become shitter and shitter with each day passing
13:09:44
BlueyHealer:
orly_owl, well in mine (and in A LOT of others) ID is required! And I'm pretty sure registration codes are not even sent from Google to local numbers anymore (maybe it was temporary, idk)
13:09:57
orly_owl:
what dump of a country are you in
13:10:00
btcdwed:
my russian boys have hacked microG
13:10:08
btcdwed:
they have YT premium accs
13:10:09
btcdwed:
:P
13:10:11
orly_owl:
jk, most countries require ID for a phone number
13:10:20
btcdwed:
true
13:10:29
orly_owl:
https://prepaid-data-sim-card.fandom.com/wiki/Registration_Policies_Per_Country
13:10:29
BlueyHealer:
Apparently if you're on a phone and with a Google app, you can create an account without a phone number though. But IDK if this requires Play Integrity
13:10:53
orly_owl:
a prepaid sim is typically cheaper than a phone
13:11:16
BlueyHealer:
gan, you mean as in hosting? I think Peertube has that already.
13:11:42
BlueyHealer:
orly_owl, a) a prepaid sim would still be KYC which is uncomfortable; b) an emulator only costs you a bit of system resources.
13:11:58
btcdwed:
just order some regged sims online
13:12:02
btcdwed:
i can get you some
13:12:03
btcdwed:
:P
13:12:15
BlueyHealer:
(I'm just trying to learn a bit of Android reversing and idk if I'm too stupid for that)
13:12:24
orly_owl:
btcdwed: wrong, i listed some countries where you can get a prepaid sim without kyc
13:12:34
btcdwed:
yea, but not .de
13:12:43
btcdwed:
i am in .de
13:12:46
btcdwed:
Content offline!Error - uIzTu5ew08k [AKILA WILLA BEST MOMENTS]; Sign in to confirm your age
13:12:48
btcdwed:
my dl manager saying
13:12:49
btcdwed:
:P
13:12:50
orly_owl:
obv not, germans love regulations and red tape
13:13:07
gan:skhron.org:
Assuming this is possible that means the API could be simply called directly, thus there's probably a script for that > <BlueyHealer> Apparently if you're on a phone and with a Google app, you can create an account without a phone number though. But IDK if this requires Play Integrity
13:13:10
orly_owl:
btcdwed: get an irish sim card, roaming in EU is possible
13:13:17
btcdwed:
germans have a double ethic on different topics
13:13:44
btcdwed:
they forbid a lot, but if i break that law and nobody sees it, its ok
13:13:45
btcdwed:
:P
13:13:59
btcdwed:
i got my sim cards, thx owl :P
13:14:04
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: generally, it'd be nice if it was enforced by multiple youtube front-ends, including invidious
13:14:12
btcdwed:
did you try using an online service for sim cards?
13:14:17
orly_owl:
regged sims from darknet?
13:14:17
btcdwed:
just trash sim to make an acc?
13:14:18
BlueyHealer:
gan, not seen tools for that tbh.
13:14:27
btcdwed:
from an official store in my city owl
13:14:29
btcdwed:
i know the owner
13:14:30
btcdwed:
:P
13:14:37
orly_owl:
how nice
13:14:44
BlueyHealer:
I wonder if you'd need to pass some... "extra info" with the request to that API.
13:14:45
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: Peertube uses BitTorrent web
13:15:06
btcdwed:
https://www.malwarebytes.com/cybersecurity/howto/watch-youtube-without-age-restriction
13:15:06
BlueyHealer:
yeah
13:15:07
btcdwed:
LOL
13:15:11
btcdwed:
even malewarebytes giving tipps
13:15:12
btcdwed:
:D
13:15:22
gan:skhron.org:
> malwarebytes > <btcdwed> https://www.malwarebytes.com/cybersecurity/howto/watch-youtube-without-age-restriction
13:15:34
gan:skhron.org:
that was unexpected not gonna lie
13:15:38
btcdwed:
hehe
13:15:40
btcdwed:
same here :P
13:15:57
BlueyHealer:
TBH when I was watching from Peertube, at least for a while, it killed my internet connection until I rebooted. I have no idea what this was. on the other hand, normal torrents also used to sometimes do the same but they never do now...
13:16:00
btcdwed:
peertube isnt working too orly_owl?
13:16:08
orly_owl:
idk i dont have peertube
13:16:18
orly_owl:
didnt you test peertube
13:16:20
btcdwed:
https://peertube.tv/
13:17:55
orly_owl:
idk how to use this, search isnt working
13:18:53
BlueyHealer:
Looked at the Malwarebytes thing and it tells me nothing tho - they say "ye age-restricted content stays such". So?..
