14:28:16 elongated:matrix.org: What’s the timeline for fcmp++ testnet/mainnet ?
14:29:01 elongated:matrix.org: EoQ2 testnet ?
14:54:35 DataHoarder: we still need to have the next beta stressnet, and alpha one has gone for longer than estimated (while handling other found issues not intrinsic to FCMP++, just old monero ones)
15:18:36 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I imagine beta stressnet will finish with "production quality" sw, which will be deployed on testnet
15:19:11 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Changes after that would probably be issues found by the greater ecosystem while adapting their software for the hardfork
15:19:27 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: What i mean is, testnet will be more like a release candidate
15:21:24 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I dont see testnet being an overly long period, and i honestly dont see a reason for longer than 2 month lead-in after setting hard fork dates for mainnet. Especially with supportxmr having 88% (/s) of the global hashrate, we only need 1 mining pool to fork for the majority of security
15:22:50 elongated:matrix.org: Still any eta on timeline? Like is everything needed for fcmp++ is already coded?
15:23:08 DataHoarder: FCMP++ is working
15:23:36 DataHoarder: plumbing to external utilities, details, proofs, wallet commands and stuff like that is what's left, and performance
15:24:04 elongated:matrix.org: DataHoarder: Yes the needed things for next hf
15:24:12 elongated:matrix.org: Even ramdomxv2
15:24:19 DataHoarder: but v2 is not done lol
15:24:24 DataHoarder: https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues/166
15:24:38 DataHoarder: https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/issues/53
15:24:48 DataHoarder: respectively TODO list for beta stressnet, TODO list for launch
15:25:18 DataHoarder: many of these were done or are in PRs and are not marked done on the checklist
15:27:50 elongated:matrix.org: Carrot and relayv2 are done ?
15:29:37 DataHoarder: see linked PRs and discussion
15:29:45 DataHoarder: that has been tested back and forth
15:30:13 DataHoarder: Carrot was tweaked a couple of times, specially recently for future PQ turnstile support if needed
15:30:38 DataHoarder: https://gist.github.com/jeffro256/146bfd5306ea3a8a2a0ea4d660cd2243 -> https://github.com/seraphis-migration/monero/pull/250
15:31:26 DataHoarder: not all carrot features are needed when it releases, btw, that doesn't need a hardfork (or a fork at all) to support. the derivations already exist, carrot-native wallets can come in later (but afaik they want to release that as well)