10:23:43
milas900:matrix.org:
What is private swap on baltex
10:25:28
monerobull:matrix.org:
a scam
10:26:01
milas900:matrix.org:
Monero enhances privacy through Private Swaps on Baltex, ensuring anonymous transactions by obfuscating deposit and payout links
10:26:10
milas900:matrix.org:
What’s that ?
10:54:29
Cindy:
milas900: a scam, monero is not affilated with baltex
10:54:41
Cindy:
in any way or shape or form
10:55:13
milas900:matrix.org:
It’s in the news in coinmarketcap aggregator
10:56:44
Cindy_:
do you honestly believe everything in shitcoin news?
10:56:46
Cindy_:
they aren't even real news, they just make shit up and have bias towards what they write about
10:58:46
Cindy_:
wikipedia blacklists crypto news sites for a reason, it's mostly heavily biased and factually incorrect for the sake of price hype
12:53:20
pcre:
https://shorturl.at/504E2 <- is this ok to mine Monero?
12:55:18
Cindy_:
okay if you get rid of windows
12:56:54
Cindy_:
it's pretty not bad
12:56:57
pcre:
I would install MX-Linux
12:57:37
Cindy_:
that CPU is known for 66KH/s in randomX benchmarks
12:57:49
milas900:matrix.org:
So where to read news lol
12:57:51
Cindy_:
it's 71th place
12:58:29
pcre:
Oh nice. Never owned a threadripper CPU.
12:59:22
pcre:
Maybe i can sell the graphikcard.
13:01:31
Cindy_:
why not build your own PC at that point
13:05:41
pcre:
I haven't found a site where you can assemble or build a Threadripper. Or do you have any tips for a good consumer CPU for mining?
13:06:46
Cindy_:
me neither lol
13:10:47
nioc:
you need decent memory and the price of that is now prohibitive due to the appetite of AI
13:22:30
pcre:
Is 64 GB insufficient for 32 cores?
13:26:49
nioc:
1 dimm for each channel
13:27:10
nioc:
total is not important
13:39:33
pcre:
You're right, I made the incorrect assumption that it was 2 x 32 GB.
13:42:57
pcre:
This thing must have cost 2,500–3,000 Euro five years ago. As a small office server. I would hope that they installed the two memory modules.
13:43:19
pcre:
It is refurbished.
13:44:05
pcre:
Probably installed a new version of Windows and dusted off a few things.
13:53:30
bienzito:nope.chat:
Is it okay to advertise here?
13:53:30
bienzito:nope.chat:
Wanted to say that I sell all kinds of gift cards for XMR/Monero
13:53:31
bienzito:nope.chat:
Steam, Amazon, you name it
13:54:27
Cindy_:
bienzito: where do you source these giftcards
14:10:15
octagonsupreme:matrix.org:
How to avoid being scammed when exchanging Monero for a gift card?
14:31:22
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Cross your fingers and hope the gift card isnt swept immediately after transferring it
14:31:39
bienzito:nope.chat:
Cindy_: Combination of online and offline purchases. If one would want ultimate anonymity, I could be down to buy them offline with cash. But that would cost a little more
14:32:28
monerobull:matrix.org:
you should put up offers on retoswap
14:33:39
BlueyHealer:
Are you talking about buying Monero? Missed the context.
14:34:59
bienzito:nope.chat:
@octagonsupreme:matrix.org: https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/zB2k/
14:34:59
bienzito:nope.chat:
You can start with 5$ ones if you are don't trust seller
14:35:20
BlueyHealer:
I just know that at least here, if you want crypto for cash, there would not only be the expected extra cost, but also the minimum amounts are RIDICULOUS. Like, I don't remember specifics, but that's in the THOUSANDS of dollars. So the money a lot of people don't even have in the first place, let alone for crypto.