13:19:31
gan:skhron.org:
btcdwed: I mean, it's an alternative platform, not a different frontend, the amount of content there is rather lacking - I'd say
13:19:54
btcdwed:
yea
13:20:09
btcdwed:
malwarebytes wants to sell your their VPN i guess :D
13:20:15
BlueyHealer:
I wonder how easy it is to MITM traffic from an Android emulator. I want to see how the requests to Google look when creating an account and what exactly the difference is.
13:20:59
BlueyHealer:
And even then I don't know whether it's just their app that's enough or whole Play Integrity.
13:21:21
btcdwed:
orly_owl i think downloading the video is your only option for now
13:21:29
btcdwed:
i didnt find anything interesting
13:22:32
BlueyHealer:
Downloading the video? But it ends at the same roadblock, asking for age verification!
13:23:02
orly_owl:
^
13:23:16
orly_owl:
as i said above: yt-dlp sez: ERROR: [youtube] uIzTu5ew08k: Sign in to confirm your age. This video may be inappropriate for some users.
13:25:35
btcdwed:
use a web version of YT dl maybe
13:26:18
BlueyHealer:
Which ones are there that aren't sketchy?
13:26:39
BlueyHealer:
Invidious isn't, but it doesn't have "shared accounts".
13:26:56
Cindy:
no
13:27:00
Cindy:
it doesn't work anymore
13:27:14
Cindy:
the only method to download age restricted videos is give yt-dlp your youtube account cookies
13:27:30
BlueyHealer:
Yeah, that's what we've been talking about.
13:27:38
Cindy:
there used to be innertube clients that bypassed age restriction, but now google has patched all of those up
13:28:02
BlueyHealer:
So the question is a) services of shared accounts; b) creating an account without giving Google any sensitive info
13:28:02
Cindy:
so really, just login, export your cookies and give it to yt-dlp
13:28:37
Cindy:
there is no support for "shared accounts" on Invidious
13:28:54
Cindy:
mostly because with the amount of shit a public instance requests from youtube
13:28:58
BlueyHealer:
yeah
13:28:59
Cindy:
it'd get your account ToS'd
13:29:25
BlueyHealer:
To "log in", you need an account first, and creating one on Google is not trivial, that was the point.
13:29:34
Cindy:
yes
13:29:51
BlueyHealer:
Cindy, I just read that nitter does that so assumed it was eventually possible... So Google is stricter?
13:30:13
Cindy:
google attests your device during the registration process
13:30:18
gan:skhron.org:
Cindy: depends, they can't detect the fact that the account is being shared with 100% reliability, plus it's common to share accounts anyway therefore I highly doubt that
13:30:39
Cindy:
i've tried registering on grapheneOS, it got stuck at the "verifying your device" infinte loop page
13:31:00
gan:skhron.org:
Cindy: Nothing unchangeable then, just another vector to account for
13:31:13
BlueyHealer:
Ah, I just wanted to try creating a profile for Google services and doing that. So there is Play Integrity. Thanks!
13:31:54
Cindy:
BlueyHealer: xcancel set up their services before Xitter moved to device attestation
13:31:55
BlueyHealer:
TBH this topic does fascinate my a bit - after hearing a podcast about dating app and how the host got "device banned", I suspected Play Integrity was how, so read about how it's currently bypassed.
13:32:21
BlueyHealer:
I'd be kind of uncomfortable rooting my actual phone though so only the emulator (which I need for testing anyway).
13:32:27
Cindy:
you need an exploitable phone
13:32:45
Cindy:
and setup whatever app (like Xitter on it)
13:33:04
BlueyHealer:
gan, I think that activity of dozens of people downloading vids is pretty distinct, moreso than just a "family sharing an account".
13:33:06
Cindy:
and then exploit a vulnerability to unlock its bootloader without modifying the filesystem
13:33:30
Cindy:
then run unsigned code to extract info from the app's data directory to your computer
13:33:47
BlueyHealer:
Cindy | BlueyHealer: xcancel set up their services before Xitter moved to device attestation <- Never heard of that, will check out! Device attestation? So do they not allow registering from the browser anymore or what?
13:34:02
Cindy:
no, they attest your device even for guest usage
13:34:18
Cindy:
like if you're just browsing
13:34:29
BlueyHealer:
Ah, you mean less intrusive than Play Integrity.
13:34:51
Cindy:
all of these use Google SafetyNet
13:35:12
BlueyHealer:
SafetyNet is deprecated, Play Integrity is the current replacement, iirc.
13:35:44
BlueyHealer:
I'm more asking what happens when you register or use the site on a desktop browser.
13:35:58
Cindy:
there's no attestation in desktop i think
13:36:20
Cindy:
but you are pretty limited
13:36:55
Cindy:
i don't know more than that, i think you should talk to unixfox about this :P
13:37:14
Cindy:
he maintains xcancel.com
13:37:15
BlueyHealer:
I deleted my Twitter in 2023 so not aware of the more recent things indeed
13:38:56
BlueyHealer:
...Anyway, this all sounds way too complex for just downloading a vid that got age-restricted for a guest saying "goon".
