01:28:33
DataHoarder:
this tx paid 0.11 XMR https://p2pool.io/explorer/tx/00357287bcdbd34587d6a97727e00bb4ab80f90e908ed1f3bb4f94d524988cf4
01:28:40
DataHoarder:
as fee, huh
01:32:38
ofrnxmr:
Is it just me or is this redirecting to 127.0.0.1
01:32:44
ofrnxmr:
Using tor btw
01:36:27
DataHoarder:
it works here
01:36:36
DataHoarder:
it also has a .onion available
03:57:16
DataHoarder:
added DoubleScalarMult + MultiScalarMult to Point implementation, which I assume will be useful :)
08:16:40
sech1:
ofrnxmr try a different browser agent (latest Chrome user agent would do) if you connect from tor
14:53:04
puffybuf:
why does watch only wallet show out transfers as in? and it has the wrong balance
14:53:22
puffybuf:
why give the wrong balance? just say unknown...
14:53:43
puffybuf:
I have to import_key_images to get the right balance to show
14:54:38
aillia:matrix.org:
Happy RandomX Day!
14:55:10
aillia:matrix.org:
https://xcancel.com/themerit0crat/status/1994989877524394335
14:57:14
Cindy_:
always a ragebaiter in the replies
14:57:20
Cindy_:
twitter like always
14:58:16
aillia:matrix.org:
ignore or mute
14:59:28
Cindy_:
puffybuf: because it's hard to figure out outgoing transfers in view-only wallets?
14:59:57
Cindy_:
this is a flaw of cryptonote's design (and something that carrot is planning to fix)
15:01:48
Cindy_:
for now, you have to import key images for any spending transactions
15:02:03
puffybuf:
well I'd like it to just say unknown, but it gives an incorrect balance delta
15:02:22
Cindy_:
if it says unknown, what's the point of having a view-only option
15:02:27
Cindy_:
it'll say unknown all the time
15:03:00
Cindy_:
having it say unknown when there's a out transfer requires it to KNOW that it's a outgoing transfer in the first place
15:03:03
Cindy_:
which is impossible
15:03:41
Cindy_:
otherwise i'm sure it would be able to deduct the amount from the balance if it did
15:05:14
Cindy_:
i think the transfer that shows up as incoming is the change output
15:06:33
Cindy_:
(when you send a transaction with a output bigger than the amount you want to send, monero will split it into 2 outputs. one going to the address you put in, and the other going back to yourself as change)
15:13:56
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@aillia:matrix.org: Ive beem doing the opposite this whole time 😭
15:15:13
DataHoarder:
puffybuf: it only knows incoming txs. when you make a transfer, you send change to yourself. that's also an incoming tx
15:15:22
DataHoarder:
you need to tell it which inputs have been spent by importing key images
15:15:33
Cindy_:
oh so i was right :o
16:08:32
Laris:
hello, may I please get a suggestion for some bulletproof hosting with monero as one of the payment methods
16:09:44
Cindy_:
bulletproof hosting?
16:09:51
Cindy_:
wtf does that mean
16:10:01
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
laris: What do you mean by bullet proof? Unless you find something in Russia, most providers aren't going to prison for you
16:10:14
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
Check out kycnot.me, but don't expect "bulletproof"
16:11:00
Cindy_:
most providers have their own rules
16:12:04
Cindy_:
also all VPSes have to abide by their own nation's laws
16:12:43
BlueyHealer:
Unless you find something in Russia <- How is it different there? The hosters there also seem strict.
16:13:35
BlueyHealer:
Like, I know that some of them go by MUCH less strict blocklists than regular ISPs, and some get away with things just because no one's looking... But honestly, don't know a lot about thw VPS scene.
16:13:55
Cindy_:
at the very least, datacenters in russia will turn a blind eye to pirated or copyrighted content
16:14:03
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
I'm assuming he wants something bullet proof from the West, and I don't see Russia caring about markets, phishing, etc any time soon
16:14:18
Cindy_:
but anything super illegal, they will also not hesitate to take down your service
16:14:19
BlueyHealer:
Like, renting it or a domain KYCless would be illegal, but apparently there are resellers to get around that.
16:14:42
BlueyHealer:
Cindy_, yeah, fair. Although apparently some really big ones do respond to complaints.
16:15:31
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
BlueyHealer: Realistically, it's a lot harder for the authorities to take down something if it's hosted in Russia. Apart from taking the person running it down, of course
16:16:00
BlueyHealer:
I mean for the authorities there.
16:16:01
Cindy_:
depends on the content you're hosting
16:16:06
BlueyHealer:
yea
16:16:14
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
*Western authorities
16:16:19
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
US or whatever
16:16:43
BlueyHealer:
I know 100% that paying for goods in crypto is illegal there. But I think there can be resellers.
16:16:53
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
Cindy_: The average skid would be fine on hosting in russia
16:17:11
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
which is the case here
16:17:38
Cindy_:
skid, yeah sure
16:18:00
Cindy_:
but pedos, go fuck yourself
16:18:10
Cindy_:
literally nobody will take you
16:18:13
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
well the person originally asking the question is presumably a skid. Only skids say bulletproof really
16:18:15
BlueyHealer:
skid would be burnt elsewhere because they don't know what they're doing lol
16:18:27
Cindy_:
which is why i said "depends"
16:18:42
Cindy_:
and i really do hope they aren't a pedo
16:20:07
BlueyHealer:
good thing about criminals is that they do usually make mistakes)
16:26:54
nioc:
Sounds like people
16:31:33
victor5577:matrix.org:
Guys I need 300 Monero for some personal stuff and a project, if interested please do DM me, scammers please do stay away and don't waste my time
16:35:22
DataHoarder:
I also need 300 monero
16:35:31
Cindy_:
i also need 300 monero
16:35:50
Cindy_:
it's for some personal stuff and a project too
16:35:57
aillia:matrix.org:
I also need 300 monero
16:36:19
Cindy_:
get in the "i also need 300 monero" line
16:36:23
Cindy_:
it's pretty long
16:36:35
nioc:
I need 3000 monero
16:36:48
victor5577:matrix.org:
Lol
16:37:00
victor5577:matrix.org:
As expected
16:37:28
nioc:
glad that we met your expectations :)
16:38:39
victor5577:matrix.org:
nioc: Nah mate you exceeded it lol
16:38:58
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
Guys I really need 299 monero, please give me 299 monero dear sirs, its less than 300 moneros
16:39:21
victor5577:matrix.org:
@nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev: Pajeeeeeeeeet
16:39:22
victor5577:matrix.org:
🤣
16:39:52
victor5577:matrix.org:
Btw subaddress can generated on cake wallet right?
