00:59:56 n1oc: anon: full-time on daemon and fcmp is now fully funded! https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/anon-10302025.html @luigi1111
01:37:06 n1oc: [CCS Proposals] plowsoff opened merge request #631: anon/jeffro to wip https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/-/merge_requests/631
17:11:51 xlowt:matrix.org: I just shared a detailed technical analysis of the current version (v5). If you disagree, please point to specific lines of code that you consider unsafe. > <plowsof> easymonerod is unsafe AI slop
17:11:51 xlowt:matrix.org: "AI slop" is not a technical argument. The code works, the security practices are correct (SSH hardening, optional RPC password, backups before modifications), and the script is clearly intended for beginners with a dedicated PC.
17:11:51 xlowt:matrix.org: If you have specific concerns about the current version, I'm happy to discuss them.
17:37:44 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: I honestly don't feel like reviewing ai...slop, but as a start, you're wrong about rpc-bind-ip=0.0.0.0. The config you ship is an obvious dangerous point. I can literally, remotely, delete users of easymonerod's blockchains
17:38:56 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: As much as might usually like to help, i'm on, and have been on strike when it comes to vibe coded projects, especially with obvious and glaring mistakes
17:41:52 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: If the basics aren't done right, i feel its not my job to clean up every little (and dangerous, iirc there were many, and probably still is) mistake in a 1700 line 100% claude production
17:43:00 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Like... why touching things that you dont understand, and then shipping it to "noobs" who are literally going to get rekt by running this
17:56:18 DataHoarder: slop at best harmful at worst, and this errs towards the second
17:56:46 DataHoarder: something made without deep knowledge by hallucination, aimed towards users that also don't understand it
17:59:19 DataHoarder: use stuff to review, but not to build safety/privacy critical services.
18:28:54 hbs:matrix.org: Rule #1, if no human spent time writing it, I'm not spending time reading it
18:50:16 xlowt:matrix.org: You're right about rpc-bind-ip=0.0.0.0 without restriction. This has been fixed — restricted-rpc=1 is now added to the configuration. The RPC is now limited to read-only operations.
18:50:16 xlowt:matrix.org: Thanks for pointing this out.
18:50:16 xlowt:matrix.org: That said, in my country, 95% of people are computer illiterate. Your tools are too complicated for them. It's better to have an easy-to-use software that still needs improvement than a professional tool that nobody knows how to use.
18:50:16 xlowt:matrix.org: At least this gets more people running nodes. Perfect is the enemy of good.
18:54:04 plowsof: Rekt at v5 still? 😆
18:54:34 plowsof: Is everything you are typing here ctrl+v'd from chatgpt?
18:55:25 plowsof: Nobody who can string 2 sentences together would produce that piece of garbage surely
19:00:14 DataHoarder: > That said, in my country, 95% of people are computer illiterate. Your tools are too complicated for them.
19:00:35 DataHoarder: and so they will too complicated when thy get rekt by ai hallucinations that damages them permanently
19:01:22 DataHoarder: More nodes in a way that has them damage the network or end up exploitable is not better. And there are already non-AI options
19:04:07 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: @xlowt:matrix.org: ./monerod isnt complicated
19:05:14 DataHoarder: The option is not AI or none at all. You may even get resources provided if you have a plan to implement something properly
19:06:07 DataHoarder: The issue at hand here is just throwing AI at it and expecting something out of it (you are making more from less, not less from more, as a general rule, you want stuff like this to distill, or not generate novel things)
19:07:21 DataHoarder: It seems not even you understands this thing, so it's not about end users, it's approaching them with complete ignorance and just acting as a glorified messenger between whatever AI and this irc
19:07:53 DataHoarder: To the point where you can't review what the AI has generated, and it's not even code, just cmdline arguments
19:09:23 plowsof:matrix.org: https://github.com/kerlannXmr/EasyMonerod/issues/6 -> installs vim for the noobs? 😆
19:12:33 321bob321: How do you know the code is correct if you rely on ai ?
19:20:27 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: You dont
19:20:44 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: You just release it and claim that it's correct and safe
19:21:00 plowsof:matrix.org: donation address, send it
19:21:24 plowsof:matrix.org: now we can make the "free qr code generator v5"
19:21:52 321bob321: Is the donate address real ?
19:22:16 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: which one
19:22:34 ofrnxmr:xmr.mx: Theres a kuno as well, so that one must be real