13:41:18
Cindy:
amazing
13:41:43
BlueyHealer:
But yeah, it'd be interesting to talk to a Nitter instance maintainer, just don't feel comfortable randomly reaching out. Or to the inv.nadeko.net maintainer because they made some changes to their Invidious version back when the normal one was fully broken)
13:42:07
Cindy:
i think it's just "the"
13:42:48
BlueyHealer:
No, I think there are some Nitter instances working now.
13:43:43
Cindy:
honestly just make a google account and download the video while you still can
13:43:54
Cindy:
it won't be much until they start asking you for your ID to download the same video :P
13:47:00
orly_owl:
or use that game UK kids use to bypass facial id checks
13:47:24
orly_owl:
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/gamers-bypass-uk-age-verification-with-death-stranding-no-real-face-or-vpn-required
13:47:59
orly_owl:
pity the game is 69gib https://thepiratebay.org/search.php?q=Death+Stranding
13:53:37
BlueyHealer:
Cindy | it won't be much until they start asking you for your ID to download the same video :P <- Don't they, though? You need not just an account, but an age-verified one.
13:53:53
BlueyHealer:
Also again - I'd be really uncomfortable making one with my phone number.
13:54:02
Cindy:
yeah but age-verified = your date of birth is set to 18 years prior
13:54:04
gan:skhron.org:
orly_owl: I must say, nice.
13:54:08
Cindy:
or older
13:54:14
Cindy:
as of now
13:54:16
orly_owl:
oh the game bypass
13:54:18
BlueyHealer:
Cindy, I think that's been cracked down on recently
13:54:28
Cindy:
not in all countries
13:54:42
orly_owl:
yes who knew kids would find a way to bypass stuff so they can stay on social media
13:54:56
orly_owl:
BlueyHealer i can sell you an anon phone number :)
13:54:56
BlueyHealer:
Kids? As if adults aren't barred!
13:55:06
orly_owl:
right them too
13:55:09
orly_owl:
shitty system
13:55:10
BlueyHealer:
no thanks not doing commerce with online randoms
13:55:19
Cindy:
just buy a fake ID
13:55:19
orly_owl:
why not? we can use multisig
13:55:32
orly_owl:
buys a fake id with Cindy's pic on it
13:55:37
BlueyHealer:
Thankfully, the vids I wanted did get reuploaded with some parts cut.
13:55:53
Cindy:
orly_owl: i think it needs to be of a human
13:56:02
orly_owl:
oh right, youre a bot
13:56:21
Cindy:
:P
13:56:22
BlueyHealer:
Cindy in all seriousness - I bet there are at least some people risking prison for an account like this :/
13:56:40
Cindy:
yeah but, y'know what they say
13:56:40
Cindy:
risking it for the biscuit
13:56:45
gan:skhron.org:
If we're talking about online verification, an ID could be easily made > <Cindy> just buy a fake ID
13:56:48
orly_owl:
irc illegal revolutionary chat
13:57:09
BlueyHealer:
Also, are rental numbers likely to get an account banned? I know some sites are really strict about the number being "real".
13:57:24
BlueyHealer:
Like Google, Facebook or Apple.
13:57:47
orly_owl:
i only sell real sim cards baby
13:57:56
BlueyHealer:
gan, I still feel like this could be breaking some law. Just not worth it.
13:58:22
gan:skhron.org:
If you're talking about a fake id, presenting a fake ID to a police officer is illegal, but presenting a fake ID to the online platform is not, at least not yet > <BlueyHealer> Cindy in all seriousness - I bet there are at least some people risking prison for an account like this :/
13:59:21
Cindy:
^
13:59:26
BlueyHealer:
Facial scans? That's more fuzzy at least, and setting up a fake cam should be easy on Linux (I guess it compares with setting up a media player as a "mic" which I know is doable). However, I know some services are asking to change the face dynamically specifically to counter static images and fake feeds like this.
13:59:40
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: In Russland, there's literally have kiddies making IDs for KYCs as commissions and nobody cares, that's a real common thing since as I've said there's no way for corpos to verify the data at all
13:59:52
BlueyHealer:
gan, I guess so... Still feels dangerous. Like the fact that you have a fake one at all...
13:59:53
Cindy:
BlueyHealer: you can just rent GPUs to do deepfake on
14:00:14
Cindy:
you can do real-time deepfake i think
14:00:31
BlueyHealer:
I assumed they weren't entirely realtime, but will look at this.
14:00:46
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: only thing that you have to avoid is impersonation, that's avoidable by using totally fake data
14:00:51
BlueyHealer:
As much as I despise GenAI, this would be one use of it that's GOOD.
14:01:07
BlueyHealer:
Making up an account just to watch a video where someone swears.
