00:45:59
redsh4de:matrix.org:
dunno what to put in images for now but the pages should have images > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> i think the new accept Monero page should be divided into a main page and two different sub-pages
00:46:06
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/wzrEYagNwipnvZVQgKTwyFUS.png (image.png)
00:50:55
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/GwYxcXCLTHVTXIocZDKzELfF.png (image.png)
01:18:36
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: The content here doesnt really make sense
01:20:40
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
It makes sense if the step 2 and 3 are specific to simply using a wallet's receive screen
01:22:16
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
"test it by receiving" isnt meaningful advice. Its a waste of time and overcomplicates things imo
01:22:42
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
You need xmr to do that, which implies that you already know how to use a wallet
01:24:07
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Not all wallets allow entering a receive amount to generate a qr code
01:24:58
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Using something like btcpayserver is essentially the same setup whether in-person or online
01:27:27
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
I'd prbably combine the two pages 🤔
01:28:38
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
In-person is the same as online, it all depends on the scale of your business, if you need invoice management etc
01:32:43
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
processor (hands off, high integration): nowpayments etx
01:32:43
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
self-hosted (hands on, high integration): Btcpayserver, bitcart
01:32:43
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
webapp (basic, uses view wallet, no store integration or invoice management) : bitrequest.io
01:32:43
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
wallet (basic, low security unless using a view wallet, no integrations or invoice management): any wallet
08:29:32
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: true, good point
08:51:14
plowsof:
.merges+ 2584
08:51:59
plowsof:
.merge+ 2584
08:51:59
xmr-pr:
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09:02:01
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: @ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Which mobile wallets had merchant features? Cake/Monero.com, Monerujo are the ones that come to mind
09:02:29
redsh4de:matrix.org:
want to add tags to them in the download page
09:11:15
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@redsh4de:matrix.org: None really
09:12:54
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Cake has ability to put fiat amount to generate a qr code. I dont remember if monerujo does as well
09:13:57
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
But thats not a true merchant mode, as anyone who can touch the screen can swipe left/right and enter settings etc
09:20:10
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
I imagine most wallet include the ability to create a qr code uri that includes the amount
09:20:10
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
cake (incl fiat), stack, monfluo, probably monerujo, unstoppable
09:31:11
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
and thats nothing special. Its just adding ?tx_amount=<amount> the the uri
09:34:33
redsh4de:matrix.org:
yeah, mean purely adding amounts to the URI - for simple in-person stalls and the like
09:35:14
redsh4de:matrix.org:
person shows their mobile wallet QR, person scans and pays, merchants sees tx in their wallet
09:36:07
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Its a pretty basic feature that just about every wallet has
09:38:58
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
as-implmented, none of the wallets gear it towards merchant usage
09:39:20
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Something like bitrequest is superior
09:42:15
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
https://bitrequest.github.io
09:42:15
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Heres the old bitrequest webapp. I imagine the full app is improved
09:42:35
redsh4de:matrix.org:
downloaded the mobile app, its a wrapper for the webapp
09:43:17
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Hm. They hid the webapp link on their homepage for whatever reason
09:43:51
plowsof:matrix.org:
theres always https://hotshop.onrender.com/#/ if you're in a pinch
09:44:23
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Hotshop and bitrequest essentially the same thing :P
09:44:36
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
But BR is actively maintained
09:45:18
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://github.com/Monero-Merchant/monero-merchant
09:45:18
redsh4de:matrix.org:
there's also this one, iirc it initially was only for the android handheld PoS terminals for Monerokon but now works on all android devices
09:45:39
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Thats not a simple thing to use
09:45:47
plowsof:matrix.org:
i'd recommend bitcart over monero-merchant
09:45:54
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
It always worked on all android devices :P
09:46:34
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Monero-merchant requires you to learn how to use moneropay. Its only 1 piece of the puzzle
09:46:55
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Btcpayservers POS app is also pretty easy to use
09:47:11
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
^ > <@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx> processor (hands off, high integration): nowpayments etx
09:47:11
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: yeah that adds complexity then
09:48:58
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
High integration meaning you can integrate it with your store software, like shopify etc
09:51:27
plowsof:matrix.org:
bitcart/btcpay have third party instances, not sure if relevant here tho
09:51:53
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
its all about scale imo
09:52:33
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
If youre selling a pair of used socks on craigslist, then you can either create a qr code or just tell the person how much to send
09:53:29
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
If youre running a lemonaide stand, you probably want ppl to scan & pay, which 9/10 wallets have this functionality, but bitrequest/hotshop are better for this
09:54:23
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
If youre running a profitable lemonaide stand, you should be using btcpayserver/bitcart to properly track your invoices
09:55:43
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
If you dont want to deal with xmr and just want the cash, you should be using a service provider like nowpayments cryptomus etc
10:00:04
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
... lemonade*
10:26:22
redsh4de:matrix.org:
condensed one-page variant
10:26:29
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/TeWWlSZCNiTZpTemAvdFoebY.png (image.png)
15:44:00
redsh4de:matrix.org:
maybe tabs like in the current page > <@redsh4de:matrix.org> would like to get your input on the roadmap page too, any ideas for laying the items out? i think the two kanban inspired variants could work pretty well, but not sure how to make the history section look clean, the accordions work but i dont like that when you expand them it creates assymetry in the UI and looks kinda off
15:44:07
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/NdndNZpjBMuRYkxRBVKKgSWX.png (image.png)
16:27:03
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
I think i like the other one
16:27:56
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
at least, asthetically. the tabbed version might be better ux tho?
16:46:31
redsh4de:matrix.org:
I think i just need to flip the years around and it will look better
16:47:03
redsh4de:matrix.org:
UX wise its better as the whole layout doesnt shift around like with the accordions