00:00:32 ravfx:xmr.mx: @guest880:matrix.org: The trezor wallet allow you to transact without having a hot wallet
00:00:49 ravfx:xmr.mx: so if you pc get malware or something, the money won't magically leave your wallet
00:00:59 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: @guest880:matrix.org: there are a lot of benefits. for me the big one, over the long term, has become secure seed generation. you can use that seed in other wallets but you know it was created securely originally. so if the chain of custody is perfect you have a perfect seed.
00:02:37 guest880:matrix.org: @ravfx:xmr.mx: That's because you need the Trezor cold wallet to give permission for any type tx right?
00:03:04 ravfx:xmr.mx: @guest880:matrix.org: exact
00:03:46 ofrnxmr: @glowingexplorer:matrix.org: Ypu like to make up your own definitions for well defined things
00:03:59 ofrnxmr: > Sideloading is the process of transferring files between two local devices, in particular between a personal computer and a mobile device such as a mobile phone, smartphone, PDA, tablet, portable media player or e-reader.
00:04:00 ofrnxmr: > Sideloading typically refers to media file transfer to a mobile device via USB, Bluetooth, WiFi or by writing to a memory card for insertion into the mobile device, but also applies to the transfer of apps from web sources that are not vendor-approved.
00:04:00 ofrnxmr: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sideloading
00:04:28 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: @ofrnxmr: i was asking if that's what he was saying
00:04:55 guest880:matrix.org: @glowingexplorer:matrix.org: Oh yeah, so if you created a Seed phrase on one of the main stream Hot wallets, like Meta Mask, you know that they don't have your seed phrase that you created on there, you would have your own created from your local cold wallet device?
00:05:17 ofrnxmr: @glowingexplorer:matrix.org: oh
00:06:03 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: @guest880:matrix.org: it's that those seeds are dangerous. over the web, javascript, company doing it, who the fuck knows if that is secure. so a metamask seed vs a trezor/ledger seed, its not even a competition as far as security goes.
00:08:13 guest880:matrix.org: Yeah that makes sense now, also is the newest Trezor most expensive cold wallet device needed, I think it's the Trezor Safe 7, or can you get away wtih using the older models?
00:08:57 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: @guest880:matrix.org: if you will put a lot of money into it, get the one that makes you feel safest. an extra few bucks will be worth sleeping well.
00:14:06 jstark2a:matrix.org: i would only buy hardware wallets directly from the manufacturer
00:14:41 jstark2a:matrix.org: there have been cases of counterfeit/tampered wallets that steal your seed
00:18:53 guest880:matrix.org: is it worth it to run your own XMR node just for tx to send and receive XMR in and out? I'm not exactly sure how it works and whats the minimum hardware you need
00:23:29 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: @guest880:matrix.org: about 100 GB. if you don't leave it running it's going to add 15+ minutes to sending transactions. besides that, the only cost is really the setup. its not hard at all.
00:26:20 guest880:matrix.org: @glowingexplorer:matrix.org: Oh ok, what are the biggest benefits for doing this? Also do I need to learn how to proxy the node and make sure I have it running on orbot on? I thought I heard maybe you wouldn't want tx to go through your own node if you wanted more privacy? I am not sure about this though
00:27:56 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: @guest880:matrix.org: privacy is the reason i do it. as for why others do it, or if they say it's less private, ya people argue about anything. to me it seems like going through my own tor setup is more private than having some dude in his basement submit all my transactions for me.
00:31:45 guest880:matrix.org: @glowingexplorer:matrix.org: Ok I see, how many nodes are you running, and how many would you recommend if you could run multiple nodes? Does having multiple nodes speed up the tx process and also create more privacy someway by doing this?
00:32:58 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: @glowingexplorer:matrix.org: lol thank you, you just made me realize a big one. reliability. i've had 0 problems ever with my own node. if i want to submit, i do, works every time. that definitely was not the case using other nodes, i had lots of problems.
