02:48:51
omurad:matrix.org:
That's a reasonable take > <geonic> tusko: https://pastebin.com/vhSFihyg
02:51:23
omurad:matrix.org:
Has sgp ever chimed in on why he works on both sides?
03:20:54
321bob321:
Hedging bets
06:14:45
geonic:
my take is that he's a bootlicker at heart. I'm not even sure what he likes about monero. he's been trying to subdue it as long as he's been around.
07:04:58
BlueyHealer:
What are you talking about again?
07:33:36
321bob321:
Pentesting
07:37:26
BlueyHealer:
And what person/statement?
07:37:50
321bob321:
Whinging about sgp
13:08:02
ofrnxmr:
No > <@snjya:matrix.org> My seeds are 24 words, is there a converter to the 16 words that skylight is using?
13:08:44
ofrnxmr:
Skylight supports 25 word seeds as well as 16
13:29:49
yokoama:matrix.org:
bcoz he gets paid ? > <@omurad:matrix.org> Has sgp ever chimed in on why he works on both sides?
15:12:17
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr: Cake Wallet has a seed converter tool last I checked that can at least extract a 25 word seed from a 16 word
15:13:37
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
can't remember if it does the opposite at the moment but Cake Wallet might be helpful
15:25:39
ofrnxmr:
@jbabb:cypherstack.com: Yes
15:25:46
ofrnxmr:
Its a one way operation
15:25:49
ofrnxmr:
You cant get a 16 from a 25
15:40:00
geonic:
yokoama: he got paid at Cake too and he wasn’t spying on people. he literally quit that job to follow his calling and found a surveillance firm
15:40:37
tusko:
bootlicker bonfirmed
16:05:03
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
@ofrnxmr: had to check if that's can't currently or can't ever. 25-word seeds have 256 bits and polyseeds have 128 so you really can't go from 16 to 25
16:05:57
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
we need one final standard to rule them all: 28 words. give me my birthday everywhere and some extra version bits holes on the belt for expansion
16:06:51
ofrnxmr:
@jbabb:cypherstack.com: From 25 to 16**
16:07:06
ofrnxmr:
You can go from 16 -> 25
16:07:17
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
err, right. 16->25 but not 25->16
16:07:59
ofrnxmr:
I think its also an issue with the way polyseeds are constructed
16:08:11
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
was just referring to https://github.com/tevador/polyseed
16:08:25
ofrnxmr:
They arent simply a representation of the private keys, they have a bunch of other data in them that cant be reproduced
16:11:43
tempetassum:matrix.org:
tusko: That’s too open to vagueness and interpretation
16:11:43
tempetassum:matrix.org:
Ultimately, it’s about money. Once distilled down to this single concept, it makes sense where he stands, why he does what he does, and where he’s going in the future.
16:13:26
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
how many extra words on 25 would be enough for a birthday and some extra version bits for future upgrades? hmm...
16:13:27
rbrunner7:
If people like him could stop to eat and live under a bridge, we wouldn't have these problems.
16:13:41
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
and should we store an epoch time birthday or a straight block height birthday?
16:14:08
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I didn't keep up with that conversation as to why polyseed chose seconds vs blocks for the birthday param
16:16:28
rbrunner7:
@ofrnxmr:monero.social: Any other data in a Polyseed isn't the main problem. Fact is that there roughly are 2^128 private keys that the legacy seeds can produce, but are mathematically impossible to produce using a Polyseed.
16:18:01
rbrunner7:
Well, maybe it's not so dire: "150 bits for the secret seed" So we only have around 2^106 private keys out of reach of Polyseed :)
16:18:42
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I really love the usability of polyseeds, I just wish we had a birthday tacked onto the end of the classic 25-word keys
16:19:05
rbrunner7:
Well, only 16 words are certainly nice
16:19:45
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I don't even care so much about their length so much as not having to store the restore blockheight separately
16:20:36
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I'd gladly add a few words to keep my restore height and some extra params packaged together nicely
16:20:46
ofrnxmr:
@rbrunner7: Not the main problem, but also not the only problem afaik (like version, birthday, etc)
16:20:54
ofrnxmr:
Encrypted bit
16:21:15
ofrnxmr:
@jbabb:cypherstack.com: Right? Its not like im remembering the seed
16:22:58
ofrnxmr:
ive never written a seed on paper. i dont even own a pen or paper ..
