01:20:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Trust the crates!
01:24:49
321bob321:
All 400 of them
01:25:06
ravfx:xmr.mx:
only 400?
01:25:19
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Should import at least a thousand or something
01:25:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
More is better they say!
07:25:36
321bob321:
https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/1pfgv4v/i_just_got_hacked_somehow/
07:25:36
321bob321:
Free miner
07:26:18
BlueyHealer:
oh it's THAT cve
08:00:51
sech1:
so this is why p2pool suddenly bumped to 420 MH/s
10:22:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I did see that cve, also expected ton of shit to get hacked
10:25:03
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Only reason i remember next.js is because it have telemetry!
10:25:33
BlueyHealer:
How extensive? Was it a drama?
10:27:41
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Not really drama. A friend asked me to install perplexity shit and the docker failed to build because of next.js.. Then I did dig a little deeper...
10:29:40
basses:matrix.org:
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/anonymizing-bitcoin/31294/28
10:29:40
basses:matrix.org:
> I am writing a book and I believe lightning is more secure and private than monero from any POV.
10:30:34
ravfx:xmr.mx:
That LN stuff dont even work half the time lol
10:31:12
basses:matrix.org:
https://nextjs.org/blog/CVE-2025-66478 > <@ravfx:xmr.mx> I did see that cve, also expected ton of shit to get hacked
10:31:20
basses:matrix.org:
https://react.dev/blog/2025/12/03/critical-security-vulnerability-in-react-server-components
10:34:52
321bob321:
@basses:matrix.org: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/samourai-wallet-co-founder-sentenced
10:35:29
basses:matrix.org:
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/session-requires-age-verification-in-play-store/33601/1
10:35:32
basses:matrix.org:
lol
10:36:34
basses:matrix.org:
is it because of crypto or it is e2ee?
10:37:22
BlueyHealer:
one should not be using play store anyway
10:38:30
321bob321:
Social media ban
10:39:37
gan:skhron.org:
Unhinged statement > <@basses:matrix.org> https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/anonymizing-bitcoin/31294/28
10:39:48
gan:skhron.org:
BlueyHealer: one shouldn't use session
10:41:30
BlueyHealer:
True as well
10:45:39
BlueyHealer:
I've also heard that Lightning self-custody is harder than for normal BTC or XMR, isn't it?
10:47:48
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: Yeah. You need btc and then you need to open a douzen channels (if you want it to work more than half the time)
10:47:48
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Then you need to backup every tunnel data but in case you lose your wallet, the backup only allow you to close the channels.
10:48:20
BlueyHealer:
WDYM by the last one?
10:48:23
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Lot of extra step a normie can fail to do.
10:49:02
BlueyHealer:
I mean "the backup will only allow you to close the channels"
10:49:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: You export every tunnel (it make qr code).
10:49:31
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Then when you restore your wallet, you can then use said qr codes to nuke your channels and get the money back from them
10:50:18
ravfx:xmr.mx:
You cant restore the channel to then use them, you nuke them then you create new channels
10:50:49
BlueyHealer:
Ah!
10:51:26
ravfx:xmr.mx:
So if you did not backup the channels then afaik, after a wallet restore you wont have access to that money except if the other size force close them. I think
10:51:49
BlueyHealer:
So the channels require locking some funds! And is that expensive?
10:51:56
BlueyHealer:
thanks
10:52:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
It cost normal bitcorn fee.
10:52:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And yes, you lock SIZE_OF_CHANNEL btc when you create the channel
10:54:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
You can only spend whats locked in a channel. And only from one channel. So if you want to spend 0.1btc but all your channel have less than that then you can't spend
10:56:58
BlueyHealer:
oh
11:00:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Then you want to balance your channel from time to time. Or just refill them.
11:00:38
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Or close them and open new ones when it still fail to receive money after 2000 tentatives
11:04:01
ravfx:xmr.mx:
If you want to receive money with LN, you can ask someone to open a channel with you (or pay for that service).. Or use a swapper to pay LN->btc (size_of_channel from a few of your channel to your btc address)
11:04:52
basses:matrix.org:
seems convienet
11:06:16
321bob321:
Don't close the channel either
11:06:44
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Channel are juse money buffers. In a channel. Say you open one for 0.1btc, then it have 0.1btc on your end of it and it can't contain more than 0.1btc so it cant receive). The more you sent to the other end of the channel, the more the other end of the channel can send back to you
11:06:46
basses:matrix.org:
I wish someone created a much easier way to do all of that and call it Monero
11:09:24
ravfx:xmr.mx:
When you close a channel, is when the channel money go into normal btc balance (whatever left on your end, go in your btc wallet, the other end go in the other end btc wallet)
11:11:28
ravfx:xmr.mx:
I dont considere that scam really usable. So much time it fail to pay, hence the need to have a dozen so more chance than one work. Ideally for more success chance you open them with very centralized nodes. That or to where you normally pay (open one with bitrefill, open another with coinpayment, then one with fixedfloat, etc etc)
11:12:42
BlueyHealer:
And if you accidentally close the channels? You're supposed to make a backup immediately after you open them specifically in such a case?