16:40:03
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
Didn't say sars, or I'd get banned for racism or smthng
16:40:08
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
@victor5577:matrix.org: yeah
16:40:36
victor5577:matrix.org:
I didn't understand the difference, subaddress can't be traced?
16:41:09
victor5577:matrix.org:
It starts with 8 right?
16:41:13
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
yes
16:41:18
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
primary starts with 4
16:41:24
victor5577:matrix.org:
Cool thanks
16:41:35
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
Well they can't be traced to the extent that primary addresses can't be, afaik, someone correct me if I'm wrong
16:42:46
victor5577:matrix.org:
Then why the difference? 😅
16:42:58
victor5577:matrix.org:
Sorry if I'm over asking lol
16:43:02
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
Outgoing transactions come from the primary address
16:43:04
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
@victor5577:matrix.org: nw
16:43:49
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
the purpose of this room is to discuss monero, so go for it
16:43:55
victor5577:matrix.org:
@nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev: Ohhhhhh now I got it, thanks
16:45:35
victor5577:matrix.org:
I was actually looking out various privacy centered coins, like Zcash, Dash etc
16:45:35
victor5577:matrix.org:
And came to the conclusion that none of them come even close to Monero
16:45:53
victor5577:matrix.org:
Tell me if I'm wrong
16:50:23
DataHoarder:
17:40:43 <br-m> <victor5577:matrix.org> I didn't understand the difference, subaddress can't be traced?
16:50:25
DataHoarder:
it's not about tracing
16:50:27
DataHoarder:
it's not like zcash where different addresses have different methods
16:50:43
DataHoarder:
this is just a way to have different addresses land in same wallet. all addresses cannot be traced
16:51:24
DataHoarder:
main address is what originally existed, subaddresses encode information (and derive outputs) so they land in your wallet properly without having to create another wallet
16:51:27
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
@victor5577:matrix.org: actually I may be incorrect abotu that
16:51:37
DataHoarder:
basically you give a different one per incoming tx
16:51:44
DataHoarder:
17:43:09 <br-m> <nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev> Outgoing transactions come from the primary address
16:51:44
DataHoarder:
^ no
16:51:58
nthpyrodev:nthpyro.dev:
right thanks for the correction
16:51:59
nioc:
you can give different addresses to different people/entities and the txs will end up in the same wallet
16:52:00
DataHoarder:
outgoing txs come from the one-time spend key that the output got derived
16:52:53
DataHoarder:
which is your wallet spend private key + an one-time private key (which is what the one-time pub is on chain)
16:53:10
nioc:
those people/entities can't collude to figure out how much you received
16:53:13
DataHoarder:
that being spend pub + output random pub = one-time pubkey
16:53:33
DataHoarder:
subaddresses allow that to exist while not giving the main address to everyone
16:54:14
nioc:
keep your main address private
16:55:44
victor5577:matrix.org:
Thanks for the info everyone 🙌🏻
18:55:28
victor5577:matrix.org:
Is this group usually this silent?
18:56:03
Cindy_:
yes
18:56:19
Cindy_:
because when people have nothing to say... they stay quiet
18:56:22
Cindy_:
:OOOO
18:56:34
lostish:matrix.org:
👀
18:59:54
victor5577:matrix.org:
Cindy_: Krazyyyyy
19:00:06
victor5577:matrix.org:
Say something
19:00:12
Cindy_:
something
19:00:32
victor5577:matrix.org:
Say I love you
19:02:04
victor5577:matrix.org:
So y'all here are programmers?
19:02:12
Cindy_:
yes
19:02:31
lostish:matrix.org:
ye
19:02:42
victor5577:matrix.org:
Niceeeeeeeeeee
19:02:54
victor5577:matrix.org:
What languages do y'all know?
19:05:31
lostish:matrix.org:
know how? languages you've studied or know by name?
19:05:45
bienzito:nope.chat:
@victor5577:matrix.org: Nope
19:06:49
victor5577:matrix.org:
@lostish:matrix.org: I mean the programming languages, like c++, Java, html etc
19:07:12
victor5577:matrix.org:
@bienzito:nope.chat: Haha me too, I'm a sales guy lol
19:29:22
nioc:
I last programmed with AlgolW using punch cards
19:35:56
victor5577:matrix.org:
nioc: I have zero idea about what that is 😅
19:36:38
nioc:
no reason why you should :D
21:26:43
Cindy_:
victor5577: i write m68k assembly, C/C++, rust, go, crystal, many others i think
21:34:39
victor5577:matrix.org:
Cindy_: Wow genius, I know nothing about all these 🤯
22:02:38
DataHoarder:
which ones do you know? what generalized one/what's your area?
22:24:15
victor5577:matrix.org:
DataHoarder: I'm a complete sales guy, I'm trying to get into SaaS