16:23:25
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
i just let google photos take care of my seed screenshots
16:23:45
ofrnxmr:
If i did, it would would be the only oiece of paper in my house, and woukd have a seed on it
16:31:50
rbrunner7:
https://xmrchain.com/ is down for me
16:39:00
ofrnxmr:
Same
16:40:58
selsta:
gingeropolous: ^
18:49:14
nioc:
people used to memorize books and you people think memorizing 25 words is a difficult feat
19:04:07
geonic:
true but most of us were born in the past century
19:09:14
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
nioc: that's what i'm saying, gimme 28 words, coach
19:09:19
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I'm ready
19:09:35
nioc:
\o/
19:09:37
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
the security of the future will require 150 word seeds and 4mb addresses
19:10:30
nioc:
150 words is 6 current seeds
19:10:37
nioc:
seems doable
19:11:32
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
only a fed would resist scaling our seed and address sizes
19:12:36
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
20 hop dandelion++++++++++++++++++++ coming soon
19:15:56
shortwavesurfer2009:
From acx (Monfluo dev) on SimpleX:
19:15:57
shortwavesurfer2009:
Hey folks, I have two announcements.
19:15:57
shortwavesurfer2009:
The first is about the Android OS lockdown.[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/5LSb0OoKLXg3YjNr ]
19:34:53
sgp_:
"As far as I am aware, Monfluo will probably be the first wallet using monero-oxide"
19:34:53
sgp_:
https://smirk.cash/; https://github.com/Such-Software/smirk-extension?tab=readme-ov-file#monerowownero
19:36:18
321bob321:
There is an open letter projects are signing
19:36:28
321bob321:
Saw it on techlore
21:18:35
omurad:matrix.org:
What's the best setup for TLS-enabled monerod service that's accessible from both clearnet and Tor?
21:18:56
omurad:matrix.org:
Let's encrypt doesn't support .onion certs and ideally I'd like to avoid setting up a reverse proxy
21:20:19
ufo808:matrix.org:
tor is already encrypted, no need for let's encrypt tls cert
21:20:52
ufo808:matrix.org:
you want your clearnet to be on https:// ?
21:21:22
omurad:matrix.org:
Yes
21:21:33
omurad:matrix.org:
@ufo808:matrix.org: Won't be encrypted past exit node
21:22:56
omurad:matrix.org:
Nvm no exit node since it's a hidden service
21:23:39
fijxu:nadeko.net:
then setup TLS for the RPC in monero done
21:24:03
fijxu:nadeko.net:
and do a hidden service on the port monero is listening on
21:24:23
fijxu:nadeko.net:
it doesn't need to be different ports as monero supports the same port for http and https traffic
21:24:54
fijxu:nadeko.net:
so tor users will use http traffic and clearnet users will use https traffic if they decide to use https of course
21:26:00
omurad:matrix.org:
@fijxu:nadeko.net: Does it? http:// returns The connection was reset
21:26:20
omurad:matrix.org:
It seems it's one or the other, not both
21:26:46
fijxu:nadeko.net:
@omurad:matrix.org: missconfiguration then
21:27:16
ufo808:matrix.org:
what is the benefit of running monerod with TLS?
21:28:09
fijxu:nadeko.net:
@fijxu:nadeko.net: https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/p/zMP_0-oKSEpWbV9x/1.txt (code snippet, 8 lines)
21:28:09
fijxu:nadeko.net:
that is my rpc config
21:28:50
omurad:matrix.org:
@ufo808:matrix.org: MITM
21:29:35
ofrnxmr:
@fijxu:nadeko.net: this ^
21:30:33
omurad:matrix.org:
Thanks. enabled -> autodetect fixed it
21:31:04
fijxu:nadeko.net:
cool, enjoy
21:31:20
ofrnxmr:
though, i'd usually recommend
21:31:20
ofrnxmr:
[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/i9mK1OoKVU5vb2h2 ]
21:31:20
ofrnxmr:
Instead of:
21:31:32
ofrnxmr:
@omurad:matrix.org: Autodetect is default fwiw
21:32:41
ofrnxmr:
enabled = disallow plain text
23:51:55
revuoxmr:
Revuo Monero Issue 252: November 25 - December 17, 2025. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-252/
23:58:54
dukenukem:
Revuo Monero Issue 253: December 17, 2025 - February 27, 2026. https://www.revuo-xmr.com/weekly/issue-253/