14:36:07
BlueyHealer:
Sorry, just wanted to rant, missed the context. LOL
14:37:22
BlueyHealer:
also btw I wonder if XMRbazaar is ever getting rid of the slop banner, it's so sad that such a service has such a gross first impression :(
14:47:15
Cindy_:
BlueyHealer: people of xmrbazaar are giant AI ass-kissers, i doubt that they'll get rid of it
14:49:47
BlueyHealer:
I wish there was a slop-hostile (or at least slop-neutral) alternative then...
14:52:22
Cindy_:
i wish too
14:59:42
qu4nce:matrix.org:
hi
15:02:05
qu4nce:matrix.org:
That’s why I ended up using localcoinswap > <BlueyHealer> I just know that at least here, if you want crypto for cash, there would not only be the expected extra cost, but also the minimum amounts are RIDICULOUS. Like, I don't remember specifics, but that's in the THOUSANDS of dollars. So the money a lot of people don't even have in the first place, let alone for crypto.
15:06:40
monerobull:matrix.org:
get outta here shill account
15:08:19
qu4nce:matrix.org:
@monerobull:matrix.org: Im not biased but ordered once from them and all went good
15:08:46
monerobull:matrix.org:
you also joined and your first message was shilling a service
15:10:31
qu4nce:matrix.org:
@monerobull:matrix.org: I see how it looks but lowk just wanted to recommend it since I saw the message in the discord server with the same issue as I was facing (bisq having really high minimums for swaps) and decided to give a recommendation with what worked for me
15:10:56
monerobull:matrix.org:
ok
15:11:14
qu4nce:matrix.org:
If u don’t wanna use this service im sure there’s a bunch more that are privacy respecting where you don’t need to deposit 130€ for a swap
15:11:31
monerobull:matrix.org:
id recommend you to look into retoswap.com if minimums was the issue with bisq
15:11:49
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Thx
15:12:08
monerobull:matrix.org:
always decentralised > centralised
15:12:41
monerobull:matrix.org:
i cant wait for serai 😭
15:12:47
monerobull:matrix.org:
its going to be so great
15:13:21
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Do you think anything’s gonna happen to xmr in the near future?
15:13:56
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Some people say it will be taken off the eu exchanges by 2027, as well as p2p exchanges afterwards
15:14:10
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Not sure how true is this
15:18:47
monerobull:matrix.org:
uh
15:18:55
monerobull:matrix.org:
its already on 0 EU exchanges xD
15:19:29
monerobull:matrix.org:
we got atomic swaps, basicswapdex, retoswap, (soon) serai
15:19:58
monerobull:matrix.org:
by banning it you only make it more resilient
15:20:26
monerobull:matrix.org:
serai is the main thing though
15:20:39
monerobull:matrix.org:
once that is live, monero becomes truly unstoppable
15:20:53
eddie:oblak.be:
As far as I understand it, the EU is not going to ban Monero explicitly
15:21:19
eddie:oblak.be:
It will make it illegal for money transmitting businesses to handle coins that can not be traced
15:21:22
monerobull:matrix.org:
correct, they only ban it for VASPs
15:21:29
eddie:oblak.be:
which effectively makes monero off limits for them
15:21:30
monerobull:matrix.org:
and they dont name monero itself
15:21:42
monerobull:matrix.org:
they just name, checks notes, every single privacy feature monero uses
15:21:44
eddie:oblak.be:
but it is legal for any citizen to aqcuire and use monero
15:21:52
eddie:oblak.be:
mining will be still allowed
15:22:06
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Someone also said that transactions over 1000€ will have to be verified with a proof of identification
15:22:09
monerobull:matrix.org:
you can read their proposal, they literally call out RingCT, Ring signatures, stealth addresses, etc
15:22:22
eddie:oblak.be:
@qu4nce:matrix.org: that's already for years
15:22:27
eddie:oblak.be:
but the amount may vary
15:22:42
qu4nce:matrix.org:
How did they implement that
15:22:55
eddie:oblak.be:
this thing called banks
15:23:03
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Right
15:23:10
eddie:oblak.be:
enforcement happens through banks
15:23:38
eddie:oblak.be:
if you convince a car dealer to sell you a 10k car in cash, there's no way to enforce it
15:23:46
qu4nce:matrix.org:
But, isn’t it pretty easy to bypass?