14:01:25
BlueyHealer:
gan, what about accidental matches?
14:01:30
Cindy:
BlueyHealer: https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam
14:01:36
Cindy:
this
14:02:02
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: Very unlikely to happen
14:02:13
BlueyHealer:
If you make up a generic believable name, chances are there is a person who's named that, and that could cause complications.
14:02:54
BlueyHealer:
hmm
14:03:22
Cindy:
this is actually real-time
14:03:27
BlueyHealer:
...Anyway, I don't even know how to get past the phone number lol
14:03:40
Cindy:
you just need a good GPU
14:04:08
BlueyHealer:
has an integrated GPU and 16 gigs of RAM
14:04:26
orly_owl:
good enough
14:04:31
Cindy:
i dunno
14:04:32
btcdwed:
dont be ashamed for a 9070
14:04:34
btcdwed:
:P
14:08:15
BlueyHealer:
Anyway, I think on the laptop I have generating live video is out of the question XD
14:09:56
orly_owl:
just zoom in on a stranger's face in public
14:10:08
Cindy:
just hope they turn
14:10:26
orly_owl:
yes
14:12:47
BlueyHealer:
Now that's just immoral.
14:13:18
gan:skhron.org:
It is
14:15:12
orly_owl:
not if they are ugly
14:21:21
BlueyHealer:
Okay, jokes aside, I thought we were talking about how we'd actually deal with that.
14:21:52
BlueyHealer:
TBH I'm absolutely sure YT would eventually loginwall the entire site, because Twitter did that already. I'm doing my part and downloading everything I like.
14:30:45
orly_owl:
we are, sometimes
14:31:10
orly_owl:
nah, too much ad revenue from ppl who watch yt regularly but dont have an account
14:31:32
orly_owl:
mmm, money -google
14:35:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Imajin seeing ads on Internet
14:35:30
BlueyHealer:
Like, they already tell me to go log in at random times - it just goes away after a while.
14:39:59
ravfx:xmr.mx:
UK want to ban X.. Again
14:40:28
ravfx:xmr.mx:
They dont like Grok GenSlop capability or something
14:42:46
BlueyHealer:
eh I feel like the Safety Act got people to use tools-that-shall-not-be-named anyway
14:50:47
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, there wanting to ban X over slop is just a pretext or excuse. They just don't like X.
15:00:22
BlueyHealer:
Here it's already banned, still popular. Same for Insta and Youtube.
15:00:53
BlueyHealer:
Facebook is banned too and it is not very popular bwcause Facebook was not as big to begin with.
15:04:07
orly_owl:
banned in germany? wtf
15:09:42
BlueyHealer:
Searched that and no, not seeing such news about Germany.
15:09:48
BlueyHealer:
Where did you get that?
15:10:19
orly_owl:
from you
15:10:25
orly_owl:
< BlueyHealer> Facebook is banned too
15:11:32
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yeah, it's expected that a country that are at war are banning medias from it's rival
15:26:44
nioc:
the future is even better than they promised
15:26:59
nioc:
technology will fix everything
15:28:10
nioc:
how old do you have to be before you no longer need age verification?
15:28:27
nioc:
certainly I must be there by now
15:28:45
gan:skhron.org:
nioc: when a person would reach death
15:28:53
nioc:
lol
15:31:33
nioc:
in other news montero is $463
15:31:42
nioc:
ATH next month
15:36:10
gan:skhron.org:
That's lovely
15:44:04
BlueyHealer:
orly_owl, I'm not German tho
15:44:12
BlueyHealer:
I'm not even quite European
15:44:40
gan:skhron.org:
Interesting statement
15:45:18
BlueyHealer:
nioc, wdym? That applies in real life when the alcomarket can see "yup that's definitely over 18", online there is no such thing. Maybe for an account created early enough.
15:45:25
gan:skhron.org:
I thought we're all here pure-blooded Aryans 🧌
15:45:47
BlueyHealer:
I think that's an inappropriate joke.
15:46:05
gan:skhron.org:
eh, perhaps so
15:46:31
gan:skhron.org:
not that I'm European by Hitler's definition either
15:48:46
nioc:
BlueyHealer: here they are supposed to check your id no matter how you look
15:50:09
BlueyHealer:
Here it is the same, but in general there is some "safe distance" after which it is lax. Like, I'm in my 20s and would be ID'd always, but that's not flattery, that's just what is supposed to happen.
15:50:35
Cindy:
what did the german kid say when the juice tasted weird :P
15:50:49
Cindy:
sorry sorry that's a crappy joke
15:59:12
orly_owl:
HAHA GET IT FUNNY COS JUICE AND JEWS SOUND SIMILAR
15:59:28
orly_owl:
Cindy maintaining the low standards in here as usual
15:59:36
Cindy:
i got that joke from a rucka rucka ali comment section
15:59:50
orly_owl:
i have no idea what that is
16:00:05
Cindy:
he makes parodies of songs.. but in a political way
16:00:15
orly_owl:
the source of the joke really doesnt make it any better, or worse
16:00:23
orly_owl:
yes, a "political" way
16:00:27
Cindy:
yeah, i know it's a really terrible joke
16:00:52
orly_owl:
hey Cindy do you know who asked about you the other day?