11:14:02
ravfx:xmr.mx:
The one with fixedfloat, you have to send like half the money on the other side. That way when it dont work for a payment, you can use fixedfloat xmr->ln to pay for the thing THEN when it fail from fixedfloat end, they can only refund to a LN invoice, hence then need to have a half empty channel with them.
11:15:43
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: You make a backup in case you lose your wallet. Ideally after you open them, the same as you should write your seed down after a wallet creation.
11:15:45
ravfx:xmr.mx:
If you close a channel, both end receive there part of the channel back in there normal btc address
11:16:39
ravfx:xmr.mx:
After a channel is closed, you got your money back and can get rid of that specific channel backip
11:21:30
BlueyHealer:
Ah!
11:21:50
BlueyHealer:
Ah! So backup is of the wallet as a whole, not the channels, and closing the channes would be ok?
11:22:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
And that one about fixedfloat, its a thing, be aware that if you use swapper, to pay LN invoice with XMR, that if the swapper fail to pay the invoice you asked them to pay.
11:22:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Then they can ONLY refund you with LN ( so you are forced to obtain actual btc and open channels to get the refund)
11:22:29
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Or use another swapper to do LN->xmr and send that invoice as refund address and hope it work.
11:23:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
BlueyHealer: You have the seed as wallet backup.
11:23:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Then you need to create a new backup for each channel (they are independant from wallet backup)
11:23:33
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Yes, closing channel is fine
11:24:06
BlueyHealer:
Thanks!
11:29:10
ravfx:xmr.mx:
If you dont have the channel backups and restore your wallet, you have to wait for the other party to force close the channels (hopefully after a few months they see that the channel is offline they will, maybe....)
11:32:28
BlueyHealer:
Ah, so you just need to make backups continuously when using the wallet.
11:35:13
ravfx:xmr.mx:
You, make new channels backup as you open them. You dont have to backup again when you use them, only creation.
11:35:55
BlueyHealer:
Yeah, so understood right
11:36:00
BlueyHealer:
Thanks!
11:49:15
ravfx:xmr.mx:
Afaik, when you force close a channel, from a backup, the other party can cheat (you dont know the status of the channel, how much money is at both end). So the other party can keep the money. (Someone can correct me if I am wrong).
11:49:16
ravfx:xmr.mx:
To protect again that you must use Watch Towers (i think its how there called)
11:51:09
BlueyHealer:
Lol, even more complication
11:54:27
321bob321:
Sounds like its ready for mainstream use
14:17:52
basses:matrix.org:
how many chain analysis companies does justin(sgp) work for?
14:19:03
basses:matrix.org:
I literally just saw him on NAXO boards
14:19:14
basses:matrix.org:
also he is running Moonstone
14:48:41
superquantum:
https://github.com/MAGICGrants/Monero-Fund-Elections
15:58:27
cornfeedhobo:
eventually the ln would get centralized and resemble existing banking connections
16:06:36
basses:matrix.org:
https://telefoncek.si/2025/02/2025-02-10-hidden-microphone-on-nanokvm/
17:33:53
nioc:
there is no such thing as paranoia
17:33:56
nioc:
your worst fears can come true at any moment
18:25:06
nioc:
a London based firm has sold more than 30,000 alien abduction insurance policies throughout Europe
21:12:11
DataHoarder:
monero made me mad today again
21:12:21
DataHoarder:
"yeah just load exported key images for testing"
21:12:31
DataHoarder:
well they are encrypted with view key, no problem ...
21:12:52
DataHoarder:
... key derivation requires using Cryptonight V0 :D
21:12:54
DataHoarder:
so now implementing that
21:13:05
DataHoarder:
... cryptonight v0 requires 5 other hash functions :D
21:16:45
321bob321:
nioc: Not covered under my life insurance ?
21:18:01
nioc:
usually not
21:19:01
nioc:
if you want to collect you ofc need to provide proof
21:36:00
sixtheye:matrix.org:
Hey, what's up?
23:38:20
DataHoarder:
this was some side quest lol https://git.gammaspectra.live/P2Pool/consensus/commit/93f361f929ea6c7abd2e9c7acadc37821bde9f0a
23:54:29
nioc:
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