06:46:59 lza_menace: does anyone run zmq ports publicly or is that frowned upon / bad to do?
06:57:50 DataHoarder: zmq-pub is used for p2pool mining and there's a couple out in the open, the other ZMQ interface, I don't know
06:59:33 lza_menace: i should add it to .fail to have it check if the port is up
07:00:14 lza_menace: found about a dozen so far
08:27:06 lza_menace: vtnerd: why might I receive these error messages constantly from lws? REST error: Max subaddresses exceeded - i'm using Skylight wallet and not using any subaddresses
08:28:54 lza_menace: actually, it seems unimportant because it's still processing blocks and receiving txes
09:41:29 everchange000:matrix.org: what's a commonly accepted API for querying the XMR price in USD and EUR?
09:57:14 eddie:oblak.be: Coingecko, etc
11:39:53 321bob321: Use cersys to scan for the port
12:21:28 binarybaron:matrix.org: are fees going to go up significantly with fcmp?
14:03:07 isofaesef:matrix.org: yo
14:04:33 isofaesef:matrix.org: 5 people saw my message but nobody responded for some reason
14:04:42 isofaesef:matrix.org: if you can see my message, respond to it
14:05:28 isofaesef:matrix.org: if you 3 people who saw my message don't respond, i'm gonna DDoS this homeserver
14:05:34 uncle_rae: has rotten disappeared?
14:05:46 isofaesef:matrix.org: hey uncle_rae
14:06:03 isofaesef:matrix.org: uncle_rae: yo
14:06:03 uncle_rae: hola
14:06:14 Anonomys25: heya
14:06:17 isofaesef:matrix.org: uncle_rae: do you want me to DDoS this homeserver
14:06:28 isofaesef:matrix.org: if you don't respond within the next 10 seconds, i'm gonna ddos it anyway
14:06:33 uncle_rae: no thanks
14:06:35 Anonomys25: Why y'all trying to DDos the Home Server? o-o
14:06:43 Anonomys25: Damn, kinda toxic lol
14:06:59 isofaesef:matrix.org: Anonomys25: i'm gonna ddos it
14:07:00 isofaesef:matrix.org: in 5
14:07:02 isofaesef:matrix.org: 4
14:07:12 isofaesef:matrix.org: 3
14:07:14 isofaesef:matrix.org: 2
14:07:15 isofaesef:matrix.org: 1
14:07:29 isofaesef:matrix.org: test
14:07:36 Anonomys25: we are still here lol
14:07:48 isofaesef:matrix.org: .
14:08:05 Anonomys25: nice try
14:08:11 isofaesef:matrix.org: Anonomys25: you're not on the monero.social homeserver
14:08:11 isofaesef:matrix.org: your account isn't a monero.social account
14:08:17 Anonomys25: I know you wouldn't do it because you would have a record to be banned-
14:08:19 Anonomys25: oh
14:08:20 Anonomys25: OHHHH
14:08:25 isofaesef:matrix.org: https://monero.social/ isn't loading tho
14:08:25 BlueyHealer: he's typing the "ping" command over and over
14:08:47 isofaesef:matrix.org: no, i'm sending over 140 thousand requests per second to https://monero.social/
14:08:49 Anonomys25: Ok ok, so I wasn't affected because I don't have the account
14:09:07 Anonomys25: I cant load the monero.social website though :p
14:09:15 Anonomys25: took too long to respond
14:09:43 isofaesef:matrix.org: yea
14:09:48 isofaesef:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/jLsHprfISecRZgFJIMjbQXCO.png (image.png)
14:10:02 Anonomys25: Although if I am going to be honest, do you think that was the brightest idea? I mean the ops technically have a record of what you did now :p
14:10:57 Anonomys25: Not that I would snitch anyways, because, there would be no point to, and it didn't affect me, but good for you
14:11:03 isofaesef:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/UdtKrPxfCPUXsZDIZHlzpgLm.png (image.png)
14:11:11 isofaesef:matrix.org: maybe i should attack matrix.monero.social instead
14:11:55 Anonomys25: probably, but you made an attack, which I am honestly surprised you did went through with it
14:11:55 isofaesef:matrix.org: .
14:12:02 Anonomys25: I cant reward you but to say congrats
14:13:23 isofaesef:matrix.org: black lives matter
14:16:20 isofaesef:matrix.org: Anonomys25: blm
14:16:32 Anonomys25: BLM homie :DZ
14:16:35 Anonomys25: :D *
14:16:49 isofaesef:matrix.org: Anonomys25: could you not send messages for a while?