16:00:53
orly_owl:
no one
16:01:12
Cindy:
i see
16:01:16
orly_owl:
why does Cindy stink? so the blind can hate her too
16:01:32
Cindy:
okay
16:01:38
orly_owl:
:-)
16:02:15
Cindy:
i know it's CoD-tier edginess
16:02:25
Cindy:
you don't have to like..
16:02:28
Cindy:
do all that
16:02:44
orly_owl:
indeed i dont, but its fun
16:03:19
orly_owl:
my condolences Cindy
16:03:32
orly_owl:
clearly whoever gave you that haircut died in the middle of it
16:04:00
Cindy:
i see :P
16:04:05
orly_owl:
^_^
16:04:29
Cindy:
clearly we are maintaining the low standards together
16:05:15
orly_owl:
hardly, my jokes are not aimed at any particular demographic
16:05:58
orly_owl:
also i wanted to thank you for your help during 9/11
16:06:13
Cindy:
what
16:06:16
orly_owl:
you let all the planes land on your big forehead
16:07:05
Cindy:
guess i did
16:08:57
orly_owl:
this fx-cp400 wont turn on, probably dead
16:08:59
orly_owl:
:(
16:09:07
Cindy:
it probably saw me :P
16:09:21
orly_owl:
it sure did
16:10:09
orly_owl:
it decided an early death was best
16:11:01
BlueyHealer:
CoD-tier? You know how many times I hear the N-word and worse in TF2 lobbies?
16:11:22
Cindy:
i didn't say Juliu-tier now :P
16:11:37
orly_owl:
whats wrong with saying narcolepsy
16:11:38
BlueyHealer:
I can't really be upseg because I know he's either a basement dweller or twelve
16:11:41
Cindy:
then again, CoD voice chats are like Juliu
16:13:12
Cindy:
BlueyHealer: how's a TF2 lobby like
16:14:03
orly_owl:
which online games are people nice in
16:14:42
Cindy:
orly_owl: none
16:14:54
orly_owl:
ok
16:15:07
Cindy:
even WoW, a game which had tried so hard to stop that kind of shit
16:15:17
Cindy:
people ended up reusing the bait emote to tell people to kill themselves
16:15:20
Cindy:
because it looked like a noose
16:15:40
orly_owl:
why didnt wow just ban accounts until people got nicer
16:15:58
orly_owl:
is the answer money
16:16:06
basses:matrix.org:
https://joyofcryptography.com/
16:16:26
BlueyHealer:
Cindy, most of the time nothing offensive tbh, we all share a braincell
16:16:36
BlueyHealer:
But edgelords happen
16:18:06
Cindy:
orly_owl: they changed how the bait emote looked to make it look less like a noose
16:18:12
Cindy:
and then removed it altogether
16:18:44
BlueyHealer:
lol
16:19:06
Cindy:
because even though they changed how it looked, you can't change the fact that it's a dogwhistle for suicide now :P
16:19:16
BlueyHealer:
What is common tho is porn on the sign weapon
16:21:09
BlueyHealer:
also tbh I still don't know good vanilla-like community servers :/
16:22:02
orly_owl:
that reflects on you more than anything
16:25:10
BlueyHealer:
Yeah I know I just haven't looked that much. You know some?
16:25:24
orly_owl:
nope dont play wow
16:25:35
orly_owl:
easy fix
16:27:16
BlueyHealer:
I've never been in WoW tho, I play TF2
16:29:39
Cindy:
i never actually played TF2... on the PC
16:29:45
Cindy:
i have played TF2 on the PS3
16:30:02
gan:skhron.org:
Poor Cindy
16:30:28
orly_owl:
time to put Cindy out of her misery
16:30:33
orly_owl:
loads shotgun
16:31:13
Cindy:
wat
16:31:46
orly_owl:
some things just have to be done Cindy
16:31:53
BlueyHealer:
never had a dedicated gaming device
16:31:59
Cindy:
i just like the simplicity of the PS3 version of TF2
16:32:05
Cindy:
the PC version was like F2P vs P2P
16:32:17
Cindy:
if you're F2P, people think you're garbage
16:32:20
orly_owl:
BlueyHealer: theyre all hackable
16:32:25
Cindy:
and then there's hats
16:32:29
Cindy:
and gambling
16:32:39
Cindy:
the console version is just simpler in comparsion
16:32:41
BlueyHealer:
Yeah I know but I'm talking more about not spwnding money on a specific device.