15:23:52
monerobull:matrix.org:
it is
15:24:06
eddie:oblak.be:
but the car dealer will most likely not accept this, because he can't do much with that cash money
15:24:12
monerobull:matrix.org:
the bans are just to make accessing it harder
15:24:14
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Just don’t tell your bank, same like how some people do with taxes
15:24:31
qu4nce:matrix.org:
When using xmr
15:25:06
eddie:oblak.be:
it's perfectly fine to tell the bank you are using monero
15:25:17
eddie:oblak.be:
the bank will just say "good luck" and do nothing to help you
15:25:31
eddie:oblak.be:
i don't see why you would though
15:25:39
eddie:oblak.be:
the ban affects businesses not people
15:25:41
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Yeah true
15:26:06
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Like exchanges
15:26:23
monerobull:matrix.org:
they cant ban it outright because it looks really bad if you pass unenforceable laws
15:26:39
eddie:oblak.be:
Yes, under the new legislation exchanges are treated somewhat as banks
15:26:50
eddie:oblak.be:
as @monerobull:matrix.org , it's called a VASP
15:27:05
monerobull:matrix.org:
virtual asset service provider
15:27:33
qu4nce:matrix.org:
How does it affect p2p exchanges tho
15:27:40
eddie:oblak.be:
it doesn't
15:27:41
monerobull:matrix.org:
thats why we need decentralized exchanges
15:27:43
qu4nce:matrix.org:
If every transfer is to a different entity
15:27:59
eddie:oblak.be:
a pure p2p exchange is not a VASP, it's just you and me and some other guy
15:28:00
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Im glad
15:28:16
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Yeah
15:28:18
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
The dealer has to report it > <@eddie:oblak.be> if you convince a car dealer to sell you a 10k car in cash, there's no way to enforce it
15:29:02
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
A lot of used car dealers in usa accept cash > <@eddie:oblak.be> but the car dealer will most likely not accept this, because he can't do much with that cash money
15:29:56
eddie:oblak.be:
In Europe it is pretty much illegal
15:30:02
eddie:oblak.be:
above x thousand euro
15:30:23
eddie:oblak.be:
but between 2 persons (not businesses) there's no problem
15:30:41
monerobull:matrix.org:
yall ready for the digital euro :3
15:33:18
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
On the topic, MiCA regulations 76 made it that Kyc crypto asset service providers either drop anonymous currencies until June 26 or they drop the EU as a market and the big ones chose to drop the currencies. Soon we are non kyc, p2p and underground. I've read Google drops third party apps in 2027 not sure how true this is but it is getting tighter by the day
15:33:28
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Stuff like eurc exists
15:34:15
eddie:oblak.be:
and it is already perfectly legal digital EUR, afaik
15:34:46
eddie:oblak.be:
but I wouldn't trust it, to many smart contracts get hacked 5 min after deploy
15:35:00
eddie:oblak.be:
or 5 years..
15:35:46
eddie:oblak.be:
Also, any stablecoin that has a freeze function, I am not touching it
15:36:33
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Yeah
15:39:05
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
They are all creating digital panopticon via cbdc, don't touch anything related with money you can't afford to lose. The moment they become programmable by where to spend, where not, how much and in the end by what date it is gg
15:39:33
strategy6156:matrix.org:
FYI I am a boolberry whale who is dumping his bags. Everybody get out or you're gonna get rugged.
15:39:35
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
Accumulate because your children won't be able to
15:40:07
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Should I be hoarding xmr
15:41:25
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
As far as I can see it, idk how even a small home poker game can be run with cash being digital in 15 years
15:41:36
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
Xmr is the new cash
15:43:17
eddie:oblak.be:
@gentlemoose:matrix.org: hadn't thought about that, but it's a good point
15:44:13
eddie:oblak.be:
I also believe XMR will just become more popular due to all of this, because it will push more normies towards solutions.