14:17:08 Anonomys25: you don't want me to send messages here for a while?
14:17:18 Anonomys25: Eh, I am not going to be on for a few hours anyways
14:17:21 Anonomys25: in class lol
14:17:23 Anonomys25: but sute
14:17:24 Anonomys25: sure
14:17:25 Anonomys25: cya
14:17:39 isofaesef:matrix.org: no
14:17:41 isofaesef:matrix.org: i'm not asking you to
14:17:46 isofaesef:matrix.org: i'm asking if you could
14:17:53 isofaesef:matrix.org: like like for a few minutes
14:18:12 Anonomys25: I am going to be gone for hours, so you have all the time you need
14:18:31 isofaesef:matrix.org: were you able to access monero.social?
14:18:41 isofaesef:matrix.org: lol
14:26:35 isofaesef:matrix.org: .
14:28:09 ArsenyTarkovsky: you ddos because you were ignored?
14:28:09 isofaesef:matrix.org: funny how nobody from monero.social is seeing my messages anymore
14:28:17 ArsenyTarkovsky: where is your messages that were ignored
14:28:23 ArsenyTarkovsky: i don't even see it
14:29:18 ArsenyTarkovsky: but why we still can chat if this room is #monero:monero.social ?
14:29:47 isofaesef:matrix.org: black lives matter
14:33:28 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ufo808:matrix.org: why aren't you responding to my messages
14:33:30 isofaesef:matrix.org: you're seeing them
14:33:33 isofaesef:matrix.org: but not responding to them
14:33:36 ufo808:matrix.org: because I see that irc isn't being bridged/synced anymore
14:33:39 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ufo808:matrix.org: why isn't it being bridged anymore?
14:34:08 ufo808:matrix.org: maybe bcz you ddos?
14:34:09 ufo808:matrix.org: why
14:34:12 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ufo808:matrix.org: yeah
14:34:17 isofaesef:matrix.org: get some ddos protection for your homeserver
14:34:19 isofaesef:matrix.org: retard
14:34:21 ufo808:matrix.org: did you ddos hashvault recently btw?
14:34:21 isofaesef:matrix.org: nope
14:35:54 isofaesef:matrix.org: @binarybaron:matrix.org: why aren't you responding
14:35:55 ufo808:matrix.org: what was this message of yours that was ignored and you started ddosing because of it?
14:35:56 ufo808:matrix.org: I don't see it
14:39:20 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ufo808:matrix.org: black lives matter
14:39:22 ufo808:matrix.org: xd
14:39:38 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ufo808:matrix.org: black lives matter
14:39:39 isofaesef:matrix.org: @spideykitty:matrix.org: black lives matter
14:41:27 spideykitty:matrix.org: uncle_rae: damn valkyrae, u a dude now? didnt know! loved your gta roleplay streams back in 2024!! hope u gonna do them again on gta6, was awesome 😻
14:41:27 spideykitty:matrix.org: what message tho? > <@isofaesef:matrix.org> 5 people saw my message but nobody responded for some reason
14:43:06 spideykitty:matrix.org: @albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr: https://github.com/albertlarsan68
14:43:07 isofaesef:matrix.org: @spideykitty:matrix.org: the message i sent saying yo
14:43:08 spideykitty:matrix.org: oy o/
14:43:09 isofaesef:matrix.org: @spideykitty:matrix.org: are you a racist
14:43:10 spideykitty:matrix.org: vewwy O_O
14:43:11 isofaesef:matrix.org: yes or no, are you a racist?
14:43:12 spideykitty:matrix.org: i dont like hoomans, am a cat :3
14:44:37 spideykitty:matrix.org: vewwy racist :3
14:44:38 isofaesef:matrix.org: yes or no
14:44:39 ufo808:matrix.org: lmao
14:44:39 spideykitty:matrix.org: yes lol
14:44:40 isofaesef:matrix.org: @spideykitty:matrix.org: kys for being racist
14:46:19 spideykitty:matrix.org: i mean, am kinda suicidal so... yea lol
14:46:22 ufo808:matrix.org: all cats are racist
14:46:24 ufo808:matrix.org: just like all dogs go to heaven
14:46:30 ufo808:matrix.org: sorry for offtopic tho
14:46:37 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: @spideykitty:matrix.org: So go kys in -offtopic
14:46:38 spideykitty:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/LLRjljGtUFmwhnEfVKTaRVPr.png (image.png)
14:46:40 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: None of this shit has anything to do w monero
14:46:41 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Tf even is this conversation about
14:46:47 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Trolls trolling trolls?