05:24:32 321bob321: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qfdgov/help_i_sent_xmr_to_local_monero_in_2024_and_now/
05:24:32 321bob321: Lol
05:24:43 321bob321: Island time
05:44:58 orly_owl: cue steel pan music
08:41:13 plowsof: meirl posting from my new Mac https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qgv989/im_too_poor_to_afford_an_ssd/
08:57:19 basses:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/ISjiHkXbYxlKQyEFSwvxcAkO.png (clipboard.png)
14:18:59 nioc: :D
14:44:22 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Hey Guys ..Can I check some poor codes .. Detecting AI slops..Maybe it will help you in your job.
14:44:32 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Or your projects
14:44:49 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: I am kinda free now ..
14:46:39 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/mXjKBRLHzhahNXkPhTFqhJBc.png (1000162542.png)
14:47:14 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Whenever I posted on XMR reddit ..price pumped 5% ..I don't know the reason
14:49:03 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Anybody wants to bet 100 dollars ? If I posted AI slops on Reddit..XMR price is going to cross 600 dollars Within 24 hours of my post.
14:49:42 Cindy: honestly just go post AI slop on reddit
14:49:49 Cindy: AI models train off of reddit anyway
14:49:52 Cindy: you'll be doing us a favor
15:05:55 plowsof: 😂
15:08:44 imprevisto:matrix.org: I will bet you 100 dollars
15:20:17 writemarble:matrix.org: https://x.com/marblecub1/status/2013235997325111379?s=20
16:48:44 BlueyHealer: please someone automate AI poisoning on Reddit
17:02:51 btcdwed: i would bet 100$ too ;P
17:08:22 imprevisto:matrix.org: lol me first
17:08:28 imprevisto:matrix.org: FIFO
17:11:00 btcdwed: nah, we bet together and make more dollars while xmr climbing back to 600 :P
17:11:59 imprevisto:matrix.org: okay I'll bet you and bikram can add the slop
18:05:44 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Done .. > <@imprevisto:matrix.org> I will bet you 100 dollars
18:05:56 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Bet accepted
18:10:46 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Whats the bet
18:11:25 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: i liked xmr better when it was $700
18:11:48 albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr: I liked it more when it was 250€
18:12:11 ravfx:xmr.mx: wen it's right price of 5k?
18:12:14 Cindy: i was here when monero was 170 dollars
18:12:22 Cindy: you guys remember that?
18:13:42 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: @glowingexplorer:matrix.org: I will push the price at 600 ..within 24 hours of my reddit post .
18:14:29 glowingexplorer:matrix.org: unfortunately i think what pushes the price is a big hack that gets washed with xmr
18:14:33 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Cindy: in 2012
18:15:48 orly_owl: great time to buy monero
18:15:50 ravfx:xmr.mx: I remember buying bitcorn a 45$
18:15:50 ravfx:xmr.mx: Price move, XMR will go up more and more, just take time.
18:15:50 ravfx:xmr.mx: What pushed the price is many factor, the hack got in the mix and it's what amplified the dump... xmr bad
18:16:41 ravfx:xmr.mx: The chart alone made it a good idea to load XMR
18:16:41 ravfx:xmr.mx: Ztrash people exiting the electric coin scampany... Lot of people who loaded ztrash for privacy probably swapped, we don't really know...
18:18:26 Cindy: ofrnxmr: no in early august 2024
18:18:34 Cindy: 2025*
18:18:36 ravfx:xmr.mx: Imajin not loading when you finally crosse the ema200 for real for the first time in coin history
18:18:44 ravfx:xmr.mx: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/xmr.mx/XvQbCGanUZljxcdQdJEQrriJ.png (clipboard.png)
18:18:45 Cindy: monero was like pretty cheap
18:18:55 ravfx:xmr.mx: ^ It's not price, not violating rules :p
18:19:05 nioc: <Cindy> i was here when monero was 170 dollars
18:19:05 nioc: you guys remember that? <<>> who remembers 24 cents?
18:19:57 orly_owl: dem memories
18:20:32 nioc: I was about to write, I bet orly_owl does lol
18:20:54 orly_owl: i remember nothing
18:21:04 orly_owl: not even my private keys
18:21:08 nioc: you senile also ?
