05:11:39
tomdooley:matrix.org:
Monero SuperPay is launched!
05:11:39
tomdooley:matrix.org:
https://x.com/MgkMshrmBrkfst/status/2031959045847024053?s=20
05:11:58
tomdooley:matrix.org:
its a point of sale for merchants that is simple and spiffy
15:37:19
n1oc:
[CCS Proposals] Boog 900 opened merge request #653: Boog900 Cuprate RPC for wallet support (Rust Monero node) https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/653
15:43:11
syntheticbird:
working rpc ?
15:43:21
syntheticbird:
in this economy?
15:45:32
xmr-pr:
[css-proposals] Boog9001 opened pull request #653: Boog900 Cuprate RPC for wallet support (Rust Monero node)
15:45:34
xmr-pr:
> https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/653
15:48:35
syntheticbird:
plowsof ccs meeting when?
16:18:45
mrslab:tchncs.de:
would adopting the reticulum network topology where nodes and users are not IP addresses but encrypted addresses help making spy nodes useless because everyone is no longer a physical address but an encrypted identity?
16:20:51
syntheticbird:
that would make spy node worse
16:22:21
mrslab:tchncs.de:
do you think so? how?
16:29:26
boog900:
@mrslab:tchncs.de: It would make generating addresses cheaper
16:41:45
mrslab:tchncs.de:
spy nodes wouldn't be able to relate the physical addresses to any users even if the whole network was full of spy addresses
16:41:45
mrslab:tchncs.de:
everything becomes sperated from the physical attack users suffer when using CEX because then everything happens in the network and depends purely on its peer instead of a physical location
16:42:53
kiersten5821:matrix.org:
how is that any different from using an existing anonymity netowrk
16:44:25
boog900:
Ehh at best you could still link txs from the same address which D++ tries to protect against.
16:49:41
mrslab:tchncs.de:
@kiersten5821:matrix.org: the whole IP stack is the weak point in all of those networks they try to fix that core nature because it is the problem in itself
16:49:42
mrslab:tchncs.de:
The idea is to remove your independence on your IP addr to be linked to you by removing the need for an IP addr and instead use an encrypted identity
16:52:36
syntheticbird:
You seems to forget that one other problem with spy nodes are black hole attacks
16:52:45
syntheticbird:
it's not just about privacy but sybil concerns really
16:54:26
syntheticbird:
so having a layer that make it easier for one actor to take over a major percentage of the peer to peer network is not desirable
16:57:01
mrslab:tchncs.de:
I see... back to the chalkboard then
18:47:50
jpk68:matrix.org:
@kiersten5821:matrix.org: Because it doesn't rely on an ISP which can just terminate your service
18:48:27
jpk68:matrix.org:
I have actually been thinking about this and Reticulum sounds really cool. Maybe not for nodes, but still
18:49:40
jpk68:matrix.org:
It should at least be possible to send an RPC request to submit a TX or something through Reticulum or other LoRa meshnets
18:58:34
intr:unredacted.org:
Reticulum + something like Cashu (backed by monero) would be very cool
19:01:27
syntheticbird:
I do not understand what exactly is Reticulum supposed to solve than Yggdrasil do not.
19:02:05
syntheticbird:
Really, reticulum website sounds like Yggdrasil but hey instead of internal IP we got encrypted addresses
19:02:20
syntheticbird:
is that supposed to help privacy wise?