14:47:02 spideykitty:matrix.org: idk lol, u tell me
14:47:04 plowsof:matrix.org: have they left the room yet
14:47:36 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: hey
14:47:38 spideykitty:matrix.org: offtopic more dry than wownero's github rn
14:48:35 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: your shitty homeserver is ddown
14:48:38 isofaesef:matrix.org: down*
14:48:39 isofaesef:matrix.org: i ddosed it
14:49:12 isofaesef:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/ZfQatzXXNGXSCuwFzMpAJvwo.png (image.png)
14:50:07 spideykitty:matrix.org: ^ tbf it been tough just to join the room rn, idk wtf u just did but damn, that's kinda toxic lol
14:53:04 isofaesef:matrix.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: your homeserver should be coming back soon
14:53:06 isofaesef:matrix.org: i stopped the attack
14:54:59 plowsof:matrix.org: nobody should kill themselves and this is offtopic 🙏
14:55:38 isofaesef:matrix.org: @plowsof:matrix.org: black lives matter
14:59:56 spideykitty:matrix.org: uncle_rae: the other day he said in community channel that he just busy on things rn but he fine, sowry auntie valkyrae for the late reply, forgot, just woke up from cat nap still a bit head in clouds rn lol
15:12:30 binarybaron:matrix.org: which channel= > <@isofaesef:matrix.org> @binarybaron:matrix.org: why aren't you responding
15:12:31 binarybaron:matrix.org: ?
15:17:09 isofaesef:matrix.org: Nigga told this nigga that we friends, I′ma rob him (I'ma rob him)
15:17:09 isofaesef:matrix.org: I'on want nobody, fuck you all, I′ma problem (I′ma problem)
15:17:09 isofaesef:matrix.org: Quit staring at me like you hard, it's a problem (it′s a problem)
15:17:09 isofaesef:matrix.org: I'm the evil nigga, my heart dead, bitches right (bitches right)
15:17:10 isofaesef:matrix.org: I′ma creep around in that bitch, 'til I spot ′em ('til I spot 'em)[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/9K3uwdkKbUZVVmRY ]
15:17:40 isofaesef:matrix.org: Nigga, all I know is you a pussy, I don't know you
15:17:40 isofaesef:matrix.org: Nigga said he from a gang, but yo' hood don′t know you
15:17:40 isofaesef:matrix.org: Blunt at yo' party, but yo mom is yo′ duck, nigga
15:17:40 isofaesef:matrix.org: (They don′t know you)
15:17:41 isofaesef:matrix.org: Nigga, I'm the king of Hell, I do not give a fuck (I do not give a fuck)
15:20:15 spideykitty:matrix.org: ^🤘😇🤘 actual banger frfr
15:21:18 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Garbage
15:22:06 nioc: People playing dressup here
15:38:41 isofaesef:matrix.org: black lives matter
15:48:19 DataHoarder: funnily the bridge is on monero.social and all IRC users are also bridged via monero.social
15:48:24 DataHoarder: so it had ... no effect
15:49:40 hopeful26:unredacted.org: dgserg is banned for sayng "black lives matter"? based
15:50:23 Cindy: hi
15:50:32 Cindy: so i wonder if you should rotate your wallet once a while
15:50:36 Cindy: like sweep_all to a new wallet
15:50:55 datahoarder: unless janus, you can rotate sub accounts
15:52:28 Cindy: i can't find the paper where i wrote down my seed
15:52:37 Cindy: so i'm like.. what if someone finds it first and then does it instead
15:52:51 Cindy: that paper could be anywhere!
15:53:09 binarybaron:matrix.org: Sweep to a new wallet
15:53:21 binarybaron:matrix.org: (with a different seed)
15:55:41 Cindy: hmm
15:55:46 Cindy: maybe i'll find that piece of paper
15:55:49 Cindy: before i do that
15:59:46 Cindy: should i really be worried? i mean amongst a sea of junk paper and crappy doodles, you think someone will figure out that it's a seedphrase?
