10:00:33 321bob321: https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1qrrim7/openclaw_is_chatty/
10:00:33 321bob321: Lol
11:17:16 0xfffc: https://www.clawdict.com/markets
11:20:40 321bob321: https://www.clawdict.com/markets/will-gta-6-cost-100
11:20:40 321bob321: Plausible
13:24:33 0xfffc: https://openclaw.ai/
16:21:54 basses:matrix.org: https://redlib.catsarch.com/r/firefox/comments/1qkqfcx/firefox_sandbox_isolation_hits_level_9_the_gap/
16:44:40 basses:matrix.org: windows only
17:00:15 hopeful26:unredacted.org: someone here uses qbittorrent with i2pd?
17:01:43 hopeful26:unredacted.org: i need help
17:12:15 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Sup?
17:12:31 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Dontasktoask.com
17:31:24 torir:matrix.org: Last time I needed to torrent something over i2pd I used BiglyBT, I've never done it with qBittorrent.
17:33:07 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @torir:matrix.org: it is what i use now but i like much morer qbt, i dont like bigly bt ux
17:33:20 torir:matrix.org: Yeah, I hate it too.
17:34:25 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @torir:matrix.org: biglybt looks like is a windows program haha
17:35:37 BlueyHealer: With Qbittorrent existing, I wonder why uTorrent was even so popular...
17:39:02 torir:matrix.org: qBittorrent is the open source fork of when uTorrent went closed source.
17:39:33 torir:matrix.org: uTorrent was open source and was one of the best before it went closed source, the developers leveraged the popularity of the name I assume.
17:40:04 BlueyHealer: IT WAS?
17:40:38 BlueyHealer: Also I did use to use uTorrent as a kid, but only because the computer came with it.
17:41:36 torir:matrix.org: Nevermind, uTorrent was always closed source.
17:41:40 hopeful26:unredacted.org: BlueyHealer: most of people are subhumans
17:41:46 torir:matrix.org: BitTorrent was the client that went closed source.
17:42:43 ravfx:xmr.mx: @torir:matrix.org: Yeah, totally.
17:42:43 ravfx:xmr.mx: uTorrent got brought and then they just enshitified it with trackers. It's malware by today standard
17:42:45 BlueyHealer: That's kind of a "big ego" response though
17:42:57 torir:matrix.org: At one point it was one of the best Bittorrent clients though, despite being closed source.
17:42:58 hopeful26:unredacted.org: @torir:matrix.org: qbittorrent is a fork of BitTorrent?
17:43:15 torir:matrix.org: Yeah, I misremembered some information. uTorrent wasn't ever open source.
17:43:36 torir:matrix.org: But it was one of the best torrent clients for a while, then it wasn't.
17:43:53 BlueyHealer: Like, in what regards was it better? More feature-rich? Less buggy? More polished?
17:44:38 ravfx:xmr.mx: uTorrent used to be great.
17:44:38 ravfx:xmr.mx: Clean, fast, etc, etc
17:44:45 BlueyHealer: (I still can't get over someone calling people subhuman lol, large egos are amusing to come by)
17:44:48 ravfx:xmr.mx: Until some other corpo brought it, not remember which one
17:44:52 torir:matrix.org: It was lightweight, fast, clean interface, no blaot.
17:44:54 torir:matrix.org: bloat*
17:45:19 hopeful26:unredacted.org: BlueyHealer: some people dont give a shit about good things
17:45:21 BlueyHealer: Ah, so it did use to have a better reputation. Makes sense.
17:45:23 hopeful26:unredacted.org: they are npcs
17:45:23 ravfx:xmr.mx: Then yeah, they used the fact it was the most popular client to enshitify it to the max
17:45:58 ravfx:xmr.mx: Yeah, great client, corpo buy it, add ton of shit in it and use it's dominance of the torrent client to propagate the malwares
17:46:29 ravfx:xmr.mx: Even people TODAY get uTorrent thinking it's still the best 😂
17:47:01 ravfx:xmr.mx: Then when I see a compuuter with uTorrent I have to enable the quarantine protocol and do a clean up (and replace it with qbitorrent
17:47:04 torir:matrix.org: At one point it legitimately was, the only downside being it wasn't open. But it sure felt like an open source program at the time. There was no bloat at all.
