01:11:29
n1oc:
[CCS Proposals] 0xFFFC opened merge request #649: navidr 3 months full-time cuprate dev https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/649
10:45:20
321bob321:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1rmnpot/looking_for_a_monerotopia_show_helper/
11:27:38
nvr_:matrix.org:
@plowsof:matrix.org: https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/526#note_34806
11:28:44
plowsof:
you have also cited your pull request correctly but failed to mention that in the comment
11:28:55
plowsof:
thanks
11:32:53
plowsof:
sweetkanoe messaged me to share this garbage repo https://github.com/Madmangone/nostr-bot-bounty
11:45:30
nvr_:matrix.org:
plowsof: oh, Thanks for catching. fixed the link ( it was only showing my "open" pull requests. excluding the merged ones )
12:43:38
plowsof:
there was no overlap https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/649#note_34811
12:47:47
nvr_:matrix.org:
https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/649#note_34812
12:48:12
nvr_:matrix.org:
plowsof:
12:49:26
nvr_:matrix.org:
can we cut to the chase? where we are going with this discussion. if there is a problem I can close my ccs.
14:40:31
tigerthecat:matrix.org:
Does anyone know if they do monero meet ups in UK London? I'd love go learn more or go to an event.
14:40:31
tigerthecat:matrix.org:
Ive seen a few bitcoin meet ups but nothing really for monero
14:40:54
0xfffc:
plowsof: I did not know we have to disclose every detail of our lives for our ccs :)
15:01:35
dukenukem:
0xfffc we're waiting for your blood sample and drug test results, sir.
15:01:48
dukenukem:
we test for meth and coke.
15:02:33
0xfffc:
Ha ha. I had to report my hobbies too :)
15:02:44
dukenukem:
0xfffc what do you do in your spare time?
15:03:01
0xfffc:
Read.
15:03:09
dukenukem:
what kind of literature?
15:03:22
dukenukem:
we do not allow dystopian or non-fiction literature, unfortunately.
15:03:30
dukenukem:
it might affect your programming decision process.
15:04:53
0xfffc:
dukenukem: I lose my income (ccs) just because of this. That’s unfair!
15:04:57
0xfffc:
dukenukem: Everything pre 1940
15:08:52
dukenukem:
0xfffc them the rules!
15:09:03
dukenukem:
pre-1940? what are you? a dinosaur?
16:49:56
plowsof:
"every detail of our lives for our ccs :)"- good use of "our" here with the multiple alts, but no, questions regarding your previous or current employment during your active CCS when i see a clear overlap whicih you deny but git history exists. and it possibly interfering with your throughput : i can cite you considering to close your current CCS /
16:49:57
plowsof:
re-purpose the funds into a new proposal - like 2 days ago, which is now turned into 'request payout and open new ccs'
16:52:08
plowsof:
one of the alts PR's for firo: https://github.com/firoorg/firo/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aaleflm
16:52:39
plowsof:
can you confirm your paid relationship with firo lasted for 10 days only?
18:10:16
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
The time for worrying about a contributor working overtime or doing side-hustles/gigs is when their code quality and speed suffer. There haven't been any issues and I don't expect there to be any, either... in 0xFCCC's case the only issue has been their choice to take a break recently. I think lessons learned while "studying [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/tfP2l-0KaTVVUGFK ]
18:10:16
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
We also don't know the form in which Firo was (supposedly) paying but a common story among Monero devs is that they express difficulty living on XMR-only CCS et al payments. Seeking out alternative or easier-to-use wage formats makes sense
18:23:16
plowsof:
"haven't been any issues" .. "the only issue" .. i've asked for transparency / disclosure of other engagements that overlap and directly compete with time to complete CCS milestones. why are you writing "(supposodly)" when they where mentioned in months https://funding.firo.org/proposals/core-team-assistance-march-2024-reuben "Developer Pay (covers
18:23:16
plowsof:
4 developers Peter, Levon, Artur, Narek and Aleflm)" "(supposedly"? and again in april https://funding.firo.org/proposals/core-team-assistance-april-2024-reuben "Developer Pay (covers 4 developers Peter, Levon, Artur, Narek and Aleflm) 30,000 USD/month" - but he is saying it was 10 days (?)
18:47:06
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
right, a choice to take a break isn't an issue
18:47:57
plowsof:
has 0xfff publicly disclosed they where taking a break?
18:48:15
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
they said in chat before that they would be taking a break and be back someday right?