16:00:01 Cindy: or just esoteric nonsense
16:04:38 Cindy: actually i don't remember if i even wrote it down in the first place or just copied it into a text editor just to bypass the whole "seed verification" step
16:22:18 DataHoarder: in that case, migrate it Cindy :)
16:22:39 Cindy: migrate?
16:23:07 DataHoarder: yes, if you don't have backups... well :)
16:23:41 Cindy: migrate what :P
16:23:47 Cindy: is that another word for sweep_all?
16:28:55 Cindy: i have backups of the wallet file, just i don't remember if i wrote down the seed before lol
16:29:12 Cindy: if i did, nor can i find where i did... my only concern is someone else finding it and knowing it
16:33:23 sbt:nope.chat: safe bet to transfer another wallet
16:38:30 DataHoarder: rotate wallet, move away from current Cindy
16:40:25 Cindy: does sweep_all take into account the fees now?
16:40:35 Cindy: i couldn't do sweep_all before because the TX would fail
16:40:55 Cindy: because it would allocate none of the outputs to the fee
16:41:14 Cindy: i had to bruteforce that myself :P
16:44:55 Cindy: DataHoarder: ^
16:45:09 DataHoarder: GUI does, when done per-account
16:45:12 DataHoarder: haven't tried sweep_all
16:45:13 Cindy: oh
16:45:18 Cindy: i guess it's literally just haveno's implementation
16:45:33 Cindy: i tried sweep_all on haveno, it failed because it paid no fee
16:45:40 DataHoarder: sweep_all skips account stuff btw
16:45:51 DataHoarder: cli should work, otherwise it's a bug
16:48:22 nioc: Cindy: you can get your seed from your wallet with the pw
16:49:17 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yeah ^
16:49:21 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: In cli, its just seed
16:49:43 nioc: just memorize it
16:49:50 nioc: it's only 25 words
16:50:40 Cindy: nioc: no i know the seed but like
16:51:02 Cindy: it's been a long time since i made this wallet and i don't remember if i wrote it down on a piece of paper
16:51:08 nioc: just keeo making wallets until you get a seed you like
16:51:12 Cindy: cuz if i did.. i don't know where the paper went and i don't want anyone else to find it
16:51:23 Cindy: so i'm afraid of someone finding it and doing a sweep
16:51:25 nioc: 8keep
16:51:46 nioc: ok
16:51:47 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Cindy: So whats the question?
16:51:59 Cindy: should i make a new wallet and sweep all my funds to the new one
16:52:06 nioc: the answer is yes
16:52:06 Cindy: or just.. keep it the way it was
16:52:16 Cindy: alright
16:52:22 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Does sweep_all account for fees? Yes
16:52:29 Cindy: oh good
16:52:37 Cindy: that's good because when i tried on haveno, it didn't work
16:52:47 Cindy: i had to manually make a TX with a lower amount (to account for fees)
16:53:38 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: that doesnt make sense. Haveno uses monero-wallet-rpc
16:54:06 Cindy: well if i remember, the error said there wasn't enough money to make the TX
16:54:17 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: It should account for fees
16:54:21 Cindy: i think it tried to make a TX with all the outputs with nothing to allocate for fees
16:54:25 Cindy: so i had to do that myself
16:54:38 Cindy: (btw it had like 50 dollars or something in the haveno wallet)
16:54:58 Cindy: that sweep button never worked
16:56:54 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Grepping haveno for "sweep" and "Sweep" doesnt return much
16:57:33 Cindy: okay so it doesn't use monero-wallet-rpc's API call?
16:57:41 Cindy: cuz i know the button is there
17:03:41 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Idk how haveno communicates with wallet-rpc
17:09:04 Cindy_: how do you sweep all in monero GUI
17:09:10 Cindy_: i can't actually find the button
17:09:32 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: The infinity button
17:09:35 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Next the the amount box
17:10:06 Cindy_: really?
17:10:09 Cindy_: i thought those were glasses
17:10:11 Cindy_: oh well
17:11:02 Cindy_: thanks
17:12:58 Cindy_: okay so GUI accounts for fees
17:19:09 Cindy_: ofrnxmr: also btw, how good is cake wallet
17:22:12 ravfx:xmr.mx: Is it the only one with background sync ?