17:47:26 ravfx:xmr.mx: Ton of closed programs used to be great back then, ton.
17:47:32 ravfx:xmr.mx: Ton of open programs are shit today
17:48:01 torir:matrix.org: foobar2000 is still great, though there are good open source options for music now as well.
17:48:04 ravfx:xmr.mx: for example, Element X 😂
17:48:04 ravfx:xmr.mx: Still no search function, gtfo
17:48:44 ravfx:xmr.mx: @torir:matrix.org: Still funny thru how on my relics, Foobar is way inferior to winamp 2.95ish
17:49:48 ravfx:xmr.mx: but they enshitified winamp in the later version when they integrated it with inferior foss code, mainly, the mp3 decoding code
17:50:15 ravfx:xmr.mx: Probably the new owner could not cope with assembly code and just... let's use mpg123 and friends instead
17:51:29 ravfx:xmr.mx: (on my over "486" system)
17:51:30 ravfx:xmr.mx: NetBSD + mpg123 (intense hikhuping like, unplayable)
17:51:30 ravfx:xmr.mx: Win NT4 + Foobar2000 (It's worst than mpg123)
17:51:30 ravfx:xmr.mx: Win NT4 + Winamp 2.95ish (It just work)
17:52:26 torir:matrix.org: The reason I used BiglyBT is that BiglyBT officially supports i2p while qBittorrent only has experimental support. The downside of BiglyBT is the entire UI for BiglyBT feels "experimental".
17:52:56 ravfx:xmr.mx: If it work who really care if it "feels" experimental
17:53:05 ravfx:xmr.mx: I did not know BiglyBT
17:53:29 torir:matrix.org: You can also run I2PSnark in standalone mode, which is probably the best option if you are worried about clearnet leaks since I2PSnark can't clearnet at all to my knowledge.
17:54:47 torir:matrix.org: By "experimental" I mean "really bad". Feels like a bad Electron app, it behaves like an unpolished web UI.
17:54:55 torir:matrix.org: Maybe it is Electron, I didn't check.
17:55:49 torir:matrix.org: I don't think it is, but the UI elements are wierd, there are too many options and ideal configuration is unclear.
17:57:01 BlueyHealer: foobar2000 is still great, though there are good open source options for music now as well. <- and what's the appeal of that? I barely hear about it.
17:57:28 BlueyHealer: As for uTorrent - that childhood OS is long gone, but that might've been a version that never got updated.
17:58:01 BlueyHealer: <ravfx:xmr.mx> Still no search function, gtfo <- The biggest "nope" for me was the annoying notification to back up my keys on the server that THERE WAS NO WAY TO TURN OFF
17:58:03 BlueyHealer: WHY
17:58:14 torir:matrix.org: At the time I was looking for a music player with replaygain support, and many open source options didn't have that. A clean UI was a plus.
17:59:35 BlueyHealer: Right now I use VLC, but I wonder if there are "cleaner" options that let you have a "library", like VLC does on mobile. For now I update a big playlist every time I add something.
18:01:53 torir:matrix.org: I currently use Quod Libet, which comes with a great bulk metadata editing tool.
18:02:03 torir:matrix.org: People use VLC as a default because it will play nearly anything, but the UI is missing nice things like library management.
18:03:13 torir:matrix.org: Quod Libet also has advanced filtering options, you can filter out songs that played in the last 24 hours to guarantee no repeats, for instance.
18:03:37 BlueyHealer: I use it for videos. Never tried Quod Libet even though it comes preinstalled, and metadata I always edited in a separate tool.
18:08:23 torir:matrix.org: Ex Falso is a metadata editing tool that is installed \with Quod Libet but can run standalone. What do you use?
18:11:42 BlueyHealer: I said I used VLC, but this seems nice!
18:57:34 321bob321: https://www.404media.co/exposed-moltbook-database-let-anyone-take-control-of-any-ai-agent-on-the-site/
19:01:05 BlueyHealer: what could possibly go wrong
19:09:05 0xfffc: 🍿
19:25:47 nioc: today in birds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnUN4wIxzmI
19:42:50 Cindy: what do people think of flatpak
20:06:38 321bob321: Its flat
20:55:26 basses:matrix.org: Cindy: works on my machine
22:53:46 azerx: howdy folkz