02:39:36
321bob321:
interesting getmonero site is blocking me lol
02:48:27
gan:skhron.org:
Use the onion 🧌
02:53:39
321bob321:
neva!
06:34:50
imprevisto:matrix.org:
"making an actually cool startup" is a lottery ticket and a contact list
06:35:45
imprevisto:matrix.org:
never mind that people if they know what lottery you're playing in time can summon resources to buy 1000s of more tickets too
09:32:07
321bob321:
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1qxusil/safeclaw_alternative_to_openclaw_no_lm_with_most/
09:32:07
321bob321:
Lol
10:13:37
321bob321:
https://rsrini7.substack.com/p/from-scripts-to-systems-what-openclaw
10:13:38
321bob321:
Who would of thought
13:00:16
lessless:
this is probably a beaten-to-death horse, but... what's up with bitcoin?
13:16:32
plowsof:
lessless try and think of a more vague question
13:19:20
lessless:
@plowsof lol. I mean the price drop
13:50:11
nioc:
it's crypto
14:09:30
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
I wrote a chinese blog:https://jackie.openenet.cn/monero-gui-install/
14:09:44
Cindy_:
nice
14:09:49
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
It about how to install and use monero gui
14:09:53
Cindy_:
chinese or taiwanese?
14:10:00
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
chinese
14:10:00
Cindy_:
if i may ask
14:10:02
Cindy_:
ah
14:10:14
lessless:
I reckon mandarin :)
14:10:52
lessless:
br-m but CCP is doubling down on the crypto ban and there are probably criminal penalties for selling / buying xmr
14:10:52
Cindy_:
pyxmr2025: i have a question
14:10:57
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
I'm chinese and it's chinese
14:10:58
Cindy_:
since monero project is hosted on github
14:11:06
Cindy_:
how do chinese people access it?,
14:11:19
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
?
14:11:26
Cindy_:
because i heard you're not even allowed to have an account on github if you're from china
14:11:31
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
Why we can't use github guys
14:11:47
Cindy_:
something something a chinese friend told me
14:11:54
Cindy_:
i wanted to hear if it was true
14:12:04
basses:matrix.org:
v2ray
14:12:09
basses:matrix.org:
VPN
14:12:23
Cindy_:
sounds about right :P
14:12:30
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/9c7f920b4913bae1b0b647dd7bb27bd7b5e5ba302020138856531099648.png (image.png)
14:12:36
basses:matrix.org:
they have their own chinese git hosting, but idk if they use it
14:12:45
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
no,it's slow but some people can use.
14:13:03
Cindy_:
do you use a VPN?
14:13:04
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
and we have our proxy.
14:13:08
Cindy_:
ah
14:13:12
Cindy_:
okay okay makes sense
14:13:36
basses:matrix.org:
im surprised that China allows Windows
14:13:43
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/521031cec08a11bd87c8ac44ba101930d343277d2020139159426957312.png (image.png)
14:13:58
Cindy_:
i had to give that friend a git bundle file instead of a github link
14:14:05
Cindy_:
because they couldn't download from github
14:14:31
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
github?
14:14:35
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
windows?
14:14:38
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
we all use windows
14:14:42
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
!!!
14:15:01
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
and we use ios, andriod .....
14:15:12
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
we use bing,yandex,google(maybe someone use)
14:15:17
basses:matrix.org:
I know about iOs, they have servers in China
14:15:55
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
wait
14:16:01
basses:matrix.org:
China is already developing their own OSes nowadays
14:16:09
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
I use chinese ai to
14:16:15
basses:matrix.org:
so I expect a block in 2030
14:16:31
Cindy_:
github is the one banning people's accounts if they're from china
14:16:35
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
@basses:matrix.org: yes like huawei,kylin...