18:21:13 nioc: brother !
18:21:19 orly_owl: yes your honour
18:21:25 orly_owl: books a flight
18:22:13 ravfx:xmr.mx: Bitcorn usued to do what xmr do now
18:22:13 ravfx:xmr.mx: big pump, dump it all kind of thing
18:22:13 ravfx:xmr.mx: Don't let the dumps steal all your XMR
18:23:16 orly_owl: dont let the pumps be dumps
18:24:47 Cindy: do we want it to be as expensive as bitcoin?
18:25:03 ravfx:xmr.mx: Cindy: who care
18:25:03 ravfx:xmr.mx: Lot of digits after the decimal
18:25:40 Cindy: fees get expensive when you convert it
18:25:53 ravfx:xmr.mx: Fees can be adjusted
18:26:34 BlueyHealer: Is the protocol equipped to keep fees low?
18:27:09 BlueyHealer: also I assume it's not the price that's important but rather price stability.
18:27:12 Cindy: i think it has dynamic fees
18:27:19 Cindy: dynamic block size
18:27:50 BlueyHealer: And BTC?
18:27:59 ravfx:xmr.mx: If it get back stablecoin status a 5k, or 69k, who really care, but yes, stablecoin-ish is nice
18:28:07 Cindy: BlueyHealer: BTC has a fixed block size i think
18:28:14 nioc: I believe if blocks increase in size and are that size consistently the fee/tx goes down
18:28:19 Cindy: which leads to really big problems
18:28:25 BlueyHealer: Yeah, I know - I mean I don't quite understand how its fees work.
18:28:31 ravfx:xmr.mx: Cindy: 1MB+1MB Segwit or something like that yeah
18:28:33 Cindy: i think there was a fork in 2017 over the block size problem
18:28:45 Cindy: it got forked to bitcoin cash which fixed the block size problem
18:28:50 nioc: ravfx I vote 69k
18:28:54 Cindy: but regular BTC still has fixed block sizes
18:28:57 ravfx:xmr.mx: Cindy: small blocker won, fork lost
18:29:40 plowsof: if monreo price 100x overnight the fees stay the same per transaction
18:29:59 ravfx:xmr.mx: Yeah, it would have to be patched (the fees)
18:30:13 ravfx:xmr.mx: by the same per transaction, you mean the same (in xmr) right?
18:30:17 plowsof: F to those who spend ten cents for a tx
18:30:44 plowsof: yes same in xmr, it'd need a patch
18:31:11 plowsof: currently xmr is relatively more expensive than btc per tx
18:31:25 plowsof: if usd price ignored
18:31:28 Cindy: but not when you compare teh exchange rates :P
18:31:31 DataHoarder: mining your own tx is easier than in btc, plowsof
18:31:33 DataHoarder: :D
18:31:48 DataHoarder: so technically you could call that cheaper for zero fee tx
18:32:00 DataHoarder: as long as you are solomining or end up mining random p2pool Monero block
18:36:44 imprevisto:matrix.org: @bikrambiswas:matrix.org: posted now?
18:39:01 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Bikram is crashing the whole market
18:39:09 nioc: 505.27
18:39:51 Cindy: does this count as insider trading
18:50:24 plowsof: initiate bikrambiswas reddit post
18:50:41 plowsof: thnx DataHoarder :D
18:51:03 plowsof: "insider trading" 😂
18:54:20 plowsof: if we can get a bikram reddit post and 1 person asking in -dev "is now a good time to learn c++ before the pump" we're going to the moon
19:00:42 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/s/AaaDHRYOq7
19:01:22 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: @imprevisto:matrix.org: 509 dollars Now ..Just wait & watch..my post always works
19:05:39 nioc: 511 now
19:05:45 nioc: it's working
19:05:48 sneedlewoods_xmr:matrix.org: so hyped for this lol
19:09:57 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Is that gonna be calculated as AI slops ?