15:44:47
eddie:oblak.be:
But on the same hand, the user experience of XMR will have to increase still, because people can hardly remember a four digit pin
15:45:07
eddie:oblak.be:
literally I see people failing to swipe a credit card
15:45:41
eddie:oblak.be:
I don't blame those people, don't get me wrong, it's just the way it is.
15:48:16
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
It is not a matter of popularity and price going up and usage. We don't need that. Mass debanking will deduct taxes straight away after income and with carbon sandwich being online, after full programmability we are full 1984 mode and from then on kids can't deposit in gambling sites or buy groceries from a grandma on the street let alone buy gold or btc without anyone knowing who they are
15:49:04
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
We just need a strong community
15:49:25
BlueyHealer:
Eh, grannies are one of the major reasons cash isn't going extinct any time soon.
15:49:45
BlueyHealer:
Also here it seems like economy is shifting more to cash as times become less stable...
15:49:50
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: As generation shift those born with a phone will do fine with that
15:50:14
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
BlueyHealer: Until we have any.. 10 years max
15:50:55
BlueyHealer:
IDK, at least here cash is only getting more popular as people get more paranoid
15:51:29
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
That's why UK, Canada and the EUssr will take care of that in a hurry
15:52:24
eddie:oblak.be:
@gentlemoose:matrix.org: I don't know. I hope so.
15:53:45
eddie:oblak.be:
BlueyHealer: I have a friend working in a bar. He's complaining the young kids don't even take a credit card with them anymore
15:53:56
eddie:oblak.be:
they try to swipe their phone on his counter
15:54:05
eddie:oblak.be:
he's a cash only bar..
15:54:49
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
By the way where I'm from I can deposit 3x the average monthly salary per day in cash via atm to my bank acc which changes to less than 1x before the bank asking source of funds.
15:55:09
eddie:oblak.be:
In my opinion using money became ridiculously complex and bloated while masking it as user friendly ness
15:55:22
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
Right now it doesn't even ask
15:55:27
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
It starts asking at 5x
15:57:55
eddie:oblak.be:
> It is not a matter of popularity and price going up and usage. We don't need that.
15:57:55
eddie:oblak.be:
We need usage, that's why there is a strong network effect. The price go up I agree is not needed, it's actually counter productive in a wway.
15:58:16
BlueyHealer:
Also, even aside from the overall uneasiness... Mobile internet shutdowns exist, and now people are getting used to them. So there's always a possibility that your card will just not work in the worst moment.
15:59:22
eddie:oblak.be:
The irony of that is that the government here forbids large cash transactions, but on the same hand it recommends having some cash on hand for emergencies
15:59:37
BlueyHealer:
nice
16:00:23
eddie:oblak.be:
But this government isn't the smartest.. It forbids you to run your solar panels off grid, but recommends you to have a battery radio in case of giant blackout
16:00:34
eddie:oblak.be:
I am not making this up
16:01:16
BlueyHealer:
Is there evn an excuse for the solar panel ban? And how well is it enforced?
16:02:12
DataHoarder:
@eddie:oblak.be Spain? :D
16:02:21
eddie:oblak.be:
I don't know the excuse. And it's not really enforced I think.
16:03:54
eddie:oblak.be:
But people here are generally very obedient, they believe the government has their backs.
16:04:04
BlueyHealer:
So is it the sale that's so regulated?
16:05:11
BlueyHealer:
Is it, like, hard to get them?
16:05:24
eddie:oblak.be:
Yeah, I think if you have solar panels installed by a 3rd party, they will follow a script and not care much about what is actually the smartest way of installing it.
16:05:35
eddie:oblak.be:
But if you are a DIY person it's easy to get around it
16:07:05
BlueyHealer:
Ah, nice! So how do you go about buying them then?
16:07:24
BlueyHealer:
Are they still sold to consumers? If yes - why?
