01:34:13
321bob321:
They want a kickback for signing people up
01:41:15
imprevisto:matrix.org:
this is definitely the most insane very clear demand
13:13:00
ohchase:envs.net:
> <@4rkal> I’m not sure i get the question. Yes some exchanges allow you to add an additional partner fee
13:13:00
ohchase:envs.net:
Sorry, I know there is a lot of aggregators and they all kinda say there is no additional fee when using them but I then became curious if that's absolutely true because of some of the partner exchanges having variable fee specifications and how that interacts with the margins. I see some aggregators provide a protection mecha [... too long, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/p_WPq9QKVkxGZkgt ]
14:21:53
plowsof:
Meeting in 1hr38 mins https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1314
14:58:27
4rkal:
@ohchase:envs.net: We don’t add any additional fees to our users. Also the insurance guarantee in our case is provided by the exchanges themselves but held by us.
15:25:23
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
Why does the monero podcast start at the same time as the meeting ? 😭
15:37:02
plowsof:
Will likely finish before the price report begins
15:45:04
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@lm:matrix.baermail.fr: The podcast is like 5hrs long
15:45:48
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
to not overlap, we'd have to do the meeting at 5am utc or 11pm utc
15:59:15
plowsof:
meeting time https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1314
15:59:44
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
👋
15:59:52
redsh4de:matrix.org:
👋
15:59:57
michael:
Hello.
15:59:57
plowsof:
greetings !
16:00:13
ohchase:envs.net:
👋
16:00:26
plowsof:
Ruckniums network scan tool : https://moneronet.info/ 👀 boog900 shared in the last MRL meeting an update to the ban list @ https://github.com/Boog900/monero-ban-list/pull/10 meeting logs: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/1310
16:01:04
plowsof:
how is site coming along redsh4de? 👋
16:01:15
plowsof:
https://beta.monerodevs.org/
16:01:41
redsh4de:matrix.org:
paragraphs incoming from me
16:02:37
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Soo, over the past 2 weeks, worked on adding three new pages to the website, some docs about how to add/modify/extend relevant content and use some utilities i made, and general improvements in various areas of the codebase - with a focus on making CSS more compact, weighing out a potential migration for SCSS due to it's support for nesting and general features that improve maintainability
16:02:44
redsh4de:matrix.org:
First, what's new since the last update
16:03:34
redsh4de:matrix.org:
1. "What is Monero?" page at https://beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/what-is-monero/
16:03:34
redsh4de:matrix.org:
The design is meant to follow a sectioned pitch deck style that tells a kind of a story (problem -> solution -> use cases), with a call to action section leading the user to either download a wallet or purchase Monero.
16:03:34
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Thought it also fitting to add a Learn More section with Dr. Daniel Kim's presentation about Monero (with subtitle options), as i think it really covers most questions people might have about what Monero is and why it matters. As always, all text on the current page can be considered a placeholder and is only for presentation purposes
16:03:47
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/kseRprcJsuNGyedaoGcbYydP.png (image.png)
16:04:46
redsh4de:matrix.org:
2. Exchanges page with eyecandy! https://beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/exchanges/
16:04:46
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Added a responsive exchanges page, with the options organized as such: Decentralized Exchanges, Aggregators, and CEXes - effectively sorted in a descending order by which ones are the most optimal for privacy.