14:16:39
Cindy_:
(same with if they're from cuba or whatever)
14:16:41
basses:matrix.org:
@pyxmr2025:mozilla.org: it is the best for local models
14:16:43
Cindy_:
it's just places US doesn't like
14:16:46
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
Hey guys, let me clear up these misunderstandings for you guys in a straightforward way 😜
14:16:46
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
### 1. GitHub access in China
14:16:46
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
It’s NOT true that Chinese people can’t have a GitHub account — we absolutely can register and own GitHub accounts with no issues. The only thing is that GitHub can’t be accessed directly in China due to internet restrictions, not a ban on the platform itself.[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/-6jaj-QKRTNjQ1Rp ]
14:16:53
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
I used ai to ans
14:17:06
Cindy_:
no, AI is wrong
14:17:09
basses:matrix.org:
yeah obviously lol
14:17:14
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
https://www.doubao.com/
14:17:14
Cindy_:
github has been banning chinese people from using github if they know they're from china
14:17:20
Cindy_:
i think i saw that before
14:17:23
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
This ai you can see
14:17:25
Cindy_:
and i don't think they have changed since
14:17:52
Cindy_:
they reserve the right to ban your account if they identify you from being from a sanctioned country
14:18:20
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
It's not GitHub that bans China, but rather the Chinese telecom operators that block GitHub, haha
14:18:35
Cindy_:
i mean both ways :P
14:19:35
Cindy_:
https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/156515
14:19:50
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/mozilla.org/91910bc09c6f994182eca1a9b60b587e19ea8ea72020140698145128448.png (image.png)
14:20:03
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
and you can see bing have chinese version
14:20:04
Cindy_:
read the link above
14:20:31
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
ok
14:20:33
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
wait
14:22:03
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
github server error
14:22:05
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
yeah
14:22:29
Cindy_:
this was what i was talking about
14:22:32
Cindy_:
did github change? :P
14:23:06
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
and i think some people use china net to attack gh
14:23:21
Cindy_:
i see
14:23:39
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
yes
14:24:23
Cindy_:
i've heard of huawei cloud or whatever the fuck scraping the internet
14:24:31
Cindy_:
for their AI
14:24:50
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
It's hard for you to understand,
14:24:50
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
GitHub has opened up its servers to China, but Chinese internet service providers are trying their best to block GitHub, as some open-source projects have affected the interests of certain individuals.
14:25:49
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
Cindy_: yeah,i think too
14:26:46
Cindy_:
okay now i see
14:26:49
Cindy_:
it's just chinese ISPs
14:26:52
Cindy_:
sorry
14:27:10
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
fuck ips
14:27:13
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
isp
14:27:41
Cindy_:
same
14:28:05
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
Operators(ISP) are evil and unscrupulous, but we can always outsmart their tricks
14:29:29
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
so,what do you think about my blog.
14:29:30
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
https://jackie.openenet.cn/
14:29:51
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
Cindy_:
14:31:16
Cindy_:
hm
14:31:42
Cindy_:
does your blog talk about ham radios too?
14:31:51
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
yes
14:31:57
Cindy_:
nice
14:32:01
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
I'm a ham
14:32:35
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
However, I haven't passed the B-level exam yet, so I can't use short-wave radio
14:33:15
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
I have to take a shower
14:33:16
Cindy_:
damn
14:33:21
Cindy_:
see ya
14:33:47
pyxmr2025:mozilla.org:
bye
14:35:26
orly_owl:
oh i thought that smell was Cindy_
15:18:25
BlueyHealer:
<basses:matrix.org> China is already developing their own OSes nowadays <- I know about HarmonyOS, but IDK if it can be despooked like AOSP can.
16:55:03
basses:matrix.org:
HarmonyOS is also a desktop OS
17:00:22
BlueyHealer:
Yeah, although not sure how useful that is.
17:00:53
BlueyHealer:
Like, I don't think the stock ones are any better than Google's, they're just spooky in a different way.
17:02:19
basses:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/xejmAIDZjMlfFKDhYxpDQWoY.png (image.png)
17:02:19
ravfx:xmr.mx:
@basses:matrix.org: And a router os
17:02:37
basses:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: is there even something close to Nano banana?
17:02:48
basses:matrix.org:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: isn't it also written in Rust?
17:03:35
basses:matrix.org:
It is basically like Linux kernel and can run on a lot of hardware
17:04:11
basses:matrix.org:
https://trusted-programming.github.io/
17:06:01
basses:matrix.org:
@basses:matrix.org: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HarmonyOS
17:06:01
basses:matrix.org:
C, C++, JavaScript, ArkTS, Cangjie,[1] Rust and others
17:10:13
basses:matrix.org:
also a Microkernel
17:11:48
basses:matrix.org:
Supported platforms: 64-bit ARM
17:12:27
BlueyHealer:
Proprietary though
17:13:30
BlueyHealer:
So... Wouldn't that not be an improvenment over Windows?
17:24:56
basses:matrix.org:
yeah
17:25:14
basses:matrix.org:
you will probably care more about https://www.redox-os.org/
17:39:06
BlueyHealer:
Never heard of that
18:01:43
basses:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/CcdZXRNHsLcUEZJCBYHmNmoS.png (image.png)
18:01:44
basses:matrix.org:
LOL
19:17:08
basses:matrix.org:
https://github.com/jakubvalenta/geoshare
19:31:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
eBPF rootkits/backdoors are so cool!
20:22:02
321bob321:
@ravfx:xmr.mx: https://tetragon.io/
20:33:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Oh yeah, that eBPF thing is extremely useful, shit like Safing Portmaster use it too.
20:33:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
But it's on by default on pretty much all Linux that is not Gentoo, and most users don't need it.
20:34:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It allow running code with kernel privilege in some kind of kernel VM and now it pretty much run native code instead of byte code.
20:34:17
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It's pretty extensive that thing.
20:50:12
321bob321:
tetragon is more of an alert and tracing tool like falco