16:33:05
Cindy:
BlueyHealer: i don't blame you
16:33:09
orly_owl:
aye
16:33:14
Cindy:
they used to be different before the PS4
16:33:18
Cindy:
now they're just PCs
16:33:24
Cindy:
and switch is the android tablet
16:33:49
BlueyHealer:
Especially when you're young and can't buy such things yourself yet. I think most kids around me also played on PCs (or mobile, because not everyone had their own computer yet).
16:34:30
orly_owl:
switch is a tablet with controls on the sides
16:34:46
BlueyHealer:
I know a few people with hacked Switches. Given how much Nintendo games cost and how they apparently never go on sale, I can't imagine using it stock.
16:34:55
Cindy:
i wouldn't recommend a console to you
16:35:02
Cindy:
just like.. go play on PC
16:35:07
BlueyHealer:
orly_owl, literally! It has a mobile chipset.
16:35:17
BlueyHealer:
Cindy, or a Steamdeck
16:35:30
orly_owl:
...id be very surprised if switch /didnt/ have a mobile chipset
16:35:31
Cindy:
yeah Steam deck is nice
16:35:46
BlueyHealer:
I got to play some Switch games on it and it seems better than the real deal.
16:36:33
Cindy:
you know that Switch 2 is heavily based off of the Switch hardware
16:36:41
BlueyHealer:
orly_owl, I mean yeah, but I remember being surprised at how underpowered it actually is, and surprised at what device it shares the chipset with.
16:36:55
Cindy:
due to the fact that if it wasn't, nintendo wouldn't go after switch emulator devs leading up to the launch
16:37:40
orly_owl:
nintendo produces 2 things; game consoles and lawsuits
16:38:15
Cindy:
yuzu devs could just reuse existing code to make their switch 2 emulator faster
16:38:25
Cindy:
and nintendo didn't want that
17:34:35
nioc:
men willingly believe what they wish --Julius Caesar
17:35:48
nioc:
the difference between man and other animals is his ability to make shit up --nioc
21:10:30
nioc:
unix v4 tape recently found
21:10:53
nioc:
2MB :)
22:13:01
321bob321:
Did you use AI?Yes i did use AI i used generative AI for the logo which i plan to change and pay a real artist for a more personalized picture.
22:13:01
321bob321:
I wrote 90% of the code and only a few AI code is here which i checked before placing it in to my code, every code that was wrriten purely by AI has the text "// -------- [AI Content] may contain some alucination -------- to indicate that i used AI for that specific component.
22:13:01
321bob321:
I tried my best to keep this code as clean as possible, so i hope it can be manteined with ease for me or other devs.[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/jO3gm9sKVVFxZHNz ]
22:13:15
321bob321:
At least there honest
22:13:58
Cindy:
what is this in response to?
22:15:50
321bob321:
https://github.com/jnunez2301/jellyfin-wireless-remote?tab=readme-ov-file#did-you-use-ai
23:09:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/bose-extends-soundtouch-cloud-support-deadline-open-sources-api
23:09:04
ravfx:xmr.mx:
So rare, actually releasing API details after product discontinuation
23:12:46
torir:matrix.org:
https://gizmodo.com/french-tax-agent-allegedly-sold-personal-data-of-crypto-users-to-criminals-2000707279
23:12:55
torir:matrix.org:
Another day, another data breach.
23:16:13
Cindy:
this is dumb
23:16:54
Cindy:
nothing i can say can ever describe how utterly stupid this is
23:18:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@torir:matrix.org: Kidnap You Customers, KYC
23:22:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/rFzGldzcLhwhXYCbdeJgnyMr.jpg (Nasa did not get cut finally!!! Beside the normal scam thing called fiat/inflation)
23:26:57
trolling.:matrix.org:
Cindy_: >tbh going with monerochan would re-enforce the fact that only basement-dwellers use monero
23:26:57
trolling.:matrix.org:
lol ok dude, u can stop acting like you're not a basement-dweller
23:26:57
trolling.:matrix.org:
remember this chat?: https://libera.monerologs.net/monero/20251104
23:26:57
trolling.:matrix.org:
"fbfa3bd15e"
23:26:57
trolling.:matrix.org:
that was called out for being a irc boomer hipster and being a creep that keeps logs on people
23:26:58
trolling.:matrix.org:
then came back later with the "Cindy" username, acting like u didnt get called a irc boomer hipster
23:26:58
trolling.:matrix.org:
u did alot of bullying in that chat
23:27:03
trolling.:matrix.org:
you can stop acting, you're a creep, a bully, a basement dweller and an irc boomer hipster "cindy" LOL
23:27:25
Cindy:
go to #monero
23:27:40
Cindy:
not -offtopic
23:27:45
trolling.:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/iWEgQhYjALkMoUnRwcIEXmwg.png (image.png)
23:27:58
trolling.:matrix.org:
🖕
23:28:00
Cindy:
you're in offtopic
23:28:10
Cindy:
i made that message in #monero
23:28:20
Cindy:
but whatevs, kitty
23:28:25
trolling.:matrix.org:
this is offtopic discussion