19:10:37 plowsof: bikrambiswas thank you
19:11:29 hooftly:matrix.org: Gave an upvote
19:12:04 plowsof: if anyone reads the wall of text let me know if it was good or not
19:13:25 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Dude it was not an AI slop ..40 % AI english..you can clearly see 60% broken english
19:13:48 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: With Typos
19:14:47 plowsof: 😂
19:14:54 btcdwed: :P
19:16:22 plowsof: adjust the % of broken english until we pump
19:16:27 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Link
19:16:43 hooftly:matrix.org: @bikrambiswas:matrix.org: you obviously care about XMR and understand what it means. Just keep doing your thing and keep learning
19:16:48 plowsof: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/s/AaaDHRYOq7
19:18:25 btcdwed: top comment hahah
19:19:12 btcdwed: oh, wrong thread, sry
19:19:13 btcdwed: :D
19:19:27 DataHoarder: if anything I congratulate you bikrambiswas for not entirely using AI this time
19:20:04 plowsof: are you accusing AI of not being able to produce a text with "40 % AI english..you can clearly see 60% broken english"
19:20:32 plowsof: slander!!!
19:21:58 DataHoarder: AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4ByUbDKNc
19:22:52 DataHoarder: > Rare Data Hunters
19:25:43 plowsof: custom flair? "40 % AI 60% broken English "
19:28:20 btcdwed: 40% is good
19:28:37 btcdwed: maybe he has no chatgpt PRO
19:28:38 btcdwed: :D
20:04:29 sech1: Who is this bikramb
20:16:59 Cindy: bikrambiswas: https://x0.at/dEz7.jpg
20:18:14 Cindy: i am so happy to read this giant wall of text and still understand shit
20:19:02 Cindy: this is what all the monerobros have been waiting for
20:20:22 btcdwed: heheh
20:20:23 btcdwed: :D
20:20:41 btcdwed: bikram i will hire you as the new marketing minister of xmr
20:20:44 btcdwed: pls query me
20:20:45 btcdwed: :D
20:27:29 Cindy: next post, can we try to make it sound more coherent
20:27:50 btcdwed: personally i would like to see more hat against ZEC instead of bitcorn
20:27:55 btcdwed: +e
20:34:53 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: btcdwed: Z cash is just a small cap crypto. Do not look backward. Bitcoin is the massive weapon against privacy.. Bitcoin is a political Coin now ..They tried to kill it .. failed... eventually they ended up making Bitcoin a corrupted Coin. Whatever Bitcoin promoted about financial freedom is no longer alive ..Monero is Bitcoin now .
20:37:46 DataHoarder: sech1: posted AI slop in mrl forums, over time found their way here and dropped ai usage a bit
20:44:21 writemarble:matrix.org: https://x.com/marblecub1/status/2013711318134489545?s=20
20:53:48 DataHoarder: please stop posting the same shit
21:00:27 Cindy: i love it when people say shit i agree with, but they say it in an obnoxious way that i really really don't want to agree
21:02:14 Cindy: that's par for the course for cryptobros in twitter
21:02:31 bikrambiswas:matrix.org: Cindy: #Mee 2
21:07:38 Cindy: https://www.web3isgoinggreat.com/
21:07:57 Cindy: the $283 million hack and swap to monero is mentioned here
21:10:19 Cindy: funny how i literally do not know 99% of the shitcoins and crappy NFTs mentioned here, but this one hack stands out to me because it involves monero
21:54:49 Cindy: plowsof: you gotta see this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgkFhaZI2Go
21:55:13 Cindy: this big streamer accidentally shows his seed phrase on stream, and his shit gets taken within a couple seconds
21:55:42 Cindy: i've never seen someone do that so fast
21:57:53 hbs:matrix.org: I thought this streamer vid was scripted, not actually live
21:58:09 Cindy: even if it's fake, seeing him smash a keyboard over it is funny
21:59:55 Cindy: what kind of desk does this guy have, holy shit. the metal clanking
22:02:45 321bob321: https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1qfp2t0/mod_announcement_introducing_vibe_code_friday/
22:06:11 Cindy: reading the title, i thought this was a early april fools joke
22:06:17 Cindy: but this actually sounds like a good idea
22:06:21 Cindy: AI slop only on fridays
22:10:08 321bob321: Yeep