17:22:27 ravfx:xmr.mx: That alone make it the best option
17:22:37 Cindy_: i installed cake wallet from accrescent
17:22:48 Cindy_: i don't know if that's a good app store, it's what came with graphene lol
17:22:53 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Define good
17:23:25 Cindy_: does not sneak spyware into code before building
17:28:41 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Well, it adds api keys during build
17:28:59 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: But not spyware
17:30:07 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: It has a dumb feature that sends requests to their clearnet servers to check "service statuses" etc. Can disable it, but its on by default
17:30:26 Cindy_: well that's fine
17:30:34 Cindy_: it would be worse if it sent over your view and spend keys :P
17:30:37 Cindy_: or even view keys
17:33:05 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Yea, of course it doesnt do that
17:33:43 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Stack and cake both use the same libraries for monero
17:34:09 Cindy_: y'know i'm just afraid of some program phoning home with the keys
17:35:34 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: edge uploads your keys in an eNcRyPtEd format
17:50:05 moneromooo: Use your seed as the encryption key: xor the seed with that key, upload the resulting ciphertext, and keep the key locally. When you want to recover the key, get the saved ciphertext, xor it with the key again, and your key's back.
17:50:35 illiilliillii:matrix.org: Cindy_: since u saying remembering the seed, u could just do a sweep_all to the same seed but with an offset to the seed, like, same seed but "xmr420" or something like that as offset, easy to remember 5headd
17:50:38 moneromooo: The advantage of that is that the ciphertext does not look like typical ciphertext, so you have plausible deniability.
17:59:22 Cindy_: illiilli (not typing the rest of that name): would that even work :P
17:59:31 Cindy_: cuz seeds have checksum in them
17:59:57 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Kitty is talking about a seed offset / passphrase
18:00:02 Cindy_: oh
18:04:12 illiilliillii:matrix.org: Cindy_: it's the OG videogamers cipherpunk name, barcode IllIIllIIllII (cant do uppercases on irc tho) but it's a mix of uppercase i's and lowercase L's, cause videogamers keeps getting banned for no reason, it's make the report harders for the snitches that dont get no bitches
18:04:12 illiilliillii:matrix.org: and yea, talking about a seed offset/passphrase, it generates a new seed entirely, which, you could just save the new seed, or use the old seed with the "offset" and it'll restore the same new wallet
18:04:49 Cindy_: i could just copy and paste your name
18:05:01 Cindy_: also you can do uppercases in IRC
18:05:06 Cindy_: my name has an uppercase C
18:05:22 IllIIllIIllII: and hey look, your name works on IRC
18:08:18 illiilliillii:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mXFggoxXLbWmSRIdXFXkApqJ.png (image.png)
18:08:34 illiilliillii:matrix.org: anyways, welcome to the cipherpunk movement IllIIllIIllII !
18:08:43 Cindy: on IRC, it shows exactly how you typed it
18:08:48 Cindy: with the uppercase I's
18:09:12 Cindy: DataHoarder: vouch for me :(
18:09:16 illiilliillii:matrix.org: 👍️
18:09:52 DataHoarder: > cause videogamers keeps getting banned for no reason, it's make the report harders for the snitches that dont get no bitches
18:10:05 DataHoarder: you don't even copy paste on matrix, you just click on the history profile
18:10:37 DataHoarder: Cindy: matrix users are all lowercase
18:10:48 DataHoarder: as in, user id
18:10:55 DataHoarder: your user gets updated later to show that as display name
18:10:59 DataHoarder: (on matrix)
18:14:20 Cindy: thank you so so much
23:53:42 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: @elongated:matrix.org migfi5a4d4x5fupdvtxbl4azrfxtuhjogjuo63tbjekcjqfkqmgbhlid.onion:18086
23:54:33 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: If you want to try lws via skylight or lwcli ^. Auto-accept server there
23:55:31 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: If sharing with a friend privately, you can leave auto-accept off, then manually accept their wallet creation
23:55:54 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: But for my own personal use, i have --auto-accept-creation and --auto-accept-import set
23:56:50 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: So anyone adding this server to their wallet, my server will automatically accept it, even if its an imported (restored) wallet
23:57:05 elongated:matrix.org: Sharing some onetime/limited key with friend would be nice to have, so one doesn’t need to and manually accept it
23:58:01 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: im not saying that doesnt exist, it may. I just havent ever gone down that rabbit hole
23:58:13 elongated:matrix.org: By key I mean some api key to authorise account creation
23:58:55 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Unless its a limited key, its probably the same as just keeping the server address a secret
23:59:27 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: (like using an onion, which prevents even your isp from knowing the destination)