23:28:54
Cindy:
also fbfa3bd15e is my NickServ name
23:29:06
Cindy:
DataHoarder switched from displaying the host mask to displaying the real name
23:29:15
Cindy:
i'm still user/fbfa3bd15e in my whois
23:29:29
trolling.:matrix.org:
and yet u still acted like you were 2 different people
23:29:34
Cindy:
no i didn't
23:29:41
trolling.:matrix.org:
yea u did LOL
23:29:50
trolling.:matrix.org:
back in november i mean
23:30:03
Cindy:
also what is that log for
23:30:08
Cindy:
i'm not even in it
23:30:24
Cindy:
oh yeah
23:30:25
Cindy:
i am
23:30:28
Cindy:
as fbfa3bd15e
23:30:37
DataHoarder:
Cindy: if registered user != used nick or display name, it'll attempt to display "display name (user)"
23:30:40
Cindy:
i just had to scroll down a bit
23:30:48
trolling.:matrix.org:
both "fbfa3bd15e" and "Cindy" do show in that log, stop gaslighting lol
23:31:04
trolling.:matrix.org:
you can ctrl+f
23:31:06
Cindy:
yeah i saw :P
23:31:09
Cindy:
i just scrolled down
23:31:14
Cindy:
but that's not even a secret
23:31:19
Cindy:
i am fbfa3bd15e
23:31:21
Cindy:
and fbfa3bd15e is me
23:31:30
Cindy:
so like.... what's the problem here?
23:32:46
trolling.:matrix.org:
right, and yet you denied being called a "irc boomer hipster" from the "Cindy" handle
23:32:46
trolling.:matrix.org:
(which in that log you been called that when you been on the "fbfa3bd15e" handle)
23:33:01
Cindy:
bro, what are you arguing
23:33:06
Cindy:
i never denied being fbfa3bd15e
23:33:13
Cindy:
i do not get your point
23:33:56
Cindy:
such a nice channel where i get attacked for expressing my opinion
23:34:03
trolling.:matrix.org:
ctrl + f for "irc boomer hipster", there's 2 results, you'll get your answer
23:34:22
Cindy:
okay soooo?
23:35:10
Cindy:
you are arguing about a non-issue
23:35:22
trolling.:matrix.org:
"fbfa3bd15e matrix users are always super annoying i wonder why"
23:35:22
trolling.:matrix.org:
to which you got the reply: "ok irc boomer hipster lmao"
23:35:22
trolling.:matrix.org:
then: "@Cindy: u didnt like being called an irc boomer hipster right? x)"
23:35:22
trolling.:matrix.org:
to which you replied: "i don't remember when someone called me that"
23:35:38
trolling.:matrix.org:
you acted like you was 2 different people like i wouldnt notice so you could keep doing the bullying that u did
23:35:55
Cindy:
bro is drafting up a lawsuit
23:36:03
trolling.:matrix.org:
facts
23:36:05
trolling.:matrix.org:
i got the receipts
23:36:38
trolling.:matrix.org:
just letting u know, u can drop the act now
23:36:42
trolling.:matrix.org:
"cindy"
23:36:43
DataHoarder:
the matrix troll is confused how irc works
23:36:45
Cindy:
what act :P
23:36:50
Cindy:
DataHoarder: exactly
23:36:55
Cindy:
i don't know wtf is kitty talking about
23:36:59
DataHoarder:
and how shit Cindy's connection is
23:37:04
DataHoarder:
probably one of the times you join as Cindy_
23:37:06
trolling.:matrix.org:
keep playing dumb lol
23:37:06
Cindy:
fbfa3bd15e is grouped to my nickserv acccount
23:37:20
Cindy:
it would be borderline retarded for me to pretend i'm not that nick
23:37:26
trolling.:matrix.org:
and yet u did
23:37:30
Cindy:
when someone can do a /whois on me
23:37:30
DataHoarder:
wait lemme see the matrix history
23:37:32
trolling.:matrix.org:
the logs are the proof that u did
23:37:42
DataHoarder:
kitty is probably confused due to the bridge lol
23:37:57
Cindy:
whatever, i got more important shit to work on
23:38:11
Cindy:
you can keep arguing over something everyone knows
23:38:26
nioc:
if you want someone to argue with try an ai
23:38:42
trolling.:matrix.org:
^ that's what ofrn said instead of paying me the 10xmr for winning the bet "i got more important shit to work on"
23:38:42
trolling.:matrix.org:
that's both your think when loosing an argument i guess lol
23:39:05
trolling.:matrix.org:
which, am still waiting on that payout from ofrn, he never paid
23:39:21
DataHoarder:
yep Cindy you joined as fbfa3bd15e user on irc side
23:39:24
Cindy:
yes
23:39:31
Cindy:
i did
23:39:34
DataHoarder:
so my bridge saw nick = services account
23:39:42
DataHoarder:
and removed the Cindy part you keep in realname
23:39:46
DataHoarder:
while whois had Cindy lol
23:39:48
Cindy:
damn
23:39:54
Cindy:
that makes sense now
23:39:55
DataHoarder:
"@irc_fbfa3bd15e:monero.social"
23:40:28
DataHoarder:
https://irc.gammaspectra.live/bdb0c015194e824a/image.png
23:41:18
trolling.:matrix.org:
👍️
23:41:27
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
"you acted like you was 2 different people like i wouldnt notice so you could keep doing the bullying that u did"
23:41:27
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Bitch, youre 45 different ppl and crashoit when i bring it up
23:41:27
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
pot calling thr kettle black.