16:04:46
redsh4de:matrix.org:
To avoid overwhelming users, made a filter sidebar/drawer to help newcomers quickly highlight the options that fit their situation - hopefully solving the common complaint that its difficult to buy Monero, which stems more from a bad presentation and discoverability of options rather than a lack of them[... more lines follow, see https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/e/joOFsNQKMWd6ajR3 ]
16:04:57
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Desktop view:
16:05:01
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/MUwFDEbGPOkakiNpYJoOBdUR.png (image.png)
16:05:04
redsh4de:matrix.org:
Mobile view:
16:05:07
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/AHrYnLgavROuzCKSRwwFQwNq.png (image.png)
16:05:37
redsh4de:matrix.org:
3. Merchants at https://beta.monerodevs.org/get-started/merchants/
16:05:37
redsh4de:matrix.org:
List of merchant directories for now - four options listed as of today
16:05:56
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://mrelay.p2pool.observer/m/matrix.org/gjzTcMzbvopdLfapYCLVlpdY.png (image.png)
16:06:43
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Looks good and loads real fast
16:06:50
plowsof:
nice progress redsh4de 💪images brought to us by the power of DataHoarders bridge. proposals currently open for funding -> https://ccs.getmonero.org/funding-required/
16:07:15
plowsof:
has GUPAXX made the migration to the gupax-io repo? https://github.com/gupax-io/gupax
16:08:29
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
plowsof: Gupax.io is up,
16:08:29
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
Codebase is merged, but I want to finish some code refactor before releasing gupax v2
16:08:54
plowsof:
i can share a small update about my attempt at tweaking some things on the CCS backend after feedback. i should be able to put a testnet instance showing unconfirmed amounts next week
16:09:17
nioc:
meow
16:09:44
plowsof:
aot of small tweaks needed that prevented ccs from seeing pool transactions at all - hidden in the depths of php
16:11:21
plowsof:
other requests such as 'red banner to tell people that overfunding likely wont go to the proposer*) ... and a KISS "external funding" - where the FR page would just link people to an external fund raiser, this was requested a while ago, might not be so useful now but its a possibility
16:11:59
plowsof:
nice lm 💪 pumping the p2pool hashrate : https://blocks.p2pool.observer/pools
16:12:16
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
Very impressed @redsh4de:matrix.org !
16:12:16
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
Did you planned for localization support ?
16:12:27
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@lm:matrix.baermail.fr: Yes
16:12:29
redsh4de:matrix.org:
planned? ;)
16:12:30
redsh4de:matrix.org:
already live
16:12:42
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Go check out the rtl arabic version
16:12:52
redsh4de:matrix.org:
https://beta.monerodevs.org/ar/
16:12:54
plowsof:
i hear the blockscaling wars may have ended? "(see MRL meetings) - https://github.com/ArticMine/Monero-Documents "
16:13:21
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Nope
16:13:34
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Our twitter friends are unhappy
16:13:35
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
I see it now, perfect !
16:14:18
redsh4de:matrix.org:
@lm:matrix.baermail.fr: wrote a lot of utilities to simplify localization for strings, more info about how it all works here: https://github.com/redsh4de/monero-site/blob/main/docs/how-to-add-localization-to-a-page.md
16:14:54
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
@ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: "After the recent backlash against a hard cap on the block size, it seems like the Monero developers have decided to cripple the scaling factors instead."
16:16:08
plowsof:
these monero developers sound really mean if true!
16:16:32
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Theyre racist bigots
16:17:29
plowsof:
so the people who are of the opinion that monero is going to be crippled are aware of the current technical limitations that put caps on sizes of certain things
16:17:50
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
So you're a racist too? Noted.
16:18:03
nioc:
they were promised infinite block size
16:18:09
plowsof:
😭
16:18:48
plowsof:
Noted and *ignored*
16:19:23
nioc:
website funding https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/redsh4de-getmonero-redesign.html
16:19:38
nioc:
general fund has donated
16:20:27
redsh4de:matrix.org:
nioc: Been spending a lot of time on the project, if anyone would like to support my work, do consider contributing <3
16:20:30
plowsof:
oh ' should the date displayed on the funding required page - be the date which it was put to funding ' to stop teitter from shaming us
16:20:43
redsh4de:matrix.org:
+1
16:20:59
plowsof:
its currently the date at which the porposer placed there to say 'i will begin from this date or intend to'
16:21:34
nioc:
put all the dates
16:21:43
plowsof:
yes
16:22:40
plowsof:
anything else anyone would like to mention?