16:09:25
eddie:oblak.be:
I have no idea in practice, but I assume there's no problem buying them as a consumer
16:09:37
eddie:oblak.be:
Or you have them installed by a 3rd party and rewire them later
16:12:52
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
That's why I just bought sim router and examining mesh networks as we have to decentralise everything from signal to money > <BlueyHealer> Also, even aside from the overall uneasiness... Mobile internet shutdowns exist, and now people are getting used to them. So there's always a possibility that your card will just not work in the worst moment.
16:19:58
BlueyHealer:
Ah, so you can install them, but while abiding by certain restrictions?
16:24:27
eddie:oblak.be:
most laws can be easily broken, but it's up to you then to bear the consequences if you get caught ...
16:25:46
gentlemoose:matrix.org:
Has anyone tried foldable solar panels? Does that stuff work
17:23:04
victor5577:matrix.org:
Hellooo
17:23:09
victor5577:matrix.org:
What's upp
17:23:40
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
nohello.net 😡
17:23:55
victor5577:matrix.org:
What?
17:24:07
qu4nce:matrix.org:
Hi
17:24:54
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@victor5577:matrix.org: must click the link, or ask chatgpt "what is nohello.net"
17:36:59
victor5577:matrix.org:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Haha got it
17:37:01
victor5577:matrix.org:
Hiiii
17:53:21
Cindy_:
hi
18:21:43
nioc:
Cindy: hi
18:22:26
Cindy:
hi
18:22:36
Cindy:
how are you nioc
18:23:27
nioc:
Cat is very happy with the Thanksgiving turkey so all is good :)
18:24:22
Cindy:
that's good
18:24:29
nioc:
hope you are well
18:27:45
victor5577:matrix.org:
Guys do you know any millionaires
18:28:39
Cindy:
no
18:32:55
qu4nce:matrix.org:
No
19:00:21
victor5577:matrix.org:
Btw are there any real life Monero stores anywhere in the world? Who take Monero as payments
19:06:03
bienzito:nope.chat:
@victor5577:matrix.org: Nope
19:06:12
bienzito:nope.chat:
@victor5577:matrix.org: Probably
19:07:36
victor5577:matrix.org:
Even I've never heard of such
19:10:23
albertlarsan68:albertlarsan.fr:
@victor5577:matrix.org: There is proxy store in Germany
19:48:24
victor5577:matrix.org:
Anyone up for opening a store with me in Dubai?
19:49:13
buy_crypto:matrix.org:
@victor5577:matrix.org: I can buy it from you 😀 paying in cash in Sweden
19:50:48
eddie:oblak.be:
I have a million shillings > <@victor5577:matrix.org> Guys do you know any millionaires
19:51:11
nioc:
isn't everyone in Dubai a millionaire?
19:51:30
BlueyHealer:
If you're to open a business anywhere - why in such an unsettling place full of slavery?..
19:51:52
victor5577:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: Are they gold plated? 🧐
19:52:24
nioc:
I was in the UAE and yes, slavery / indentured servants
19:53:01
victor5577:matrix.org:
nioc: 70% are wannabeees
19:53:05
Cindy:
yes, the gold is covered in blood
19:53:10
Cindy:
the blood of millions of sudaneses
19:53:13
BlueyHealer:
I wouldn't want to visit not only because of the climate, but because it's so unsettling. Like, a lot of the places in the world are dystopian, but Dubai is like a cartoonosh embodiment.
19:53:15
Cindy:
they say it makes it worth more or something
19:53:45
nioc:
0_o
19:54:04
victor5577:matrix.org:
Cindy: Free Sudan 🇸🇩
19:55:26
victor5577:matrix.org:
BlueyHealer: Exactly
19:55:30
Cindy:
nothing like funding a terroristic paramilitary force that destroyed the airports to prevent people from leaving and also slaughtered, diddled tons of them
19:55:46
Cindy:
so that their economy gets destabilized to hell, and you can buy gold for mere cents! :D
19:55:55
Cindy:
dubai mind
19:57:03
eddie:oblak.be:
@victor5577:matrix.org: I am not going to places where alcohol is forbidden 🤡
19:57:19
buy_crypto:matrix.org:
Anyone selling XMR in Sweden?