23:41:35
Cindy:
soooo.. this was all just a big misunderstanding?
23:41:53
Cindy:
well, next time i'll tell my client to never nick myself fbfa3bd15e :P
23:41:57
trolling.:matrix.org:
nah lol
23:42:10
trolling.:matrix.org:
anyways, am out, cya
23:42:39
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Don't come back
23:42:40
Cindy:
also the message that kitty quoted at the beginning was the message i sent on #monero
23:42:50
Cindy:
they replied to my message in the wrong channel
23:43:01
DataHoarder:
[18:02:19] *** Quits: fbfa3bd15e (~Cindy@user/fbfa3bd15e) (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
23:43:01
DataHoarder:
[18:03:35] *** Joins: fbfa3bd15e (~Cindy@user/fbfa3bd15e) fbfa3bd15e
23:43:17
Cindy:
DataHoarder: do the math :P
23:44:49
DataHoarder:
you also had Sindy, and Sindy_ day before, all under that account ofc
23:44:58
Cindy:
oh yeah
23:45:00
DataHoarder:
it's just bridge behavior
23:45:02
Cindy:
those were my halloween nicks
23:45:13
DataHoarder:
changed nick back and forth, some of those were mapped
23:45:19
Cindy:
speaking of, i never got to have a christmas nick :(
23:45:30
DataHoarder:
these events are sent with low prio (or it takes down the homeserver lol)
23:46:39
DataHoarder:
anyhow Cindy kitty accuses others of their own behavior, it's the classic way
23:46:47
DataHoarder:
you claim others are cheating cause you are cheating etc.
23:46:55
Cindy:
i was confused over what kitty trying to get at anyway
23:47:11
Cindy:
like they were stating the fact i was fbfa3bd15e, which is like.... yeah i was
23:47:19
DataHoarder:
it was ME all along! writing that bridge nick/display logic on matrix side
23:47:23
Cindy:
i never really tried to hide that
23:47:59
DataHoarder:
basically, you showed in matrix as Cindy (fbfa3bd15e) and Sindy (fbfa3bd15e) sometimes, and then fbfa3bd15e
23:48:11
DataHoarder:
which ofc nick = account, so it displays just fbfa3bd15e
23:48:33
DataHoarder:
but that's also the reason why bridge attempts to display the other parts :)
23:49:16
DataHoarder:
here enjoy this mess https://git.gammaspectra.live/WeebDataHoarder/matirc/src/branch/master/cmd/poold/matrix.go#L734
23:49:21
DataHoarder:
see updateMatrixProfileNoLock
23:49:23
Not_Cindy:
i'm totally that irc boomer hipster
23:49:34
Not_Cindy:
you know me
23:49:44
DataHoarder:
that's the logic update for irc->matrix
23:49:44
Cindy:
no i don't know you, who are you?
23:49:56
Not_Cindy:
that dumb boomer! you know!
23:49:59
DataHoarder:
this can sometimes ... fail depending on state or joinrate
23:50:08
Cindy:
just get out :P
23:50:33
Cindy:
now how did that look in matrix?
23:50:37
DataHoarder:
besides the first join, anything after gets the proper display names https://irc.gammaspectra.live/3b1cdfd74815e205/image.png
23:50:46
DataHoarder:
join -> display name change
23:50:51
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Can see you join leave instantly
23:51:00
DataHoarder:
not bad tbh
23:51:02
DataHoarder:
spammy as fuck
23:51:03
Cindy:
i see
23:51:06
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Leave join*
23:51:08
DataHoarder:
almost as annoying as nick changes in irc
23:51:32
DataHoarder:
bridge handled it as intended
23:52:43
Cindy:
well.. i'm sure i can confuse matrix users with it :P
23:54:07
DataHoarder:
only if you were not using an account
23:54:19
DataHoarder:
then it may show your hostmask