19:02:53
syntheticbird:
they don't talk about traffic obfuscation or mixnet. So i assume this is just a shortest path routing network
19:03:04
syntheticbird:
in which case having an internal ip or an encrypted address doesn't change anything
19:04:03
intr:unredacted.org:
Reticulum runs over anything from tcp, i2p, packet radio (the big one), serial interface
19:04:38
intr:unredacted.org:
https://reticulum.network/manual/interfaces.html
19:06:13
syntheticbird:
that is an interesting feature ig
19:06:31
intr:unredacted.org:
it's not meant to be a global anonymized network
19:06:43
intr:unredacted.org:
it is designed primarily for local radio mesh networks
19:06:52
intr:unredacted.org:
kind of like meshcore and meshtastic but a lot more interesting
19:07:11
syntheticbird:
@intr:unredacted.org: I was about to say that lol
19:07:33
syntheticbird:
fair enough
19:08:04
intr:unredacted.org:
the most interesting aspect of reticulum is not that it can run through those interfaces but that it can relay data between any of them, so if you have two mesh networks, both of which have one (or more) nodes connected to the internet, someone from one mesh network can send data to the other
19:08:31
intr:unredacted.org:
it builds routes automagically based on throughput and other metrics afaik
19:08:48
intr:unredacted.org:
overall a very cool project
19:37:04
jpk68:matrix.org:
Juraj Bednar (I think) did something almost exactly like this, but with actual Cashu > <@intr:unredacted.org> Reticulum + something like Cashu (backed by monero) would be very cool
19:37:18
jpk68:matrix.org:
It's called Nutband
19:37:26
intr:unredacted.org:
indeed he did
19:37:49
jpk68:matrix.org:
:)
19:38:07
intr:unredacted.org:
I don't think it'd be too hard to hook up monero to cashu, perhaps after fcmp++
19:38:36
jpk68:matrix.org:
Because of support for transaction chaining?
19:39:03
intr:unredacted.org:
indeed
19:40:58
kiersten5821:matrix.org:
cashu is custodial 🤢
19:53:38
intr:unredacted.org:
of course it is, but it still has its uses
20:06:39
not111:matrix.org:
@intr:unredacted.org: 😳
20:07:44
intr:unredacted.org:
obviously don't use a mint you don't trust, but it'd be very useful for local events, like markets, concerts, etc. (quick & high volume & low value payments)
20:08:52
plowsof:
If anyone wants to add a vibe coded solution that wont be reviewed please check https://bounties.monero.social/posts/136/2-520m-ecash-mint-and-wallet-for-monero
20:15:50
intr:unredacted.org:
rip...
20:17:37
jpk68:matrix.org:
plowsof: It still uses secp256k1, lmao
20:17:53
jpk68:matrix.org:
and supports the Lightning network somehow (??)
20:18:32
intr:unredacted.org:
original cashu supports lightning
20:18:44
intr:unredacted.org:
or, nutmix or whatever
20:19:25
jpk68:matrix.org:
True, but clearly a Monero mint isn't going to be using BTC Lightning
20:19:41
jpk68:matrix.org:
The guy didn't even change anything
20:19:42
intr:unredacted.org:
yeah ofc, it's just funny
20:24:45
intr:unredacted.org:
maybe someday
20:25:38
intr:unredacted.org:
that bounty is reasonably high too
20:26:22
jpk68:matrix.org:
Speaking of bounties, it would be cool if one could be opened for the new Trezor hardware protocol
20:26:49
jpk68:matrix.org:
I'm sure a lot of people really want it, and it definitely would deserve a high bounty haha
20:27:59
plowsof:
There is a trezor dev who handles monero things - he would make a ccs or other personal funding method
20:28:23
jpk68:matrix.org:
I could be wrong but I think selsta asked him and he said no
20:28:27
jpk68:matrix.org:
because he was busy
20:29:11
selsta:
in the past Trezor paid him from what I remember (though I could be wrong)
20:29:49
jpk68:matrix.org:
https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/4567#issuecomment-3921967712
20:30:15
plowsof:
"feee time" ;)
21:17:31
arnoldnakamura:3dns.eu:
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21:17:31
arnoldnakamura:3dns.eu:
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21:17:31
arnoldnakamura:3dns.eu:
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22:17:12
arnoldnakamura:3dns.eu:
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22:19:50
nioc:
this is not the place for posting this
22:30:15
arnoldnakamura:3dns.eu:
Hi everyone — I run a P2P XMR/EUR trading service (Cash by Mail EU-wide + Face-to-Face in SW Germany). Previously chingchongfalung on LocalMonero with 683 completed trades (archived: web.archive.org/web/20240421/https://agoradesk.com/user/chingchongfalung).
22:30:15
arnoldnakamura:3dns.eu:
Also active on Haveno (RetosSwap + DawnSwap) and XMRBazaar. Happy to be here — feel free to reach out if you need to buy or sell XMR for EUR cash.
22:30:15
arnoldnakamura:3dns.eu:
Telegram @arnoldnakamura
23:14:24
nioc:
arnoldnakamura please stop
23:24:37
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@monerobull:monero.social
23:29:24
321bob321:
Thanks mbll
23:38:55
monerobull:matrix.org:
Ban if he spams again