19:57:20
buy_crypto:matrix.org:
I'm paying in Cash
19:57:28
Cindy:
lol
19:57:38
victor5577:matrix.org:
That's really sad, world pays attention for a while in the start, now they've forgotten > <Cindy> nothing like funding a terroristic paramilitary force that destroyed the airports to prevent people from leaving and also slaughtered, diddled tons of them
19:57:49
Cindy:
dubai is hypocritical
19:57:52
Cindy:
they have to be very halal while their thrones are stained with the blood of many innocents
19:58:08
victor5577:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: They serve it to foreigners in certain places
19:58:26
eddie:oblak.be:
Which makes it even weirder
19:58:28
BlueyHealer:
It's the extreme contrast that highlights this place in particular.
19:58:43
victor5577:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: Ikr
19:59:06
eddie:oblak.be:
One of the best things going places is drinking local liquor with local people 😅
19:59:36
Cindy:
victor5577: maybe because they are also involved with making it worse
19:59:40
victor5577:matrix.org:
Cindy: They are far away from being halal
20:00:03
victor5577:matrix.org:
Cindy: The whole middle east leadership is
20:00:03
Cindy:
like for example, EU and UK has been funding the same group aswell
20:00:15
Cindy:
for "combatting irregular migration"
20:00:48
victor5577:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: Haha that's impossible there 😅
20:01:00
Cindy:
to bring the issue up, means that they have to acknowledge the fact that they contributed to it
20:01:02
eddie:oblak.be:
It seems a problem of this era. Sending migrants from Asia to Africa.
20:01:14
Cindy:
so they just sweep it under the rug and pretend it never happened
20:01:19
eddie:oblak.be:
It makes absolutely no sense, but it seems westerners have no issues with that
20:01:20
Cindy:
or is not happening at this moment
20:02:15
victor5577:matrix.org:
It's the elites controlling the game, everyone Wants a little bit of what's coming > <Cindy> like for example, EU and UK has been funding the same group aswell
20:03:12
Cindy:
eddie: asia to africa? i don't know where you get your news from
20:03:30
victor5577:matrix.org:
To stay in power they need to stick their fingers and grab whatever possible
20:03:58
Cindy:
victor5577: it's pure irony, they fund terrorist organizations for the purpose of "combatting illegal immigration"
20:04:06
Cindy:
which then causes more damage and more migrants
20:04:18
Cindy:
and then they repeat the whole process but much more crueler
20:04:21
victor5577:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: Why would anyone migrate to Africa from Asia
20:04:55
victor5577:matrix.org:
Cindy: Exactly, it's a never ending circle
20:04:57
pw:xmr.mx:
This is #monero:monero.social
20:05:25
eddie:oblak.be:
@victor5577:matrix.org: US is had been sending afghans to rwanda
20:05:34
eddie:oblak.be:
that's asians to africa
20:05:47
victor5577:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: What... Why?
20:06:07
eddie:oblak.be:
because afghanistan doesn't take their nationals back
20:06:15
eddie:oblak.be:
and they want to get rid of them anyway
20:06:39
eddie:oblak.be:
EU is organizing similar schemes
20:06:41
victor5577:matrix.org:
Crazy times
20:06:47
Cindy:
born a shitholer, always a shitholer
20:06:52
Cindy:
the politicians want you to know that
20:07:58
Cindy:
we're gonna be like elysium
20:08:06
victor5577:matrix.org:
Are we allowed to talk about this in this group? 😅
20:08:12
eddie:oblak.be:
hey, and the USA first lady, guess what, an immigrant
20:08:14
Cindy:
we can go to offtopic
20:08:40
eddie:oblak.be:
@eddie:oblak.be: so it's not about being from here or there, it's about having money or not.