18:48:24
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
supposedly was bad phrasing--"suppose Firo did pay--"
18:48:44
plowsof:
no need to suppose as ive linked already previous to your comment
18:48:51
plowsof:
lol
18:49:06
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
fair enough :)
18:50:58
plowsof:
ive also left a comment reg the "monero attack" where confs where increased from 3 to 20 or something, which had no effect on me personally https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/649#note_34821
18:52:07
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
@jbabb:cypherstack.com: ... and suppose not--so the issue's potential nondisclosure of overlap/overtime or conflict of interest
18:52:30
plowsof:matrix.org:
navidr: can you link to a public comment where you have mentioned taking a break recently please
18:53:50
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
OK, I see what you mean > <plowsof> one of the alts PR's for firo: https://github.com/firoorg/firo/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aaleflm
19:06:24
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I couldn't find any but my searching skills may be weak. Probably misrecalled or just substituted dangerous's which seems to be the most recent (?)
19:07:01
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
so if there's overlap, disclosure may be in order
19:08:00
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
re: issues, I meant if the issues are delays on milestones--there weren't any, were there? I am not as attuned to the process as you are, sorry
19:08:32
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@jbabb:cypherstack.com: Technically yes
19:08:41
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
The ccs was 3 months, opened dec 2024
19:08:59
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
ah, then I may be wrong there and just unaware
19:09:40
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
and these PRs the next year https://github.com/firoorg/firo/pulls?q=is%3Apr+author%3Aaleflm
19:09:51
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Delays on milestones arent usually a big deal though, im just saying that there were
19:12:38
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Probably the biggest questions are related to unaddressed deliverables from the completed and wip proposals, work handed off to other devs due to time constraints (txrelay), the request to repurpose the funds to change focus, and then the self-doxxing that revealed that work was being done for firo during this time
19:13:23
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
so--I'm just not up to date, sorry
19:13:28
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
it's plowsof's job to keep things honest, so i wouldnt assume malice here. Just doing his job
19:27:36
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
re: "and these PRs the next year" should actually read "and these PRs from then into the next year": they actually they span probable work late march 2024 til 2025
19:28:29
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I just hadn't looked thru them all to see when they started. remind me to stay out of plowsof's lane
19:56:25
plowsof:
jbabb thank you for the feedback, this is not my lane ok thats the worst thing to come out of this, it's an open discussion, there are people who have the same thoughts and questions pull more information in to view. nobody is managing individual devs' day-to-day tasks or time management / ensuring work/life commitments. plenty of devs are 'late'
19:56:25
plowsof:
achieving milestones, have unhealthy work/life balance which can lead to burnouts and i sympathise with them. some have flat out said they are taking an indefinite break from monero and are loving it so will continue not contributing, or are transparent about their paid commitments along side their ccs work, or tell plowsof to seriously stfu, all
19:56:25
plowsof:
fine
19:57:58
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
well, remind me to disclose fully not to plowsof but more importantly, the community at large, eh? but sorry still to add some nonsense to the mix
21:01:33
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
I said there haven't been issues but https://matrix.to/#/!WzzKmkfUkXPHFERgvm:matrix.org/$RAqTi8MXv5mc2esph2UvRNmexq73T4nCxLPOS52ebRc not getting into stressnet was an issue. My premise that there weren't any issues was wrong
21:06:19
jbabb:cypherstack.com:
and I couched everything as "potential nondisclosure" etc but there were delays that seem to be explained by overlapping work. I normally wouldn't nitpick but I gotta be accountable when I misspeak
21:36:25
jeffro256:
FWIW Tx relay v2 has been in stressnet the last month or so since v1.6
22:00:44
n1oc:
[CCS Proposals] jpk68 opened merge request #650: jpk68 part-time work on I2P support (3 months) https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/650
22:05:54
jpk68:matrix.org:
:))
23:20:49
0xfffc:
plowsof honestly, I don’t understand what you are trying to achieve here. I said it as straight as I can. If you think there is issue with the ccs, let me know and I will close it.
23:20:58
0xfffc:
@plowsof:matrix.org
23:27:40
0xfffc:
I think you are wrong though. At that time the whole structure of ccs broke. > <plowsof> ive also left a comment reg the "monero attack" where confs where increased from 3 to 20 or something, which had no effect on me personally https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/649#note_34821
23:27:41
0xfffc:
Anyway as I said, I am not gonna prove it otherwise.
23:27:50
0xfffc:
It is better to cut to the chase.
23:28:22
0xfffc:
If you think there is issue with the ccs, let me know. > <@0xfffc> plowsof honestly, I don’t understand what you are trying to achieve here. I said it as straight as I can. If you think there is issue with the ccs, let me know and I will close it.