16:23:09
plowsof:
News: [Monero Observer](https://www.monero.observer/) - [Revuo Monero](https://revuo-xmr.com/) - [This Week In Monero](https://cyphergoat.com/this-week-in-monero) (Oberver still on his 2nd break in 4 years)
16:23:23
redsh4de:matrix.org:
plowsof: in the list of proposals, i think the date shown must be the one on which the proposal went live
16:23:23
redsh4de:matrix.org:
same thing in the proposal view, with the proposal creation date being shown under it like a secondary item
16:24:19
redsh4de:matrix.org:
or in the body, like "Proposal created on XYZ"
16:24:33
plowsof:
yep , we can probably show all the dates clearly, and they can be ordered on the publish date - rather than the 'i intend to begin @' date
16:25:53
plowsof:
any feedback on the open ccs ideas?
16:26:06
plowsof:
a. [39C3 Support](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/622)
16:27:15
redsh4de:matrix.org:
supporting a presence as 39C3 is very +EV imo, im for it. planning to visit the congress myself
16:27:22
redsh4de:matrix.org:
s/as/at
16:29:09
plowsof:
b. [Sneedlewoods-03_part-time_dev_work-Q1-26](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/634)
16:29:26
plowsof:
has been brought up in no-wallet-left-behind meetings with positive feedback
16:29:38
nioc:
++1
16:29:54
redsh4de:matrix.org:
+1
16:30:10
plowsof:
thanks for feedback. and speaking of events:
16:30:22
plowsof:
d. Events workgroup - [MoneroKon 2026](https://monerokon.org) - a venue for 2026 is still being discussed
16:30:55
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
27-30 december is very close, is it an issue to have it funded after the event ? > <plowsof> a. [39C3 Support](https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/622)
16:31:20
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
Usually ppl put the date as the current date that they opened entered the idea stage > <plowsof> yep , we can probably show all the dates clearly, and they can be ordered on the publish date - rather than the 'i intend to begin @' date
16:31:32
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
It should probably be changed to match the merge date
16:32:05
plowsof:
#monero-events to follow along i i hear the bitcoin film festival are open to sharing the venue in Warsaw
16:32:10
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
can also maybe add extra fields for idea -> funding -> wip
16:32:54
nioc:
I believe questions were brought up last meeting about the 39C3 proposal. Were they addressed?
16:35:31
plowsof:
most discussion happened here https://libera.monerologs.net/monero-community/20251122#c615861
16:35:48
plowsof:
if they are addresses people can give a thumbs up otherwise no
16:36:28
plowsof:
" although with C3 getting close, would be nice to get this approved or denied so we can know whether to go elsewhere for money if needed"
16:36:35
plowsof:
"that said, given the slow donations of current proposals in FR I don't foresee it getting funded quickly even if merged"
16:36:56
ofrnxmr:xmr.mx:
plowsof: this is my immediate thought
16:38:48
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
They could always sed 2025 2026 😐
16:40:11
plowsof:
any more feedbacks
16:40:35
plowsof:
because h. [FCMP++ Stressnet](https://github.com/seraphis-migration) https://stressnet.p2pool.observer/
16:40:35
plowsof:
- "Ruckniums 1.4 release is using 107gb of ram compared to 1.5-prerelease using 14gb" via ofrnxmr
16:40:45
plowsof:
and an upcoming monero core 18.4.5 release
16:42:31
plowsof:
🥶
16:44:05
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
🤧
16:45:36
plowsof:
this is the last meeting of 2025 give yourselves a pat on the back please
16:46:22
plowsof:
get well soon lm 🔥 🙌
16:48:16
plowsof:
any other business before i freeze, i'd like to put an open end here for humanitarian reasons and thank everyone for joining
16:48:26
nioc:
I have not seen any recent communication from the 39C3 proposal and doesn't seem like they are here today
16:49:00
plowsof:
pls continue
16:53:57
michael:
Dankon very much for a good meeting and great moderation.
19:00:18
weshxtra:matrix.org:
hi
19:00:53
lm:matrix.baermail.fr:
https://nohello.net
19:01:03
weshxtra:matrix.org:
i discovered monero i like its purpose
21:38:38
torir:matrix.org:
#monero:monero.social is the main room for Monero dicussion.