20:08:55
Cindy:
it's about where you born ultimately
20:09:34
victor5577:matrix.org:
@eddie:oblak.be: It all comes down to, rich getting richer and keeping the poor poorer and as far as possible from them
20:10:26
Cindy:
the EU is no better
20:11:05
eddie:oblak.be:
they play it different
20:11:13
Cindy:
EU does it by proxy
20:11:18
eddie:oblak.be:
you will not see some govt agency raiding home depots
20:11:26
Cindy:
lol
20:11:36
eddie:oblak.be:
but we pay militias to keep unwanted poor people out
20:11:43
victor5577:matrix.org:
They play safe actually, they're the cunning one's, they hold one hand and cut the other
20:11:47
Cindy:
you should see EU countries' immigration detention centers
20:11:58
Cindy:
they are so terrible, they don't even let you film the inside
20:12:08
Cindy:
your phone has to have its camera physically removed
20:12:18
Cindy:
so you won't tell anyone what goes inside
20:13:45
victor5577:matrix.org:
It's like those concentration camps in China, no one knows what's going inside, but everyone knows that's there's something wrong happening
20:14:36
eddie:oblak.be:
Cindy: not surprised at all
20:15:41
Cindy:
they do this so they can pretend they care about human rights and all :P
20:15:46
Cindy:
it's very important to have bragging rights
20:16:10
eddie:oblak.be:
EU lost that right long ago :p
20:16:34
eddie:oblak.be:
you could say we're certainly as hypocritical like the ME leadership 😅
20:16:51
elongated:matrix.org:
@victor5577:matrix.org: They are dealing with those ppl as they should be, reeducation of those animals was needed
20:17:27
Cindy:
no empathy detected
20:17:32
eddie:oblak.be:
that escalated quickly 😂
20:17:52
victor5577:matrix.org:
@elongated:matrix.org: Torturing kids and old people isn't re-education 🤡
20:18:15
elongated:matrix.org:
@victor5577:matrix.org: Get the fact right
20:18:26
Cindy:
imagine torturing people just because of where they came from
20:19:13
victor5577:matrix.org:
Irony that the ones that are torturing are the people who eat insects dogs and God knows what, they need re educating lol
20:20:02
elongated:matrix.org:
@victor5577:matrix.org: lol atleast their books don’t teach you to murder
20:20:36
Cindy:
how do you even know that they follow that
20:21:15
victor5577:matrix.org:
@elongated:matrix.org: Don't get your knowledge from some stupid fake news peddling WhatsApp groups lol
20:21:29
Cindy:
we really did learn nothing from nazi germany :D
20:21:36
elongated:matrix.org:
Cindy: Search ugars
20:21:36
Cindy:
we just repeat the same mistakes
20:22:10
Cindy:
what am i supposed to see?
20:22:10
victor5577:matrix.org:
@elongated:matrix.org: Uyghurs *
20:22:21
elongated:matrix.org:
@victor5577:matrix.org: Good
20:22:46
elongated:matrix.org:
Cindy: See which book they followed
20:23:05
Cindy:
oh no, they followed the wrong religion
20:23:21
Cindy:
therefore they need to be imprisoned, tortured and killed
20:23:29
Cindy:
literally no better than what you think them as
20:23:40
elongated:matrix.org:
Cindy: It’s a cult not a religion, a very violent one
20:24:11
Cindy:
you could call christianity the same thing
20:24:20
Cindy:
hell, any major religion
20:24:27
eddie:oblak.be:
are we talking about Westboro Baptist Church?
20:24:36
elongated:matrix.org:
Anyways too ofttopic for this group, going back to my cave
20:26:18
eddie:oblak.be:
When people start arguing religions I always have to think of South Park .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbNnsiP4Rhg
22:05:19
victor5577:matrix.org:
Guys dm me if anyone can send me 200-400 Monero
22:05:33
Cindy:
get in the line
22:23:20
plowsof:
lol